Originally posted by llagrok
He had the power cosmic.
Hold on isnt that speculation? I thought according to you that if you dont see feats then its speculation , so its not speculation now?
Anyway I think he couldnt because I think if he did that was a power he could have used to alter his tech....meh I dunno...im inclined to think that he could anyway.
Originally posted by llagrok
And you don't know a lot about Longshot, do you?
Did I say that....no I didnt...nevermind still get in my face.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Hold on isnt that speculation? I thought according to you that if you dont see feats then its speculation , so its not speculation now?
It's not speculation, because Galactus had the power cosmic in the exiles verse as well...
In case you didn't know, it's possible to have the power cosmic without being as strong as the 616 Silver Surfer.
Originally posted by llagrokYes I am beginning to see the light of day. This whole universe was weaker. Not enough feats were shown and the power cosmic was different altogether. Right because Galactus was different so the power cosmic should be the same. But not different for the better but different for the worse.
Not really. A lot of the imperial guardians are trash, and most don't even have enhanced durability.
I bet the earth that he defeated had no heroes on it as well and if it did they were much much weaker.
Originally posted by llagrok
It's not speculation, because Galactus had the power cosmic in the exiles verse as well...In case you didn't know, it's possible to have the power cosmic without being as strong as the 616 Silver Surfer.
So what its not 616 remember the cosmic could be different. 😐
Like I said I dont think everbody who has the power cosmic can alter matter even in 616, it seems that Exiles SS just used his powers for destruction.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
It means he doesn't have that power.
Sorry what are you refering to?
Originally posted by AlfheimIt's what I remember of Longshot, he needed pure intentions. If he was selfish he would wind up with bad luck.
Can you prove it and does this apply to Koing or hurting?
There's no indication for his powers doing any more than depicted anyway, directing him in the general direction of 522 Surfer's back, even if he can use his power for killing intentions. It didn't make the board any faster or more pointy, and unless 522 Surfer has some unspecified magic weak point it didn't direct it specifically towards that.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes I am beginning to see the light of day. This whole universe was weaker. Not enough feats were shown and the power cosmic was different altogether. Right because Galactus was different so the power cosmic should be the same. But not different for the better but different for the worse.I bet the earth that he defeated had no heroes on it as well and if it did they were much much weaker.
The imperial guardians are generally trash, no matter what universe. Just like how most of the Centurions were trash. I was referring to the 616 Imperial Guardians, most of whom the X-men and Vulcan had no trouble cutting through.
Originally posted by Alfheim
So what its not 616 remember the cosmic could be different. 😐
Like I said I dont think everbody who has the power cosmic can alter matter even in 616, it seems that Exiles SS just used his powers for destruction.
Galactus represents equity in every universe, unless I'm horribly mistaken.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
It's what I remember of Longshot, he needed pure intentions.
You might be right actually...
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
anyway, directing him in the general direction of 522 Surfer's back, even if he can use his power for killing intentions. It didn't make the board any faster or more pointy.
.......his powers make unlikey events occur......
Originally posted by llagrokGalactus represents equity in every universe, unless I'm horribly mistaken.
and? Its a different universe a different galactus a different power cosmic.
Originally posted by llagrokOh I see so you just automatically assume they suck. I think you are speculating here. Gladiator hasnt been a bich in any other universes has he so by that logic shouldnt we also give him the benefit of the doubt. Hes formidable no matter what universe. 🙂
The imperial guardians are generally trash, no matter what universe. Just like how most of the Centurions were trash. I was referring to the 616 Imperial Guardians, most of whom the X-men and Vulcan had no trouble cutting through.Galactus represents equity in every universe, unless I'm horribly mistaken.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Oh I see so you just automatically assume they suck. I think you are speculating here. Gladiator hasnt been a bich in any other universes has he so by that logic shouldnt we also give him the benefit of the doubt. Hes formidable no matter what universe. 🙂
I'm referring to the 616 ones.
I don't do speculation.
Originally posted by llagrok
I don't do speculation.
