Originally posted by jinzin
So what? He wasn't crackin jokes when Wolverine whipped out the claws
Oh, he did cracked more jokes. Didnt you saw him laugthing? You probably could see it if you looked at the whole pages instead just the two panels where he does *something*.
Originally posted by jinzin
And once again, Hercules on two seperate occasions has needed a foreign object to negotiate Wolverine's claws and keep from getting turned into meat cubes.
"You cant use foregein weapons"
(but he used the table to make the other man trip)
"that doesnt count, arsehole".
Of course, of course.
Originally posted by jinzin
He needed Captain America's shield.... Give him an indesctructible shield and the odds obviously change.
Dont have Logan sneak on him or bring backup. How about it?
Not that it actually helped him,in the end.
Originally posted by jinzin
For one, Wendigo never fought Hulk and Wolverine at the same time "doing good", as soon as both characters joined up, Wendigo was in a one sided curbstomp.
He was certainly doing better than the time the other mudball lost against Wolverine alone, wouldnt you think?
This isent rocket science, kid. I mean, damn.
Originally posted by jinzin
Second, the Wendigo in question WAS having trouble with Wolverine alone. He was staggering back, weakening, not landing blows, he was losing. So your logic here is flawed as well as your recollection of the events that tooks place.
I find it weird that you say he "was losing" when after the three panels where Wolverine spends the time cutting him, he was still figthing the Hulk.
Originally posted by jinzin
Evidenced by what?
Prove it.
Use your brains and compare both showings. How hard is it?
Originally posted by jinzin
See? You want to equate me to a child, yet you can't even follow simple trains of thought. I'm not refering to the Mauvais/Wendigo-Hybrid. I didn't bring the hybrid up, and have in fact clarified that I wasn't reffering to the hybrid... So why do you bring him up? To ignore the fact that Wolverine WAS outclassing a Wendigo who was a threat to a Doc Strange level villain.
I brougth the hybrid to the obvious comparations about the different Wendigo. That every Wendigo is different. Because of the host. Its not a depowerment issue. Wich is what you keep bringing up:
"oh, your talking about him being depowered!!"
No, im not. You dont know a background of a character, dont discuss it.
Originally posted by jinzin
Based on what proof aside from losing to Wolverine?
He in two different ocassions to Wolverine and Snowbird alone. The others didnt. Tell, do you regard the same Wendigo who got killed by Saber with the same level as the ones who always fougth Hulk together with someone else?
I keep telling this isent rocket science, and you dont really need a university degree to understand it. But you are made of fail.
Originally posted by jinzin
Do I REALLY need to start bringing every example of Wolverine taking out top tier level menaces? The man put down Kierrok by himself in 4 panels in his 9th appearance. Kierrok owned the whole X-Men and 2 shotted Colossus.
Colossus isent top tier. And unless those two teams had the likes of Phoenix or Juggernaut and have them being beaten head on, that doesnt make Wolverine a top tier teamwrecker, either.
Originally posted by jinzin
Wolverine one shotted Arkon.
Arkon isent a physical top tier. Just like Logan what makes him dangerous is the weapons he sports.
Nullify that, and he goes down the way he consistantly has.
Originally posted by jinzin
And, again, Hulk himself has had trouble with Wolverine.. Your logic is flawed.
Having troubles with someone doesnt translate into beating them. Wich is what you sport. You cleary think he can take a majority over Hercules, despite being humiliated twice against one off panel showing. I think you would think the same about Wolverine and Hulk, wouldnt you?
Despite the fact he never did to Green Hulk what he only accomplished with Gray. And the guy still got up.
Originally posted by jinzin
Wendigo is always portrayed as a brick level character and nothing less, including the monkey sized one in Fanfare. Even his handbook entries give him brick level strength with no mention of a clearly changing consistency. Wendigo from Uncanny was portrayed as a brick level as well.
"Brick" is a defination that only refers to someone who mainly relies in strength. Handbook piece? Its for my toilet.
His visual appearance? Why do you bring that up when its obvious that i am talking about the differences in power showings?
Originally posted by jinzin
You think they weren't treating Wendigo like he was a class 100?
Whatever initial intention they may had, i think the actual resume speaks for himself. He may scare away people like a huge threat such as Hulk, but when it comes down to it, what he did simply isent top tier material.
This isent a unique example in comic books. "Look, Apocalypse is going to return migthier than ever"
"Oh, he lost to Colossus. Oh well, maybe he wasent that migthy this time".
Originally posted by jinzin
Funny how even though you think that's the "best he can do" being off panel that he's taken down Namor on panel or held his own every time they've fought. But like I said before.. whatever it takes to help you rationalize your favorite character losing. 😉
I keep saying im ok with it, you keep bring up i need to rationalize something. Someone is projecting insecurity, here.
Clameront cleary gave a big deal of though about it. The off panel win is an amazing description on how someone like *bone claw* Wolverine can take down Hercules. And what we saw was..what? Its like the writer had no clue at all. On a mini that had the most popular characters go ahead, despite the power difference, like Natasha against WonderMan. What is there to rationalize? Context speaks for itself.
Say, since you take off panels contests in great estimation, i bet you take the ones involving Wolverine as a big deal, dont you?
