Final Kain Gauntlet

Started by Burning thought10 pages

jokes

Omega is made of pure/normal Lifestream. Chaos is made of Stagnant Lifestream.

Originally posted by Burning thought
here we go, it says quite clearly

[B]"through force of will" [/B]

Can you post one where i can actually read it? Anyway it mustve been retconned then, because in the first few cinematics Raziel says he had to find a portal to get back into the material realm, and he does it throughout the game.

Originally posted by SHM
Omega is made of pure/normal Lifestream. Chaos is made of Stagnant Lifestream.

stagnant? hmm, is that much like Negative or is it something else? hmm peculier

Originally posted by Terryc250
Can you post one where i can actually read it? Anyway it mustve been retconned then, because in the first few cinematics Raziel says he had to find a portal to get back into the material realm, and he does it throughout the game.

he does it throughout all the games, their gameplay elements, how much easier the already easy game would be if kain and raziel didnt have to get checkpoints to come back, they be constantly comng back over and over

Originally posted by Burning thought
stagnant? hmm, is that much like Negative or is it something else? hmm peculier

Negative Lifestream is Lifestream corrupted with Jenova/Sephiroth's essence. It's not something created by the planet.

Stagnant Lifestream on the other hand, it's natural from the planet. We don't know yet what exactly is, but we know that the Stagnant one is black, not green, and much more dangerous than the normal one.
Vincent's father disappeared/disintegrated in seconds, by making contact with it(it was an accident).

Nero of the Tsviets, uses it all the time.

hmm i see, thanks for the info, is all these Vincent and Weiss from dirge of cerberus? or a diffrent game, its graphics seem new and all so that would be my first guess

Originally posted by Furion
Kain has a Normal Soul Reaver with any power cept the power to make allies fight each other. No instant Soul Attacks, the being has to be weakened.Only has 2.5 sec Time Stop
Round 1: Chaos Vincent & Omega Weiss
Round 2: Final Form Sora & Dark Powered Riku
Round 3: Twilight Xemnas & Roxas
Round 4: 2 AC Sephiroths With all materia and Abilities.
Round 5: Raziel With full powered Reaver (Reaver won't suck Raziel into it.)

Kain kicks FF ass ✅

Originally posted by Burning thought
hmm i see, thanks for the info, is all these Vincent and Weiss from dirge of cerberus? or a diffrent game, its graphics seem new and all so that would be my first guess

Chaos Vincent already existed in FFVII, but in DoC he have a new design, and is MUCH stronger than his FFVII version.
But yes, that's all from DoC. The "new" Chaos Vincent, Weiss, the Protomateria, Stagnant Mako, Omega, etc. All introduced in DoC.

wonderful, i may get the game

Originally posted by Burning thought
he does it throughout all the games, their gameplay elements, how much easier the already easy game would be if kain and raziel didnt have to get checkpoints to come back, they be constantly comng back over and over

Things said in cinematics are canon

Originally posted by Terryc250
Things said in cinematics are canon

not if its descirbing a gameplay mechanic its not

gameplay<<<<<Cinematics<<<<Documentation/manuels<<<<Creators word

Recent words by Raziel himself >> Outdated video game manuel

He says something along the lines of "I need to get back to the material realm, i must find a portal in order to do so" that tells you something doesnt it?

by the way, show me a readable scan.

Originally posted by Terryc250
Recent words by Raziel himself in the gameplay >> canon soul reaver 2 game manuel

He says something along the lines of "I need to get back to the material realm, i must find a portal in order to do so" that tells you something doesnt it?

by the way, cant find the magnify function so show me a readable scan.

so w8 a min....your trying to say Raziel got retconnned in a ongoing story that is in diffrent time periods, is the same raziel, created by the same creators and company, has somehow been retconned just because he is explaining a gameplay element in a more recent game? lawls....

okie, erm, well in FF when a character says press the [insert playstation controller button here] to climb a ladder or activate a skill ill take it literally, seems sephiroth has to press some kind of button to use his attacks...the characters say so

maybe ill get a bigger one if i find a boring moment with a few minutes of time tomorrow

wtf r u talking about? What does Raziel having to go through a portal to get into the material realm have anything to do with having to use a playstation controller to control the character? Ur a genius.

So you think Raziel can go on a whim and anytime anywhere can get back into the material realm (even though hes never done it in ANY of the LOK games) because in an outdated manuel it says the words through force of will

Yet in LOK's most recent game, Raziel says himself during a cinematic that he has to find a portal to get back into the material realm?

Originally posted by Burning thought
I wish i was smart enough to realize that a scan at such a miniature scale cannot be magnified with the words 100% clear

Man ur a genius.

Originally posted by Terryc250
wtf r u talking about? What does Raziel having to go through a portal to get into the material realm have anything to do with having to use a playstation controller to control the character? Ur a genius.

you prob missed the point......its to do with gameplay characters explaining gameplay mechanics are not canon

Originally posted by Burning thought
you prob missed the point......its to do with gameplay characters explaining gameplay mechanics are not canon

Theres a difference between a character teaching the player how to play the game like "go up to a ladder and press X", and a character stating that he himself must find a way to get to somewhere, and the way to get there is through a portal, like Raziel saying "I need to find a portal, so that i can get to the material realm"

You can't play as Sephiroth. Fool.

well you do get access to him for a little while in a way, when he fights with you, but the point was a simple one, characters descirbing gameplay is not canon

Hes not "describing" gameplay, theres a difference, its like saying "to get to the other continent, i must aboard the ship", and "To get to the material realm, i must get to the portal", those are totally different from "press X on the ladder to climb" Raziel said that in a cinematic, everything said in cinematics are canon, happens directly out of gameplay, and is canon to the story.