Kain vs Team Supreme

Started by Burning thought15 pages
Originally posted by Estacado
He has infinite DT in this match.....
Kain hasn't done anything impressive with tk besides throwing around some humans hell he can't even lift the larger demons with it.......so you fail.
You have no proof that he can possess Pyron.👇

so.....that doesnt change much, it just means he wont be tooled so badly as he would be without it then

how do i fail, when is Dante as large as those larger demons, hes not, hes basically human sized in all his forms, so its not a change at all

wtf? .......i dont need any really, pyron has no resistence at all, wtf are you talking about proof....Kain has the ability, pyron has no resistence...so the logical answer is Pyron falls to it...simple

sry to take a dump on you tho

Also not even the bossess most powerful attacks can push or move Dante in Sparda form but Kain will?Fail.

Still you have no proof you simply fail.

Oh and Dante is still more faster then Kain who is far from being invulnerable he just get's cut into pieces or something like that.

Originally posted by Estacado
Also not even the bossess most powerful attacks can push or move Dante in Sparda form but Kain will?Fail.

Still you have no proof you simply fail.

Oh and Dante is still more faster then Kain who is far from being invulnerable he just get's cut into pieces or something like that.

yeh, its gameplay..so......do you have any canon sources of him being invulerable in the form, i certainly dont, however i have the cutscene from DMC1 when he uses but Mundus still ends up sending dark shards into the guy and sends him down...so much for invulerability

..errr......learn to debate

still more faster than kain, riiiggghht, okie show me how he can move a good 1000 metres or so please in less time than kain can move his hand, and no your right Kain is not invulerable in this fight, he has only 1 resurrection available

Anyways I don't know why am I arguing a guy who thinks Kain could be a weakened Galactus.

your not really argueing, your better at posting smilies and rubbish, and Fantastic 4 beat a weakened Galactus, their nothing on kain.....but regardless how is any of that relevent, you lose the argument then sulk.....lawlz indeed

Originally posted by Burning thought
yeh, its gameplay..so......do you have any canon sources of him being invulerable in the form, i certainly dont, however i have the cutscene from DMC1 when he uses but Mundus still ends up sending dark shards into the guy and sends him down...so much for invulerability

..errr......learn to debate

still more faster than kain, riiiggghht, okie show me how he can move a good 1000 metres or so please in less time than kain can move his hand, and no your right Kain is not invulerable in this fight, he has only 1 resurrection available

Dante is cutting bullets with his blade that is a reflex and speed feat. Also he grabs a motorcycle like it's nothing and laughing at headshots. He got blown up, stabbed and such things and he still alive. Currently Dante is powerful as hell. In the trickster style he has super speed,short range teleport, agility which Kain can only dream of. There is no proof that Kain can effect Dante is mind or heart or anything to possess him. so much for the soul. There is no proof he can effect Dante's soul. Kain resurrection? Dante just autmatically uses resurrection himself via gold orbs. So there is no evidence of your Kain doing these things. But there is proof in the game that physical attacks can indeed effect Kain. Note that : Dante defeated hell ruler kind of demons but yet telekinesis is going to stop??? He could just use Lucifer or Pandora's box from range and blow Kain into pieces.

About the Super Sparda form from DMC2. It can't even be moved even bosses can't do shit abou it, but it one shots bosses.

Here is my theory. Dante uses all his styles against Kain, while Kratos makes himself godsized and just keep attacking (these two could also kill him) Sephiroth starts his magic tricks while Kain is fighting these guys (each one alone could deal with Kain) Raziel goes behind Kain and just cut him into pieces while Dante and Hayabusha uses ice magic attacks on him and after that they just burn the ice on the pieces.

NOTE : I'm trying to find a way to your logic which I think fails more and more with every post you make.

Pyron alone could kill him. He could just one shot the planet.

Dante could kill Kain in million ways.

Raziel too, he knows Kain better than anyone he can do it alone.

Kratos? With all his power is the god of war. A god. I hope I don't have to tell you what that means.

I'm not sure about Sephiroth I played FF7 a long time ago.

Originally posted by Rewmac
Dante is cutting bullets with his blade that is a reflex and speed feat. Also he grabs a motorcycle like it's nothing and laughing at headshots. He got blown up, stabbed and such things and he still alive. Currently Dante is powerful as hell. In the trickster style he has super speed,short range teleport, agility which Kain can only dream of. There is no proof that Kain can effect Dante is mind or heart or anything to possess him. so much for the soul. There is no proof he can effect Dante's soul. Kain resurrection? Dante just autmatically uses resurrection himself via gold orbs. So there is no evidence of your Kain doing these things. But there is proof in the game that physical attacks can indeed effect Kain. Note that : Dante defeated hell ruler kind of demons but yet telekinesis is going to stop??? He could just use Lucifer or Pandora's box from range and blow Kain into pieces.

