Final Kain Gauntlet

Originally posted by Burning thought
Dimension reaver, he ports through dimensions, spectoral realm is a dimension in Nosgoth, he would go into the realm.....

and even if (its rubbish but hey, ill humour him) Terries little "Soul reaver needs chargingz coz its got bar in gameplay" actually means it needs to be charged, guess how many souls are in the spectoral realms..infnite souls....endless, Kain will have a field trip

Kain cant even go into the spectorial realm.. please show me kain going into the spectorial realm, and yes, he does need to go through a portal to get back into the material realm.. and if hes somehow going to use the dimension reaver to get in the spectorial realm (though u cant even do that) the reaver needs to be charged before he can use it.

Originally posted by Terryc250
i dont know anything about LOK but Kain cant even go into the spectorial realm even tho its a dimension and he has the dimension reaver that can port through dimensons..hmm but anyway he cant go because it breaks my argument to pieces.. please show me kain going into the spectorial realm, and yes, he does need to go through a portal to get back into the material realm even though nobody apart from in gameplay does and the Soul reaver 2 booklet says otherwise.. and if hes somehow going to use the dimension reaver to get in the spectorial realm (though u cant even do that) the reaver needs to be charged before he can use it because in my fanfiction the reaver has to be charged and hey.....were using my rules in this thread even tho its not my thread but FF characters are in it and they have to win.

Originally posted by Burning thought
I dont know anything about any character in any game, nor can i debate but i can try to win debates by smack talking and amping up my fantasy boyfriend Kain's powers, even though its been stated in-game that the reaver needs to be charged, and shown that the reaver needs to be charged, we dont see him actually using the reavers powers in a cinematic so i can just say that its only gameplay, and that he doesnt really need to even though i have no proof or evidence to back it up, same with changing realms, its been stated in-game that he needs to go througha portal, and shown that he needs to go through a portal to get back into the material world, and kain has never done it period, so i can just say thats all gameplay bs, and make sh*t up that Kain can do it whenever wherever he wants. So since i have no proof, i can just say whatever i want and make people believe me because i am the worlds greatest LOK lover, therefore i can make Kain beat anybody in the entire VG verse

that is the biggest fail ever right there lmao and if you swapped the name at the top with Terryc250 and most of the kains with sephiroth what you say may actually be the slightest bit true durlaugh

heres your biggest fails so far across all your threads, that i could find ofc, or list..there prob more:

-massive gameplay usage, too much to be belived almost and you dont even have the games anyway, thats a massive fail
-not knowing the character at all, and being owned several times by those who do
-ranting
-like a grumpy toddler using what someone has used against you (see above post)
- loss of logic
- hypocrite, claiming things and assumtions of sephiroth, only to accuse me of assumptions later on kain, also with claims "you talk smack" at the same time your talking smack....lol..another funny thing

id add a loss of credability, but it never excisted

so in all your:

YouTube video

-gameplay usage
-not knowing the character at all, and being owned several times by those who do
-ranting
-like a grumpy toddler using what someone has used against you (see above post)
- loss of logic
- hypocrite, claiming things and assumtions of sephiroth, only to accuse me of assumptions later on kain

-gameplay usage

- loss of logic

claiming things and assumtions of sephiroth, only to accuse me of assumptions later on kain

-like a grumpy toddler using what someone has used against you (see above post)

And wow you actually posted a video for once, funny how it has nothing to do with the debate or kain though.

Originally posted by Terryc250
HAHA
You dont know a thing about any characters you debate against, you think Chaos is just a fast guy with a gun, and you dont even know wtf Omega WEAPON is, all you know is "k41N 1z t3h Ub3Rz n PwNz 4nytH1iNgZ"

And you post nothing at all except for ur fail speculation, with no real evidence.

And you have no logic at all, this is yours "So since it has to be done in gameplay, means it doesnt have to be done out of gameplay" thats ur logic right there, failure.

