Silver Surfer (Exiles) vs Superman Prime

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist

Also, 616 Surfer beat someone with the IG.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist

Surfer destroyed Rune's hand with ease... with the IG

Is it logical to assume it's the same, and tuned to the same level of 616's?

Rune was struggling against the Soul Gem for control over the IG:

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But the plot thickens ...

in another issue,

the story is continued and delivers a "sub-plot" that was unknown to me:

Evidently, the Silver Surfer was given moral support by the LT,
and SS managed to merged with a part of Deathurge:

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SS partially merged with Deathurge after receiving a confidence boost from LT,

defeats Rune ... who barely had control of the IG:

"He seems to be struggling with the Soul Gem ... I must act now"

Proceed yall.

Originally posted by Mr Master
True, but the whole story isn't that simple B,
I don't want onlookers getting confused about the IG. 🙂
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Rune was struggling against the Soul Gem for control over the IG:

........................................................................................

But the plot thickens ...

in another issue,

the story is continued and delivers a "sub-plot" that was unknown to me:

Evidently, the Silver Surfer was given moral support by the LT,
and SS managed to merged with a part of Deathurge:

........................................................................................

SS partially merged with Deathurge after receiving a confidence boost from LT,

defeats Rune ... who barely had control of the IG:

"[B]He seems to be struggling with the Soul Gem ... I must act now"

Proceed yall. [/B]

Anyway, does that mean that Surfer has also had a permanent upgrade by Deathurge? Therefore making the upgrade rather pointless in pointing out?

Also, he still has unlimited power. 😬

Originally posted by Alfheim
PIS is contingent with consistency. So looking at Caps showings its possible but not probable. How many times has BP but class 100s heralds in an armbar? None...PIS.

Anyway, it's obvious you don't know the reason for that statement... and I don't feel like explaining it to you.
Evil Ash?

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
So, it's possible for Cap to KO Hulk? What?

Yes its posible if he can

KO Namor underwater
Knock Namor flat on his back out of water
Make Thunderball spit blood with one punch and TKO him
Stun Professor Hulk (a more powerful version of the hulk) with a pressure point for 1 second

Then yes its possible but it probably wont happen. Its not PIS if it does though

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist

Anyway, it's obvious you don't know the reason for that statement... and I don't feel like explaining it to you.
Evil Ash?

Possibly or your just being a troll again...or you could explain.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Yes its posible if he can

KO Namor underwater
Knock Namor flat on his back out of water
Make Thunderball spit blood with one punch and TKO him
Stun Professor Hulk (a more powerful version of the hulk) with a pressure point for 1 second

Then yes its possible but it probably wont happen. Its not PIS if it does though

Originally posted by Alfheim
Possibly or your just being a troll again.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
All of less are less durable than Hulk, and stunning someone with a pressure point is irrelevant, when he used raw strength to KO Hulk (although he gave SM credit, but really... 😬).

Some of them have comparable durability eg Thunderball has taken shots from Thors hammer.

Namor underwater has Koed Hulk before so his durability is comparable.

I know he used raw strength. Im simply saying thats its not PIS for him to do it but yes with raw strength is PIS.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist

I'd retort... but quite frankly, I'd rather see you banned for all your unbacked statements. And one report at a time helps me achieve this goal. 🙂

👆 Typical brilliant response.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
[B]Pfft... like I'd continue reading that shit after the first issue...

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Anyway, does that mean that Surfer has also had a permanent upgrade by Deathurge?

But see, that's why it's good to read even issues we may not value so,
I've found incredible info in many obscure titles.

Just sayin.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Therefore making the upgrade rather pointless in pointing out?

Perhaps when LT apeared and spoke to him while SS was dying at the hands of Deathurge,
SS was amped by LT, it's a stretch but meh,
imo, Rune was unable to wield the IG due to the struggle with the Gems,
thus making him vulnerable and offensively weak.

It's not like it was a battle either, SS won in Two moves,
eliminating Rune's chances of wielding even that fraction properly.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Also, he still has unlimited power.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Some of them have comparable durability eg Thunderball has taken shots from Thors hammer.