Your doing it now....according to your standards. Gladiator looks the same as he does in 616 we cant assume that he has the same power level because we havent seen any feats but SS from a different universe with a different power cosmic has the same powers eventhough we havent seen any feats.
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Originally posted by Alfheim
Your doing it now....according to your standards. Gladiator looks the same as he does in 616 we cant assume that he has the same power level because we havent seen any feats but SS from a different universe with a different power cosmic has the same powers eventhough we havent seen any feats.👆
Nope.
I simply stated that the exiles Silver Surfer had the power cosmic.
Originally posted by AlfheimErr.. no you're either thinking of I don't know, X-Men Evolution Scarlet Witch or something. His powers don't just make something that would never occur otherwise happen as far as I recall.
You might be right actually..........his powers make unlikey events occur......
People don't spontaneously combust as he fights them.
If he punches Colossus, the incredibly improbable event of Colossus imploding, isn't going to occur, simply because they're in close proximity.
At most his power would have allowed him to guide the board towards a weak point if it existed. It wouldn't create a weak point. It wouldn't make the board pointier, or denser, or faster.
There's nothing to suggest there was a weak point there. All that's shown is that the board flew behind 522 Surfer.
And it states in the comic that 522 Galactus imbued 522 Surfer with the Power Cosmic. 😐
But that doesn't mean he can phase, or can transmute matter, or has telepathy. Nor can he reform, since he died from being cut in half.
All that means is what it says, he has the respective Power Cosmic of his universe, and the powers granted which were the ones displayed.
Originally posted by quanchi112
You dont know that and maybe its because this Silver Surfer makes them look like trash.
Actually I do.
The AoA ones were defeated by AoA copies rather easily. AoA versions with feats, which allows me to gauge their strength accordingly. See the difference? The AoA guardians were beaten by people with feats prior to their fight, which gives me a general idea of how strong they are. Your imperial guardians were beaten by a Surfer with no prior feats.
Originally posted by llagrok
Nope.I simply stated that the exiles Silver Surfer had the power cosmic.
Yeah but it was in response to this.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Can you prove it and does this apply to Koing or hurting? Anyway exiles surfer probably cant do matter alteration because if he did he could have probably used it to save his world. His powers seem to be only destructive.
I said he cant alter matter and you say he had the "power cosmic"ie the power cosmic by defult gives you matter alteration. Ok did I misunderstand you?
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Err.. no you're either thinking of I don't know, X-Men Evolution Scarlet Witch or something. His powers don't just make something that would never occur otherwise happen as far as I recall.People don't spontaneously combust as he fights them.
If he punches Colossus, the incredibly improbable event of Colossus imploding, isn't going to occur, simply because they're in close proximity.
At most his power would have allowed him to guide the board towards a weak point if it existed. It wouldn't create a weak point. It wouldn't make the board pointier, or denser, or faster.
There's nothing to suggest there was a weak point there. All that's shown is that the board flew behind 522 Surfer.
I thought everything has a weak point and if the board is edged it makes it easiet to get. Hell Thor probably does not have a weak point didnt stop mantis from Koing him.
From what I can remember Longshot throwing a blade at a Demons forcefield was instrumental in victory.
At any rate if there was no luck involved exile sufers board is edged, 616 is blunt.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
And it states in the comic that 522 Galactus imbued 522 Surfer with the Power Cosmic. 😐 But that doesn't mean he can phase, or can transmute matter, or has telepathy. All that means is what it says, he has the respective Power Cosmic of his universe, and the powers granted which were displayed.
Yeah.....I know. Im just dondering why the obvious is being stated.
P.S. It states his powers dont work if he trys do something selfish or evil killing exile sufere isnt evil or selfish. 😬
Originally posted by llagrokYes but you made the assumption about all of them. This Surfer and what he accomplished gave me a general idea of how powerful he was.
Actually I do.The AoA ones were defeated by AoA copies rather easily. AoA versions with feats, which allows me to gauge their strength accordingly. See the difference? The AoA guardians were beaten by people with feats prior to their fight, which gives me a general idea of how strong they are. Your imperial guardians were beaten by a Surfer with no prior feats.