Exactly what? I dont assume without any evidence or quotes from the creators to back it up, we've seen ac sephiroth for 10 minutes, and we've seen Kain for about 5 games and being in control of kain in over half of them.

Giving you a taste of ur own medicine, but i can understand you must resort to that from being owned.

false claim, your listing Final fantasy characters, your saying i dont know a thing about any characters, first your fallacy is that you just said something i know, hes a guy with a gun...thats true....and second, this is just FF, not any character, FF is probably your everything however

no my logic runs deeper than you can probably comprehend, my logic is "its the soul reaver not the blood reaver, it has Raziels soul in it, giving it its powersource and even after centiuries later in SR 2 has enough power to heal itself by draining raziels soul", its logical that if a sword is powered by souls and has an immortal soul inside it, theres nothing to suggest the soul reaver needs charging, the only time Raziel needs charging is when he is harmed, the sou lreaver does not get harmed.....the reaver has basically infnite charge, you fail

you assume too much, you assume with the neg lifestream he can create materia, when we dont know how its made in the first place and how long it would take him, if its even possible without a special function to create it, yet you assumed he could, then you make excuses like "he was only in it for 10 mins" so you assume if he was in it for longer he would have done more, this is an assumption either way

how would you know, youve never seen me get owned.......altho youve been owned many times

You dont know a thing about any characters.. except Kain.

no my logic runs deeper than you can probably comprehend, my logic is "its the soul reaver not the blood reaver, it has Raziels soul in it, giving it its powersource and even after centiuries later in SR 2 has enough power to heal itself by draining raziels soul", its logical that if a sword is powered by souls and has an immortal soul inside it, theres nothing to suggest the soul reaver needs charging, the only time Raziel needs charging is when he is harmed, the sou lreaver does not get harmed.....the reaver has basically infnite charge, you fail

it has Raziels soul in it, giving it its powersource and even after centiuries later in SR 2 has enough power to heal itself by draining raziels soul", its logical that if a sword is powered by souls and has an immortal soul inside it

you assume too much, you assume with the neg lifestream he can create materia, when we dont know how its made in the first place and how long it would take him, if its even possible without a special function to create it, yet you assumed he could, then you make excuses like "he was only in it for 10 mins" so you assume if he was in it for longer he would have done more, this is an assumption either way

how would you know, youve never seen me get owned.......altho youve been owned many times [/B]

Originally posted by Terryc250
You dont know a thing about any characters.. except Kain.

LOL @ "my logic runs deeper than you can probably comprehend"

That makes no sense, "its logical that if a sword is powered by soul[b]S and has AN immortal soul inside it" So the SR takes SOULS and it has 1 PERMANENT soul in it, so that must mean it doesnt require souls anymore even though we clearly see it still needing to be charged after Raziel is in it, it could just mean for example if the SR takes 15 souls to be fully charged, now it takes less souls because it has 1 permanent soul in it..

How is that assuming? What is materia made out of? Lifestream, what does sephiroth have control of? Yes exactly. Its stated in the game whats materia is made out of, no one creates materia, because its impossible unless you have control of the lifestream which no one does except sephiroth.

Lol u get owned all the time because u try to debate against ppl Kain has no chance against [/B]

...proof? nope, baseless rubbish

you dont have logic so you cant comprehend any of it anyway "shrug"

the swords power is all from Raziel, thats why its the soul reaver, the only way it could become weakened is if Raziel goes mad from starvation in the blade and even then, its just weakened slightly as its shown in SR 2 that it still has the power to drain raziel to heal itself

we dont see it needing to be charged, show me where its needed to be charged?

its assuming because hes never done it, theres no logic behind it, its made from lifestream wheras this is negative, we dont know negative cna do the same as the natural lifestream, and just because something is made out of something doesnt mean someone can make it if he has the resources, give me some wood, i wouldnt be able to make a chair, id like to see you make your own toaster given a few squares of plastic and enough metal....

ive never got owned, your talking "smack" and earlier you said i did, lolllaooololololols

Wrong he doesn't know just about Kain, there's Kratos, and Raziel, and ummmmmmmmmm Elder God?

