Originally posted by AlfheimThe way it was worded previous edit, made it seem like Cap>Thor...
No Cap cant crack celestial armour but the rules state that if somebody does something enough times then its not PIS. It simply means that Cap can do some things that Thor canbut through different methods.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
No I get it, Black Panther has beaten Mephisto for goodness sake, if people read his series they would know he does crazy things as well.
How many times has BP beaten Mephisto? Arent you listening?????? nCap has been able to stun and KO people like that for 100s of years so its not PIS.
Hell Cap put the Executioner flat on his back with one shield throw. Is that PIS as well. You know Executioner is tougher than most Asagardians because of his Giant blood????
So what every time its PIS now????
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
The way it was worded previous edit, made it seem like Cap>Thor...
I dont know what to say I already explained that "stuff" to you.
On panel evidence and the rules > what you think.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Punching 100 tonners down doesn't equate into KO'ing the Hulk. 😬
Anyway im done here. I already explained. *shrug*
Originally posted by AlfheimWhat exactly are you talking about?
I dont know what to say I already explained that shit to you.On panel evidence and the rules > what you think.
Anyway im done here. I already explained. *shrug*
The last statement was explaining my words, as you edited it after I responded. 🙂
So, you explained how drawing blood, knocking people down, and KO'ing Namor equals KO'ing Hulk?
Apparently as we find out, if you draw blood from Thunderball, it's probable to KO Hulk.
As is knocking people flat on there back.
As we also found out, that because Namor KO'ed Hulk, and Cap KO'ed Namor, it means Cap has a probable chance to KO Hulk. Basically saying that Namor's strength=durability and that of which is comparible to Hulk's strength/durability.
Sweet. Thanks. 🙂
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Off topic, I know... but when exactly did Cap KO Namor underwater?
It would be great if you could answer this last question.
Originally posted by Alfheim
How many times has BP beaten Mephisto? Arent you listening?????? nCap has been able to stun and KO people like that for 100s of years so its not PIS.Hell Cap put the Executioner flat on his back with one shield throw. Is that PIS as well. You know Executioner is tougher than most Asagardians because of his Giant blood????
So what every time its PIS now????
How many times has he made Thunderball bleed? Once. Has Black Panther beaten people far stronger then him...yes, and many times. Like I said if you read his series and history you would know that. So how are you so likely to accept one form of PIS and dismiss the other?
And your missing the point as Black Panther has defeated the Fantastic Four before..alone which included Thing.
Apparently by your standards yes.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
How many times has he made Thunderball bleed? Once.
If hes able to KO Namor underwater its possible to make Thunderball spit blood.
Originally posted by King_MungiHas Black Panther beaten people far stronger then him...yes, and many times. Like I said if you read his series and history you would know that. So how are you so likely to accept one form of PIS and dismiss the other?
And your missing the point as Black Panther has defeated the Fantastic Four before..alone which included Thing.
Apparently by your standards yes.
How many times has he beaten class 100 herald?
Silver Surfer >> Fantastic Four
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Apparently by your standards yes.
So your still arguing with me after ive showed you the rules? Yes if BP has done before then its not PIS. Hell is Mantis Koing Thor PIS?
Originally posted by Alfheim
If hes able to KO Namor underwater its possible to make Thunderball spit blood.
Not when stronger people failed to do so...ie. Thor. 😬
Hell Wrecker alone has one-shooted Hulk
Originally posted by Alfheim
How many times has he beaten class 100 herald?Silver Surfer >> Fantastic Four
Just two times recently, and in the past defeated a skyfather that toys with Silver Surfer 😬
and you missed the point entirely.
Originally posted by Alfheim
So your still arguing with me after ive showed you the rules? Yes if BP has done before then its not PIS. Hell is Mantis Koing Thor PIS?
Which he has done before, and beaten people above SS as well 😬
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Not when stronger people failed to do so...ie. Thor. 😬Hell Wrecker alone has one-shooted Hulk
Sorry dont care. The rules state if it happens enough times under different writers its allowed. Cap has done stuff like that LOADS of times.
Mantis KOing Thor with one-shot PIS.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Just two times recently, and in the past defeated a skyfather that toys with Silver Surfer 😬and you missed the point entirely.
Which he has done before, and beaten people above SS as well 😬
Two times isnt enough for me.....
loads of times >>> two times. How did he beat the skyfather level character? What Mephisto?
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Tell me 🙁
Excuse me. "edit" what? 🤨
Originally posted by Alfheim
Sorry dont care. The rules state if it happens enough times under different writers its allowed. Cap has done stuff like that LOADS of times.Mantis KOing Thor with one-shot PIS.
So he has ko'ed Namor more then once underwater [which if I remember just knocked off the disc off of him], or made Thunderball bleed more then once? 😬
Originally posted by Alfheim
Two times isnt enough for me.....loads of times >>> two times. How did he beat the skyfather level character? What Mephisto?
