Originally posted by Wild Shadow
can you explain the clone comment pls? 😮
Sure, the last ongoing series arc had Venom lose a portion of his tongue to which a clone was created, the clone escaped and both portions of it began to spontaneously develop strange powers at least by all appearances. One portion eventually rebonded with brock during the last hunger storyline, the other half began to become self sustaining like most symbiotes, only using hosts for food. , Venom met up with and fought the clone and by the end of the arc both portions of the symbiote united together venom declaring he had "become so much more!"
the next time we saw the symbiote he was completely resistant to fire attacks, was supposedly as strong as thing, had become much more independent from it's hosts, and grew in strength and size proportionate to the hosts anger.
Originally posted by jinzinI don't see Carnage being slashed in the throat as killing him. Forgive my disbelief.
Coooommon! You don't need to see somone take a bullet to the throat to entertain the notion it's gonna ruin their day. That's just..... pft, I dunno even know what to say really. Okay, you want to ignore evidence, I can't stop you.And like everytime sonics have been used on symbiotes in combat they reform as soon as the sonics are through, assuming they're not taxed already.
They usually writhe in pain for a while.
Originally posted by jinzinI'm willing to change my mind if you show me examples. Because I have the distinct impression that eviscerating them doesn't do much. Example, Carnage raking his claws on a helpless Eddie Brock roasting over fire in Maximum Carnage. The symbiote (which was greatly weakened) wasn't even completely covering him, and Brock wasn't bleeding like a pig.
they DON'T stand up to evisceration very well at all really.. again, not sure what to say here lol.that's how he rolls...
in Max, venom was in much worse shape than carnage and Spidey had to save him.
Trial, same deal.
Unleashed, same deal.
That's called we're both missing something from the plot...
None of that changes my impression that Carnage is roughly Venom's equal. Although his vampiric touch does give him another advantage nobody's yet accounted for.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I don't see Carnage being slashed in the throat as killing him. Forgive my disbelief.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
They usually writhe in pain for a while. I'm willing to change my mind if you show me examples. Because I have the distinct impression that eviscerating them doesn't do much. Example, Carnage raking his claws on a helpless Eddie Brock roasting over fire in Maximum Carnage. The symbiote (which was greatly weakened) wasn't even completely covering him, and Brock wasn't bleeding like a pig.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
That's called we're both missing something from the plot.None of that changes my impression that Carnage is roughly Venom's equal. Although his vampiric touch does give him another advantage.
I don't recall there being any specialied reasoning behind it, though i may be wrong, we should ask Sam.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Although his vampiric touch does give him another advantage nobody's yet accounted for.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master😄
On the Flash thing, Flash shouldn't be tagged by anybody human speed without a plot device, no matter how many times it happens it is still garbage.Carnage's symbiote is vampiric also, seems like that would negate Creed's healing or at least put him in a disadvantage in h2h.
Originally posted by jinzinAbsurd. Carnage and Venom would lose via claws slashing their throat? Want to explain exactly how Sabretooth only manages a stalemate again?
exactly, he'd be ot of the fight.comics code much?
Meh too hard to tell how that would have effected Venom in a fight, like I said he took a gutfull of claw and got up a couple panels later. Just kinda goes along with what I'm saying, he's able to tank most damage, but just like Sabes he can get taxed, and the more vital the blow the easier it is to do that.I don't recall there being any specialied reasoning behind it, though i may be wrong, we should ask Sam.
Comics Code permits the showing of blood. Which it did in Maximum Carnage. Although I'll admit that trying to explain away that feat of the symbiotes' malleable durability and healing via the Comics Code was amusing.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Absurd. Carnage and Venom would lose via claws slashing their throat? Want to explain exactly how Sabretooth only manages a stalemate again?Comics Code permits the showing of blood. Which it did in Maximum Carnage. Although I'll admit that trying to explain away that feat of the symbiotes' malleable durability and healing via the Comics Code was amusing.
pretty sure I already discussed this with you, not sure if clarifying it a second time is gonna help.
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If you think Cletus can stand up to having vitals torn from his body or severed etc.. that's your perogative.. but this uber healing factor you think he's supposed to have certainly didn't do much for helping him when he was ripped in half.
There was practically no symbiote covering his torso, they showed a few drips of blood and it STILL wasn't covering his torso after the slash.... you think that had to do with Eddie Brock and not CCA.... your perogative I guess... all I can do is shake my head.. logically if Carnage was really trying to gut Brock, there would have been intestines on the floor.. but going by the plot Carnage wanted him to suffer as long as possible, you expect massive amounts of damage given that premise? Suspect to say the least.
Originally posted by jinzinHe's used it on victims definitely, which shows he can do it. I'd have to hunt for other instances.
When has he done this? At most I've seen him "feed" on people while using his symbiote for nightmares wrapping them in tendrils and using a concious effort to helpless norms.I've never EVER seen him do this in a fight.. 😕
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
also cassidy raking his claws to torture brock doesnt mean brock healed from it simply that cassidy was justly lightly and not deeply cutting him... come on now... sabe.. blood scream and logan have all done that to ppl but we dont claim the other person is invulnerable or has a super HF
lol, it's also very suspect because even if Onedumb wants to ignore the obvious reasoing in response, there's the issue that Carnage scratches Brock on the right side of his body but we're only treated to seeing the left side of his body. 😬
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
On the Flash thing, Flash shouldn't be tagged by anybody human speed without a plot device, no matter how many times it happens it is still garbage.Carnage's symbiote is vampiric also, seems like that would negate Creed's healing or at least put him in a disadvantage in h2h.
UUUMMM 😕 , its pretty obvious Flash can go light speed but why did he fight amazo at mach one? The answer is pretty obvious if you ask me and thats the reason why he open himself up to be attacked and hit.
Dunno about Carnage but Venom can definitely take claws through his throat chest heart etc and not give a crap. Happened many times. Its been suggested that his bonding with the symbiote was so great it wasn't just a man covered with it but more like merged into one being. Cutting him wont do anything, unless it's a sonicknife Scream had to use to kill other symbiotes.
Originally posted by SamZEDYea, I always thought Carnage was like that too.
Dunno about Carnage but Venom can definitely take claws through his throat chest heart etc and not give a crap. Happened many times. Its been suggested that his bonding with the symbiote was so great it wasn't just a man covered with it but more like merged into one being. Cutting him wont do anything, unless it's a sonicknife Scream had to use to kill other symbiotes.