no he doesnt..thats gameplay
ok, i know what comes next
noes!! you cant proves it!!!!11211211
Originally posted by MadMel
no he doesnt..thats gameplay
ok, i know what comes nextoh but i can 😈
in the boss fight raz vs kain in defiance, kain and raz can use their reavers spells as much as the a.i. allows them to without recharging...in fact, when i was raz and fighting kain, he used his balance spell on me 3 times in a row..
and if its the soul reaver, he can use the aspects with even less effort..
Umm actually Raziel never spams it over and over again, nor does he do it without first charging it by hitting kain, he never does it in a row, they probably let the AI use it more often with a less charge bar just to add difficulty.
YouTube video
The reaver itself is supposed to be charged before it unleashes its power, its not just "gameplay" its how the reaver works.
the blood reaver, not the soul reaver 😬
the blood reaver relied on the blood of enemies, but since raziel is in their permanently its like converting the reaver from battery compatible to power socket compatible
not to mention it becomes a 1 hit ownage weapon..
and yea, i actually did get whacked 3 times in a row by kain's balance blast..not attacking, recharge or even tk in between..
Originally posted by Terryc250
LOL too bad that was kain 10,000 years earlier, not only that but "This spell created a homing projectile that temporarily froze any enemy it hit. " also that projectile doesnt have the hopes of hitting Chaos, and even if Chaos lets it hit him he'll temporarily frozen in the air, and wtf is Kain gonna do? Try to climb a tree to reach him? Too bad the time reaver has to be charged to be active, stop making up BS mmk?Lol so ur excuse for kain being so weak is that "kain is just pacing himself" ? HAHA can u give me proof he was?
too bad? whys that, your bashing kain because hes old? because hes seen enough years to make Sephiroth and Cloud Children in comprison?, temporaly frozen in the air? ever heard of teleport and floating for kain? which is what? basically flight and hell slash the guy a couple of times and hes a gonner ,or use the blood power i mentsioned earlier and drain him dry, hell come out of the time and drop dead.....and no it doesnt need to be charged, stop speaking BS the whole debate mmk?
yeh, what do you mean proof? you cant prove that if you could play as sephiroth hell have the Jenova abilities.....your making it up as you go along, and as EvilAngel said in the other thread, your overhyping sephiroth as you go along...more and more
Originally posted by Terryc250
Umm actually Raziel never spams it over and over again, nor does he do it without first charging it by hitting kain, he never does it in a row, they probably let the AI use it more often with a less charge bar just to add difficulty.
YouTube videoThe reaver itself is supposed to be charged before it unleashes its power, its not just "gameplay" its how the reaver works.
Key words, add difficulty.....thats what the whole thing about charging the reaver is, and Madmel just pwned you, hes 100% correct, the AI can use reaver spells many times in a row, luckily they dont use any of the stronger ones several times otherwise the player would be crushed ,but its all gameplay, this charging business...you failed lol
Originally posted by Terryc250
How do you know that the Soul Reaver with Raziel in it even is capable of adding other emblems in it to make a Time Soul Reaver? I thought after Raziel is in the Reaver, thats its final form, the Soul Reaver and cant add anything else to it.
Originally posted by Terryc250
But they only work with the reaver, not when Raziel is in it, Raziel is basically like an emblem, and you cant use 2 emblems at once.
now great king of assumptions you think Raziel is an Emblem? wtf, the sword has all its emblems, the only diffrence Raziel is in the blade...what assumption are you going by now? the Blade has all its Emblems, and Raziel inside....but you assume kain cannot use the emblems on his sword all of a sudden why exactley?........lawls at you, your argument is flailing about like a drunk madmen, you better bring him inside and set him to sleep or youll end up down a ditch
ime sorry to break it to you, actually ime not...your beloved FF characters get crushed....Kain clears
http://www.dark-chronicle.co.uk/def/reaverkain.php
theres the list, The Soul Reaver is just another one of them, it is no different. Unless u can prove to me u can combine the time and soul reaver, to make it a non charge'able reaver.
Can you prove to me that outside of gameplay reaver is charged all the time? If not, then you fail.
even so, he can still use the time spell, swicth to the 1 hit pwnage emblem and kick serious ass each time
Originally posted by Terryc250
http://www.dark-chronicle.co.uk/def/reaverkain.phptheres the list, The Soul Reaver is just another one of them, it is no different. Unless u can prove to me u can combine the time and soul reaver, to make it a non charge'able reaver.
Can you prove to me that outside of gameplay reaver is charged all the time? If not, then you fail.
Wont be hitting Chaos anytime soon, Chaos will smash Kain before he can even blink, and so will Omega.
lol at your fanboyism
prove what that Raziel is not an emblem...lol...