Now your comparing Cap punches capable of doing the same damage as Thor's hammer?

Originally posted by Alfheim
Some of them have comparable durability eg Thunderball has taken shots from Thors hammer.

Namor underwater has Koed Hulk before so his durability is comparable.

I know he used raw strength. Im simply saying thats its not PIS for him to do it but yes with raw strength is PIS.

Strength=durability?

So, it's not pis, but it is pis?

Originally posted by Alfheim
👆 Typical brilliant response.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Now your comparing Cap punches capable of doing the same damage as Thor's hammer?

No im not . 😐 What do you mean by "now"? 😒:

Originally posted by Alfheim
No im not . 😐

Actually you did, as it's rare for Thor even from a pissed off Thor make the Crew members spit out blood from one shot.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Actually you did, as it's rare for Thor even from a pissed off Thor make the Crew members spit out blood from one shot.

So I stated that Cap used brute force to TKO thunderball?

Originally posted by Alfheim
So I stated that Cap used brute force to TKO thunderball?

No you made mention of with one hit make Thunderball spit blood, where even Thor can't really claim that 😬

Originally posted by King_Mungi
No you made mention of with one hit make Thunderball spit blood, where even Thor can't really claim that 😬

and I dont think Thor has decked Namor with one punch either.....and? The fact is Cap has showed time and time again he can do stuff like that, that doesnt however mean that Cap can crack Celestial armour with one punch.

Originally posted by Mr Master
I read everything that's canon to the cosmics. 🙂

Hmm, that's good question, since it's canon, I'd say yes.

But see, that's why it's good to read even issues we may not value so,
I've found incredible info in many obscure titles.

Just sayin.

I know, but the first story pretty much turned me away from any future titles.

Originally posted by Mr Master
I believe it made a huge difference in confronting Rune,
Rune himself said he only had a fraction,
and even that fraction was being hampered by the Gems.

Perhaps when LT apeared and spoke to him while SS was dying at the hands of Deathurge,
SS was amped by LT, it's a stretch but meh,
imo, Rune was unable to wield the IG due to the struggle with the Gems,
thus making him vulnerable and offensively weak.

It's not like it was a battle either, SS won in Two moves,
eliminating Rune's chances of wielding even that fraction properly.

He was tearing rifts in the fabric of space. IMO it was just a terrible written story... in fact, Surfer basically said that the IG can't stand up to his power cosmic. 😐

Even a 'fraction' of the IG is still high. Plus, he was only demonstrating a fraction of his power on that attack... it doesn't mean he depowered himself.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Not under those conditions, same fate awaited Nemesis.

Originally posted by Alfheim
and I dont think Thor has decked Namor with one punch either.

So basically you make the call on what's PIS and what's not then?

Originally posted by Alfheim
and I dont think Thor has decked Namor with one punch either.

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Also, Thor has KO'ed Namor with a punch before.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
So basically you make the call on what's PIS and what's not then?

Read and comperhend

Originally posted by Alfheim
PIS is contingent with consistency. So looking at Caps showings its possible but not probable. How many times has BP but class 100s heralds in an armbar? None...PIS.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Yes its posible if he can

KO Namor underwater
Knock Namor flat on his back out of water
Make Thunderball spit blood with one punch and TKO him
Stun Professor Hulk (a more powerful version of the hulk) with a pressure point for 1 second

Then yes its possible but it probably wont happen. Its not PIS if it does though

Originally posted by Alfheim
Its because of this statment in SvFL:

Spiderman defeating a herald of Galactus is a case of the SvFL exemption; however, Batman being able to sneak up on Superman is not because he has done so frequently under different writers.

Eventhough this statement is not found under PIS, could it not be argued that the bolded statement can apply to PIS since both concepts are similar?

In other words if something happens enough times its not SvFl or PIS.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
So... Cap>Thor?

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Also, Thor has KO'ed Namor with a punch before.

No Cap cant crack celestial armour but the rules state that if somebody does something enough times then its not PIS. It simply means that Cap can do some things that Thor canbut through different methods.

No I get it, Black Panther has beaten Mephisto for goodness sake, if people read his series they would know he does crazy things as well.