Originally posted by Lady Fox
He has expanded at multiple occasions. He evolved in power during his time fighting dakrness. He evolved by fighting the demons, learning their dark arts. After fighting Kain for a long period of time, he would learn what Kain knows so well.
oh i see, learning
what i meant by Kain evolving is his constant genetic evolution, kain evolves faster than usual, every 100 or so years kain would evolve, and gain not only physical features for example wings which he is prophesised to gain, but also dark gifts, which are vampiric powers a vampre gets, more and more of as they get older, so if billions of years passed, kain may easily if every 100 years he becomes more powerful become greater than Sargerus eventually
he would eventually split planets with his hands, move faster, gain completly diffrent powers, god only knows what powers he would gain after billions of years of evolution, becoming more evolved after every 100 years
Originally posted by Lady Fox
And where can I find a source of information that states that Kain can even expand to world busting level?I assume that you got a source saying that there is no limit of his evolution. Maybe somewhere in the game it was said that he can limitlessly expand.
why would there be a limit? there is no limit to evolution......beings just conotinually evolve, not even in the real world is there a limit to evolution.....so why would there be in a fictional world, why would world busting levels be beyond kain? if he can evolve every hundred years or so, this would not be a problem for him as the years past....
we know kain continually evolves, we know evolution technically does not really stop, only in the real world, creatures take a good few millions of years to evolve, kain takes less than a thousand
kain would not genetically stop evolving technically, its logical that he would carry on evolving like all creatures
There may not be a limit to evulotion, but for all we know there can be a limit to vampires. Kain is a balance force, not a destruction force. Scion is a balance prophecy blabla, not one that is said to one day destroy the world.
Simply because it is fiction, it does not instantly mean it is limitless. You see Mickey Mouse evolve, but he would never become a world buster. Spyro the Dragon is evolvind, but he will never become a world buster.
Originally posted by Lady Fox
There may not be a limit to evulotion, but for all we know there can be a limit to vampires. Kain is a balance force, not a destruction force. Scion is a balance prophecy blabla, not one that is said to one day destroy the world.Simply because it is fiction, it does not instantly mean it is limitless. You see Mickey Mouse evolve, but he would never become a world buster. Spyro the Dragon is evolvind, but he will never become a world buster.
a limit to vampires? but why would there be? the only diffrence with kain is he evolves quickly, in hundreds of years not millions/billions, genetically and with dark gifts, Kain is the guardian of balance, the balance is to make sure there is a flow of magic within the world keeping it alive, nothing to do with him not gainging power overall, it does not effect his genetic structure, it just keeps him from dieing, but being a balance guardian would not stop his evolution otherwise he would not get stronger and more destructive abilities through his dark gifts
If in real world evolution has no limit, then in fiction, there should not be a limit unless theres a special rule in the fiction, theres no reason to belive kain has a limit on his evolution, nothing is stated or hinted at as such.
but genetically, if Micky or spiro evolved every 100 years, after billions of years, they could likely become a planet buster, kain becomes more and more powerful, gaining greater dark vampiric gifts with his age, theres nothing that states a limit and no reason to think there is one, nor for mickey or spyro if they could evolve as such
kain would gain many more destructive things, not just genetically to be able to destroy worlds physically due to muscular and bodily genetics, but he has been in touch with all these diffrent powers, time...energy, nature, the way evolution seems to work is if a creature is in contact or is in something, their bodies would evolve to make them more adapt in that area, for example amphibius creatures used to be able to come on land but some of them in ancient times supposedly just developed fins and gills and took to the seas, or vice versa, sea creatures to amphibian
Even though I do not think he will ever evolve into a world busting being, I will drop that for now.
We can not really assume that he will grow that powerful and therefore we can not base an argument on it. We know NOTHING about how he will be in a thousand years.
We can only imagine, therefore saying that he will one day will be beyond world busting strength should be considered an unstable argument and should not be permitted.
We know that Sargeras too evolve and who knows, maybe one day he becomes good again and his sword becomes whole. He maybe puts it together and becomes an all-wise warrior that he once was. Kain becomes outsmarted a hundred thousand times over and Sargeras finds a way to defeat him. He evolves to such a level that he learns to manipulate the forces of the universe and can simply undo the planet which Kain resides on.
Originally posted by Lady Fox
Even though I do not think he will ever evolve into a world busting being, I will drop that for now.We can not really assume that he will grow that powerful and therefore we can not base an argument on it. We know NOTHING about how he will be in a thousand years.
We can only imagine, therefore saying that he will one day will be beyond world busting strength should be considered an unstable argument and should not be permitted.We know that Sargeras too evolve and who knows, maybe one day he becomes good again and his sword becomes whole. He maybe puts it together and becomes an all-wise warrior that he once was. Kain becomes outsmarted a hundred thousand times over and Sargeras finds a way to defeat him. He evolves to such a level that he learns to manipulate the forces of the universe and can simply undo the planet which Kain resides on.
"shrug"
we can assume, because its logical, its logical if someone keeps becoming more powerful, eventually they will become incredibly powerful even if it took millenia, this is a constant, although its true we dont actually know what he will be like, we know he evolves incredibly quickly, we know they gain diffrent powers when he evolves so theres nothing but nothing to think he will not become any level at all, he could eventually overcome anything in billions of years of evolution, he may even master Sargerus' powers and gain even more power than sargerus ever imagined if Sargerus is using them to attack kain, kains body after a few thousand years of it perhaps less could become through evolution immune and gain power from it
your taking a diffrent spin, Sargerus does not genetically evolve like kain, what your talking about are actions, things he may do, unfortunatley if this a neutral battleground then he wont have access to things in Warcraft lore like the other piece of the sword, why would Sargerus outsmart kain over and over, kains evolution is more likely to overcome sargerus, kains mind would evolve. These are assumptions without logic assuming he can manip the forces of the universe, kain could very well become that level eventualyl because we know for fact he evolves extremely quickly gaining more and more power....Sargerus does not through genetics or magic evolve passively, he usually learns and gains power from artifiacts like he wants the well of eternity for
but regardless, this is theory kain by Sols rules.....theory kain would annhilate Sargerus, he would simply delete Sargerus from time
Originally posted by Furion
Sargeras grabs Kain and confines him to the farthest corner of the Twisting Nether. If Kain were to evolve to Planet busting however he could win.
h8 silly comments liek this, how is Sargerus going to grab someone who is A: faster and B: with the capability to escape through many means from a grab
Originally posted by Lady Fox
Theory Kain? So not Kain from the Legacy of Kain game?
same kain, only with the Theory of him involved
Originally posted by Lady Fox
He can not prove it, because Kain has never simply 'deleted' anyone from time. I know not too much about Kain, but I know he has not done that.
kain has not done it, but this is Theory kain, Kain in Theory has control over all the concepts of the pillars now, he has all the emblems of the concepts, that means he has power over the concept of time, how will he not be able to kick sargerus out of time completly?