The soul reaver is the final blade when its got Raziel in it, the diffrent emblems are still in the blade, their not two diffrent reavers its the same reaver with time emblem in it, its not like kain has several swords, theres only two types the reaver has been, Blood and soul
what is there to prove? the only thing you have that you think disproves it, is a gameplay element, which is nothing but gameplay madmel has said whe the AI uses it, you fail....
lawls at him not hitting Chaos or Omega....hes not "that" fast...he doesnt move lightspeed or any uber speed you think he may go, thats what a speed blitz is, when someone moves the speed of a normal man VS a guy who lightspeeds but no, Vincent or Omega are not that fast, and they could never blitz kain, he would with a handmovement have them in the air in TK....Omega is a slow sword fighter as well
Except if Kain uses any blood sucking spell, Seph will possess Kain. I don't want to hear any BS about his uber-will power or you can't control his mind.
Except the time spell only works for 2.5 seconds then it goes back to normal, not that it would hit them anyway.
WTF, you can't TK them if you can't see them. Chaos is so fast that his after image stood there for like 6-7 sec. WTF are you talking about.
Originally posted by Furion
Except if Kain uses any blood sucking spell, Seph will possess Kain. I don't want to hear any BS about his uber-will power or you can't control his mind.
Except the time spell only works for 2.5 seconds then it goes back to normal, not that it would hit them anyway.
WTF, you can't TK them if you can't see them. Chaos is so fast that his after image stood there for like 6-7 sec. WTF are you talking about.
i meant hes going to use blood suck on Weiss and the other, he wont need it for Sephiroth, and what do u mean BS? hes got uber will power and his mind cant be controlled period.....you cant control his mind...infact kain is undead, he would prob send his soul into the other sephiroth as his old body is consumed with a spirit wrack and take the controls himself of the other sephiroth but regardless does not matter
does not last for 2.5 seconds..lasts a bit longer than that, lasts abouy 5 seconds if i remember, and please show me the speed the projectile goes? got a pic or vid from your "it will never hit them" and as i said before, doesnt matter, Kain will Tk them
they dont go invisible silly lol, their just moving fast, even if kain just sees their blur, and they will have to stop to attack him sooner or later, as ive seen from weiss he will try and impale kain like he does to vincent and his melee skills are slow, Kain is going to eventually TK them, either when vincent stops to fire, or when Weiss tries to sword battle kain, either way theyll get devastated, and thats without kain using the time reaver, they wont get close to him without being slowed to a crawl and kain would just devestate them, or use a dimensional movement
Originally posted by Burning thought
i meant hes going to use blood suck on Weiss and the other, he wont need it for Sephiroth, and what do u mean BS? hes got uber will power and his mind cant be controlled period.....you cant control his mind...infact kain is undead, he would prob send his soul into the other sephiroth as his old body is consumed with a spirit wrack and take the controls himself of the other sephiroth but regardless does not matterdoes not last for 2.5 seconds..lasts a bit longer than that, lasts abouy 5 seconds if i remember, and please show me the speed the projectile goes? got a pic or vid from your "it will never hit them" and as i said before, doesnt matter, Kain will Tk them
they dont go invisible silly lol, their just moving fast, even if kain just sees their blur, and they will have to stop to attack him sooner or later, as ive seen from weiss he will try and impale kain like he does to vincent and his melee skills are slow, Kain is going to eventually TK them, either when vincent stops to fire, or when Weiss tries to sword battle kain, either way theyll get devastated, and thats without kain using the time reaver, they wont get close to him without being slowed to a crawl and kain would just devestate them, or use a dimensional movement
Originally posted by Furion
Sephiroth managed to not get absorbed into the lifestream when he fell in. Due to his will power alone. Prove Kain can punt Seph's soul which is superior to every soul Kain's punted in LOK.
No I made so it lasts 2.5 sec.
Ever heard of firing while moving.
superior, apprently he doesnt even have a soul, and as ive said before in every other case where someone has asked this he does it the same to every soul, with equel ease, also prove his soul is superior....Sephi is not even a true immortal, hes just made up of alien jenova cells as well, Kain has punted immortal vampire souls that are not even attached to the rules of life and death, whats sephiroth going to do?
oh okie, a rule, so what lasts this long? kain has 2 time attacks, the one that usually lasts a good 5 seconds and completly freezes a single enemy, or his time reaver which effects everything within a good 10-20 metres and slows them to a crawl which lasts usually 10 seconds roughly
has he ever done this? it seems to me Vincent stops every so often to fire, you would have to prove he can fire while moving, considering moving at great speed while fireing would be harder than just moving, like how Weiss is slow when he fights with swords, but is fast when moving in straight lines, weve only seen them move fast in straight lines as well, whos to say they can even move quickly when rotating
Except they're dead and can offer no resistance. Sephiroth's soul is with the lifestream and his "mother" and bunch of crap. I said prove Kain can rip out a soul that's as powerful as Seph's while he's still living.
both.
