if its true Ryu is faster, or near Sephiroths speed, even if its a little under, considering Ryus abilities i think he has a good chance of taking a good few battles, maybe even a slight 6/10 majority, he has a lot of powers, most of which i probably dont know but his clones you said about, DDB which is supposedly powerful should be more than enough
Originally posted by Burning thought
but anyway i dont see how this matters, i think a heartless is immune to a none keyblade wielder? so its prob best hes not a heartless for Ryu sake but maybe thats not true, either way we know KH sephiroths attacks and imo, in comparison Ryu can get a good shot at beating him
Heartless angel was in FF7, put the team to 1hp, team isnt keyblade weilders, heartless angel in KH is capable of killing sora in the first second of the fight, if it works against everyone in FF7, and works against everyone in KH, i dont see how Ninja Gaiden would be any different
KH Sephiroth wins in both speed, power and range, and has more deadly magic.
The whole thing about SHA depleting health and mana to 1 is its gameplay description, as much as a sword swipe taking (insert amount of HP here) away from ones life bar.
I'm positive the canon description of SHA is taking life away (it happens instantly, but a few seconds after the spell is casted).
That probably would work here if Hayabusa was fatigued like hell later on in the battle. He has superspeed + teleportation to counter with if he is not fatigued.
Though nothing stops Sephiroth from simply snapping his neck the same way he collapsed Shinra Tower.
There I go again talking about FF7 Sephiroth.
One of FF7 Sephiroth's many abilities (telekinesis) has not been demonstrated by KH Sephiroth, so that's not an option of winning in this case.
If KH Sephiroth uses SHA while either raining meteors or casting pillars of flame (that surround him) he would win (that's if he can do both at the same time which I believe he can).
That's nothing more than my honest opinion.
Originally posted by EvilAngel
This thread has gone to hell.Every post your either downplaying or overhyping Sephiroth even more 😬
I'm not the one overhyping Sephiroth, its Tetsuya who is hyping up Sephiroth, all his statements, and his 'Never make Sephiroth try' and 'Make Sephiroth only lose when hes toying around' and putting Sephiroth as a bonus boss in KH and make him 5x harder then the other bosses, have you seen the Final Fantasy Dissidia trailer? Watch the trailer and tell me hes not hyping up Sephiroth even more, even Trance Kuja was just a regular enemy fighting zidane in there. I bet if you ask Tetsuya any of his characters vs Sephiroth, he will say Sephiroth will win.
Which is why it's best to use showings in cinematics, etc. to formulate our opinions...because I just don't see basing our opinions on what creators "would say" as fun...but so be it.
I'm sure Itagaki would say Hayabusa would school this long white haired punk without even a weapon, but I would just laugh at him. 😬
But its still facts, even though we havent seen Sephiroth use all of his powers etc, he still has them, we just havent seen him at 100% before, but if the creators say that Sephiroth is above all in FF7, then that means he is above all.
If Itadaki created Sephiroth and Ryu, and says Ryu is stronger, then that would be fact.. however i dont see Ryu even beating Chaos Vince, let alone Sephiroth
Originally posted by Burning thought
is this the one?in this one he is going quick, ime not sure about Ryu, Csdabest seems to strongly belive Ryu is so perhaps next time is on, he can show us a video of it, but that speed isnt incredible, its fast but i can "imagine" Ryu is capable of great speed if not equel perhaps not too far off that speed, what people dont usually take into account is that just because someone is faster doesnt mean they can speed blitz of get the upper hand every time, if Ryu is even half that speed he can still bring a lot of powers to bear and he also has teleportation as well as tonnes of other powers, what about the invulerable clones, those AND ryu combined with the Dark Dragon blade has some good chances imo
You have both so yes, that 'one' lol 😛
I can imagine me with a wad of cash *closes eyes... peeks* but that doesn't make mine real.
Proof is all i ask, not a trying task.
Originally posted by Terryc250
I'm not the one overhyping Sephiroth, its Tetsuya who is hyping up Sephiroth,5x harder then the other bosses,
Maybe you aren't, but comnig up with numbers like that is what makes me think otherwise
Originally posted by Terryc250
lol i didnt mean it literally, i meant just making him a bonus boss and much more harder then the other bosses
Don't be so specific, just say, several times, or multipule or whatever. If you specify, peopel might be lead to believe it's a proven fact.
Always put IMO if it's somethings that an opinio,n a boss being harder maybe a style of play. Like people tell me Xaldin is the hardet boss, when i actually struggled with demyx and his water clones more.