Warcraft characters, Supreme commander, LOK, GOW with Kratos, DMC...plenty, and loads of other games that are for PC at least, things that can prob not be used in debates or would be boring in debates, i know a fair amount of characters, i use Kain because he can destroy fanboys and their beloved characters

Fool, No one can defeat rabid Seph fanboys. No one.

lol except! ROBOCOP!

Originally posted by Burning thought
...proof? nope, baseless rubbish

you dont have logic so you cant comprehend any of it anyway "shrug"

the swords power is all from Raziel, thats why its the soul reaver, the only way it could become weakened is if Raziel goes mad from starvation in the blade and even then, its just weakened slightly as its shown in SR 2 that it still has the power to drain raziel to heal itself

we dont see it needing to be charged, show me where its needed to be charged?

its assuming because hes never done it, theres no logic behind it, its made from lifestream wheras this is negative, we dont know negative cna do the same as the natural lifestream, and just because something is made out of something doesnt mean someone can make it if he has the resources, give me some wood, i wouldnt be able to make a chair, id like to see you make your own toaster given a few squares of plastic and enough metal....

ive never got owned, your talking "smack" and earlier you said i did, lolllaooololololols

uhh theres a difference between being weakened and needing to heal, and being charged..

Yes we do seeing it needing to be charged, in the final battle against elder god, you still need to charge it even with raziel inside of it.

the negative lifestream is the same thing as the lifestream but it has the j-cells inside of it, it was still able to create creatures from out of the ground n crap, thats horrible example, theres a diffrerence between being able to just move around wood, and then fully being able to control it as in bending it and altering it at will, it was even shown that sephiroths weak renments were able to create those creatures out of the lifestream, whereas sephiroth has the full force of it at his disposal.

I only talk smack to u, because thats all you do, and i think its time for ur pills.

Originally posted by Burning thought
lol except! ROBOCOP!

Originally posted by Terryc250
uhh theres a difference between being weakened and needing to heal, and being charged..

Yes we do seeing it needing to be charged, in the final battle against elder god, you still need to charge it even with raziel inside of it.

the negative lifestream is the same thing as the lifestream but it has the j-cells inside of it, it was still able to create creatures from out of the ground n crap, thats horrible example, theres a diffrerence between being able to just move around wood, and then fully being able to control it as in bending it and altering it at will, it was even shown that sephiroths weak renments were able to create those creatures out of the lifestream, whereas sephiroth has the full force of it at his disposal.

I only talk smack to u, because thats all you do, and i think its time for ur pills.

i think ill just leave you to your delusions, Madmel if he pleases can carry on this debate since he knows Kain and i think he knows Final fantasy to boot, he could prob pwn you more than i with knowledge of your own characters but your simply repeating points over and over again

ill answer your foolishness

show me when it needs to be charged, nothing charges in the fight against EG......

but anyway, ROBOCOP! will destroy you FF fan

ROBOCOP destroys everything. Don't bring him into this fight.

Originally posted by Burning thought
i think ill just leave you to your delusions, Madmel if he pleases can carry on this debate since he knows Kain and i think he knows Final fantasy to boot, he could prob pwn you more than i with knowledge of your own characters but your simply repeating points over and over again

ill answer your foolishness

show me when it needs to be charged, nothing charges in the fight against EG......

but anyway, ROBOCOP! will destroy you FF fan

Your the one under delusions, he clearly still has to charge his SR

YouTube video

see the charge bar?

I repeating points because u keep repeating that he'll "do this and this and this" without any proof he can.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Madmel if he pleases can carry on this debate since he knows Kain and i think he knows Final fantasy to boot, he could prob pwn you more than i with knowledge of your own characters but your simply repeating points over and over again

Originally posted by MadMel
please
i gave up on this ages ago
people like terry are beyond saving 😬

hmm true enough "shrug" lol at least we tried

Originally posted by Burning thought
hmm true enough "shrug" lol at least we tried