Scorp would never beat Raziel, Raziel is just as immortal as kain, only diffrence is Raziel can go into a timeless realm to regenrate on will and not be harmed by any outside force, and then go back into the material realm, and one Reaver slash would destroy scorp or drain his sepctre body into the reaver, hell, Raziel opens his Cowl.......all spectres in MK verse are Raziels
Right, I appreciate the humour going on here, I really do, but I'm not seeing any valid arguments for Kain winning this. CotEG Scorpion is arguably the most powerful fighter in the entire MK series (given how easily he was able to defeat Onaga who was powered by Shinnok's amulet and the six Kamidogu at the time), and when you have characters who aren't even top tier such as Noob Saibot being able to summon black holes, and characters like Taven who can freeze time and move at the speed of light, Scorpion's position among the fighters speaks volumes.
Originally posted by BaneLoverYou didn't say anything about Kain in that post. Only how bad-ass Scorp is.
Right, I appreciate the humour going on here, I really do, but I'm not seeing any valid arguments for Kain winning this. CotEG Scorpion is arguably the most powerful fighter in the entire MK series (given how easily he was able to defeat Onaga who was powered by Shinnok's amulet and the six Kamidogu at the time), and when you have characters who aren't even top tier such as Noob Saibot being able to summon black holes, and characters like Taven who can freeze time and move at the speed of light, Scorpion's position among the fighters speaks volumes.
Furion is actually presenting a decent argument.
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
You didn't say anything about Kain in that post. Only how bad-ass Scorp is.Furion is actually presenting a decent argument.
I was substantiating Scorpion's relative level of power within his universe, and it's on a level beyond Kain's. There's not much more to say; young Kain hasn't displayed power anywhere near on the level that Scorpion's level of power is on, ergo he logically loses this, and quite badly.
Originally posted by Furion
1. Raziel would be in the Reaver. Wouldn't that mean he is already in the spectral realm. Raziel also has to find a portal to go back into the Material world.
2. Raziel has to weaken beings to suck them in.
what do you mean? he would be in the reaver? i mean the blade he has on his arm, he has his own soul round his arm doesnt he, not the physical blade, also thats a gmaeplay thing, the soul reaver 2 manual says Raziel can go into material and spectoral on a whim
the wraith blade touches the very soul itself, also when in somewhere other than gameplay does he have to weaker? the blade Raziel uses is like a lightsabre,the thing would go through a physical object and besides the point, Scorpion is a spectre, he will be absorbed, he just swallows spectres and souls
Originally posted by BaneLover
Right, I appreciate the humour going on here, I really do, but I'm not seeing any valid arguments for Kain winning this. CotEG Scorpion is arguably the most powerful fighter in the entire MK series (given how easily he was able to defeat Onaga who was powered by Shinnok's amulet and the six Kamidogu at the time), and when you have characters who aren't even top tier such as Noob Saibot being able to summon black holes, and characters like Taven who can freeze time and move at the speed of light, Scorpion's position among the fighters speaks volumes.
thats the problem tho, Scorpion has nothing over kain, show me his feats that would beat kain? just because he beats onaga where other beings have failed is A>B>C logic which ofcourse fails and there is no humour gooing on here
you fail to menstion and forget that kain has a weapon that could effectively one hit Scorpion, he has an invulerable shield, could be wearing Chaos armor and is likely to be doing so considering this is the exact time he would have it, so he could be in an invulerable shell, wearing armor that makes Scoprion damage himself with the same power he hits kain with, instead of kain feeling anything...scorpion would be crushed
1. srry didn't get the SR2 manuel since i got a used copy.
2. When Raziel goes spectre, There are those green monsters running around. If Raziel wants to suck them in, he has to beat the Sh*t out of them.
Also a sword in real life could 1 hit someone, Scorp just needs to dodge it and punt the crap out of him. That's what hellfire punch is for.
Originally posted by Furion
1. srry didn't get the SR2 manuel since i got a used copy.
2. When Raziel goes spectre, There are those green monsters running around. If Raziel wants to suck them in, he has to beat the Sh*t out of them.
Also a sword in real life could 1 hit someone, Scorp just needs to dodge it and punt the crap out of him. That's what hellfire punch is for.
1. nvm then, maybe ill upload it later where it says this
2. yeh their the Slaugh, but i dont rly know what they are, their not spectres, their odd creatures, just like underworld monsters
punting Raziel would be difficult, hes fast and incredibly agile, can go into spectoral at will so he would end up popping up all around Scorpion every time scoprion thinks hes won, Raziel appears out of nowhere, he can also go invisible with the Dark reaver, so he could defeat Scopion randomly from nowhere
Originally posted by Furion
? i've never seen Raziel go invisible.
sorry my mistake, its in Defiance, see
also Kain basically gains all of Raziels power and reavers by the end of the game, either in himself because thats where Raziels reaver ends up, and Raziels power and soul in the soureaver blade itself
so in this battle kain could do things raziel can, like making confusing Earth platforms, going invisible, etc etc, power over the elemetns like fire, that hellfire fist may not be such a good idea
i can tele punch!!, whats Scorpions gonna do? its a noob attack, my cat knows nastier fatalities than Scorpion would dream of
also wheres that Banelover got to, i want him to debate this!! i need to play the prophet and spread the word of kain to all newcomers
hell even the future worship kain, the brotherhood of Nod in Command and conquer praise kain "kain lives in death"
Originally posted by Furion
In real life there are millions of fangirls who worship Sephiroth. And i'm dead F*cking serious. DEAD F*CKING SERIOUS.
What are you talking about Sephiroth has 3 sons. He can make them out of thin air.
pff real life is worse, you can kill real human beings, his fangirls will feel my wrath!, wheras you cant harm fiction, youd have to kill everyone who knows of it, including me and destroy all the writings to destroy it, and youd never defeat me!!!
pff his sons hate him, hes not a good father, kain gives his own soul for his boys
kain winz!!