That would be gameplay. People can fire when they are moving (i.e Smith & Neo fight in the first Matrix) Chaos who is incredibly strong and agile has no problem shooting while moving. Please don't compare swords to guns.
Originally posted by Burning thought
lol at your fanboyismprove what that Raziel is not an emblem...lol...
The soul reaver is the final blade when its got Raziel in it, the diffrent emblems are still in the blade, their not two diffrent reavers its the same reaver with time emblem in it, its not like kain has several swords, theres only two types the reaver has been, Blood and soulwhat is there to prove? the only thing you have that you think disproves it, is a gameplay element, which is nothing but gameplay madmel has said whe the AI uses it, you fail....
lawls at him not hitting Chaos or Omega....hes not "that" fast...he doesnt move lightspeed or any uber speed you think he may go, thats what a speed blitz is, when someone moves the speed of a normal man VS a guy who lightspeeds but no, Vincent or Omega are not that fast, and they could never blitz kain, he would with a handmovement have them in the air in TK....Omega is a slow sword fighter as well
Prove that you can combine an emblem while Raziel is already in the reaver,
Reavers are MEANT to be charged to use its power, it even states in the game, that when the reaver is CHARGED you can use its power
His speed makes him look like Kain is standing still, Kain has never shown even remotely close speed to chaos, or omega weiss, i bet even if time was slowed down, chaos would still be faster, yes he would blitz kain, kain wouldnt even have a chance to make a hand movement before he either gets shredded up by omega weiss, or chaos, anyway to TK, he has to aim it, he wont be catching either one of them blinking around, and also the fact that theres two of them, omega is NOT a slowfighter, they both have reaction time so fast that they had to slow down the video in slowmotion.
Originally posted by Furion
Except they're dead and can offer no resistance. Sephiroth's soul is with the lifestream and his "mother" and bunch of crap. I said prove Kain can rip out a soul that's as powerful as Seph's while he's still living.both.
That would be gameplay. People can fire when they are moving (i.e Smith & Neo fight in the first Matrix) Chaos who is incredibly strong and agile has no problem shooting while moving. Please don't compare swords to guns.
what do you mean they can offer no resistence? their not already dead...who is? a vampire is undead, a demon is not dead in any way shape or form.....you fail....you have to prove to me that Sephiroths soul is powerful
"shrug" in 2.5 seconds kain can win this easily
its not gameplay, you can see it in the video, theres no gameplay in that video, you see the size of the vincents gun and its projectile path? he seems to stop every time he fires it, and comapre guns to sword? wtf, swords can>>>>guns in many situations, you think the reaver is less powerful than a pistol? bad answer
Originally posted by Terryc250
Prove that you can combine an emblem while Raziel is already in the reaver,Reavers are MEANT to be charged to use its power, it even states in the game, that when the reaver is CHARGED you can use its power
His speed makes him look like Kain is standing still, Kain has never shown even remotely close speed to chaos, or omega weiss, i bet even if time was slowed down, chaos would still be faster, yes he would blitz kain, kain wouldnt even have a chance to make a hand movement before he either gets shredded up by omega weiss, or chaos, anyway to TK, he has to aim it, he wont be catching either one of them blinking around, and also the fact that theres two of them, omega is NOT a slowfighter, they both have reaction time so fast that they had to slow down the video in slowmotion.
its a void point, prove what? theres nothing to prove, your poking at everything thats why you want it proven, theres no reason on earth why you wouldnt be able to use it, its like saying just because i put bread in a diffrent toaster it wont toast because they used to toast in the old one
no it doesnt at all....BS answers here, simply your assumptions, no way will it look like kain is standing still, and no if time was slowed they would be in slow motion....none of them can blitz kain, stop fanw@nking please. Omega indeed is not a swordighter, weiss is useless....he is bad with his two swords, they would both get annhilated, show me either of them fighting while moving fast please and also show me them moving fast in something other than straight lines
1. Funny whenever I see the vampire's getting soul eaten the seem to be dead. In SR2 what are all those things on spears? oh yes, VAMPIRES! WTF, Liu Kang is dead and he can be killed. Zombies are dead but they can be killed. When someone in FF7 dies, their soul is supposed to go to the lifestream. Sephiroth was tossed directly into the lifestream but his willpower and soul were so powerful he avoided getting absorbed.
2. I do recall Vincent shooting things while he was flying without stopping. You fail.