Apparently once is enough for you with Cap 😬
Yes Mephisto, and yes he is skyfather.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
So he has ko'ed Namor more then once underwater [which if I remember just knocked off the disc off of him], or made Thunderball bleed more then once?Apparently once is enough for you with Cap 😬
No he did not knock the disk off he koed him underwater but briefly. No no no no no no no no no no no.....you dont get it.
1. making thunderball spit blood
2. Koing Namor underwater
3. Knocking Namor flat on his back
4. Stunned Professor Hulk for 1 second (more poxerful than savage hulk)
5. Put Executioneer on his back with one shild throw and serioulsy winded him.
He only Koed namor once underwater but if you add all his showings you can come to the conclusion that he could KO namor underwater because eventhough the situations are different they are similar get it?
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Yes Mephisto, and yes he is skyfather.
What was the circumstance. Cap has "beaten" Nightmare before but there was a reason for it. Futhermore thats nothing compared to Caps record of stunning and Koing bricks....Cap ahs loads of showings.
How did he beat the other herlald level character.
edit: I tell you what though actually I dont have a problem with BP beating a herald level character.....but not with an armbar!! If he used prep thats another matter
Originally posted by AlfheimSo... if we take out #2...
No he did not knock the disk off he koed him underwater but briefly. No no no no no no no no no no no.....you dont get it.1. making thunderball spit blood
2. Koing Namor underwater
3. Knocking Namor flat on his back
4. Stunned Professor Hulk for 1 second
5. Put Executioneer on his back with one shild throw and serioulsy winded him.He only Koed namor once underwater but if you add all his showings you can come to the conclusion that he could KO namor underwater because eventhough the situations are different they are similar get it?
Is this enough to say he could theoretically KO Namor underwater? Really? 😬
Is this enough to back up him KO'ing Namor underwater?
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
So... if we take out #2...
1. making thunderball spit blood
2. Knocking Namor flat on his back
3. Stunned Professor Hulk for 1 second
4. Put Executioneer on his back with one shild throw and serioulsy winded him.Is this enough to say he could theoretically KO Namor underwater? Really? 😬
Is this enough to back up him KO'ing Namor underwater?
What on earth are you talking about, why would I take out 2 for? Look your just wasting my time beat it.
edit: and if its PIS for him to beat a herald with no reason then its PIS for him to beat a skyfather.
If Cap KOs odin its PIS, if he kos a Celestial him Koing Odin doesnt make it not PIS.
Originally posted by AlfheimBecause those feats are supposed to make him look like he could possibly KO Namor.
What on earth are you talking about, why would I take out 2 for? Look your just wasting my time beat it.
And the second line is asking about those feats actually backing up Cap KO'ing Namor since you said:
"He only Koed namor once underwater but if you add all his showings you can come to the conclusion that he could KO namor underwater because eventhough the situations are different they are similar get it?"
So, with the other four showings, we are supposed to come to conclusion of him being able to KO Namor, and if that's not right... the other four are supposed to back up the fact that he could possibly KO Namor underwater because he did it, and he has 'stunned Hulk for a second'.
It doesn't add up in other words.
So why are you responding if I'm wasting your time?
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On another note:
Originally posted by King_MungiPretty funny. Since this logic dictates that all of Superman Prime's feats, since he's been trotting around alternate Earths beating up people are now to be cast into a suspect light since nobody really knows how powerful they were either. Smacks of double standard.
Gladiator is all over the place power-wise and even in 616 has been on a down-ward slope in power 😬. There is no PROOF to say what Exiles Gladiator's power level was at. To say he was at/above/below the level of 616 Gladiator is silly as once again there is no PROOF to say so.
And for goodness sake, Superman Prime is NOT a PC Kyrptonian, nor is he even close to a PC Kyrptonian level. Seen that myth float around too often to stomach it any longer. Superman Prime would get b1tchslapped like a 50 cent whore by a PC Kryptonian.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0It only takes away one feat of his. 😐
Pretty funny. Since this logic dictates that all of Superman Prime's feats, since he's been trotting around alternate Earths beating up people are now to be cast into a suspect light since nobody really knows how powerful they were either. Smacks of double standard.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
...On another note:
Pretty funny. Since this logic dictates that all of Superman Prime's feats, since he's been trotting around alternate Earths beating up people are now to be cast into a suspect light since nobody really knows how powerful they were either. Smacks of double standard.And for goodness sake, Superman Prime is NOT a PC Kyrptonian, nor is he even close to a PC Kyrptonian level. Seen that myth float around too often to stomach it any longer. Superman Prime would get b1tchslapped like a 50 cent whore by a PC Kryptonian.
you said it. Plus Gladiator was powerful enough to cause white out effect when he threw that punch at Surfer (Exiles). Something tells me that anyone below Thor would have been severly hurt, and thats a lot of characters. Plus the wreckage of the planet was obviously done by him (Surfer). It looked like earth as well when you look closer at the pics because if i'm not mistaken there is wreckage of a building floating in space. This guy had to be as powerful as he seemed. The destruction is evident on panel.