About the Super Sparda form from DMC2. It can't even be moved even bosses can't do shit abou it, but it one shots bosses.

agility that kain can only dream of? kain can also teleport and move fairly quickly, kain can become the infamous mist if he needs to move fast, whats as agile as the fvucking air itself. WTF? all this no proof BS is ridiculous, what do you mean no proof, kain has the ability, Dante does not have the resistence, so kain can effect him, otherwise theres no proof Dantes powers have ever effected an immortal scion of balance either, so Dante loses by default? foolish argument if its even given the title

Kain is given 1 resurrection in this thread instead of his invulerability, Resserection Orbs are gameplay purpose objects, not canon objects. Otherwise Kain can use Tarot device to just splatter Dante. No he would not blow kain into pieces, Kain will just use repel to shield himself, teleport to clear any gap Dante tries to make and use his superior Soul reaver blade to smash Dante into a crippled fool on the floor and thats if he amuses himself...and yes Kain can use TK, it will stop him, why? coz a load of titles like "hells ruler" doesnt give him TK resistence, another illogical and broken argument....also you say physical can effect kain but not when hes mist, also cutting kain is pointless, its not going to do anyone any good unless you decapacitate the guy, and none of these will clear the gap before Kain has a shield or has already Possesed Pyron, and then all this Sephiroth, Dante, Ryu BS is down the drain since they wouldnt survive a hit from pyron

yh fvucking in-game rubbish, no actual canon evidence whatsoever and does not add up with already shown DMC1 canon of Mundus harming him, Kain can respawn at checkpoints too, oh my gosh hez cannot be beatzors!!

Originally posted by Rewmac
Here is my theory. Dante uses all his styles against Kain, while Kratos makes himself godsized and just keep attacking (these two could also kill him) Sephiroth starts his magic tricks while Kain is fighting these guys (each one alone could deal with Kain) Raziel goes behind Kain and just cut him into pieces while Dante and Hayabusha uses ice magic attacks on him and after that they just burn the ice on the pieces.

NOTE : I'm trying to find a way to your logic which I think fails more and more with every post you make.

Pyron alone could kill him. He could just one shot the planet.

Dante could kill Kain in million ways.

Raziel too, he knows Kain better than anyone he can do it alone.

Kratos? With all his power is the god of war. A god. I hope I don't have to tell you what that means.

I'm not sure about Sephiroth I played FF7 a long time ago.

no you see your childish foolery and lack of knowledge will not help you at all

first none of that will happen, Kain before they do anything can move his hand, in which case a shield will come up and Pyron is possessed....then their done for, now ill answer these as if Kain was fighting them one at a time

1. nope, pyron would not hit kain before Kain simply moves his hand or thinks the spell and Pyron is Possessed

2. no Dante wouldnt do squat to kain, Kain could TK shackle him making him useless, Kain could slow time and time bolt Dante...Kain wins again, Kain could shield, then laugh at Dantes attempts, then use Blood shower and drain dante of all his blood, shriverling him up, and thats if he doesnt just slash him with a dimensional reaver teleport and blasts Dante into pieces

3. what BS is this? Kain would just impale Raziel and hell enter the blade, game set and match......Raziel is no match for kain at all

4. its a title used for the Christian Gods name, often referred to by fools as a title in names to make people belive they are higher than they really are, but heres what kratos is as a God: hes a fairly large fellow, bones cannot break and he cant burn which is the only GOW canon values of a God in that universe, however their souls can be taken, they can be killed by physical powers, and their minds can be entered and they are vulerable to time and destiny attacks, ala the sisters of fate.

the rest dont deserve menstion

Originally posted by Burning thought
agility that kain can only dream of? kain can also teleport and move fairly quickly, kain can become the infamous mist if he needs to move fast, whats as agile as the fvucking air itself. WTF? all this no proof BS is ridiculous, what do you mean no proof, kain has the ability, Dante does not have the resistence, so kain can effect him, otherwise theres no proof Dantes powers have ever effected an immortal scion of balance either, so Dante loses by default? foolish argument if its even given the title

Kain is given 1 resurrection in this thread instead of his invulerability, Resserection Orbs are gameplay purpose objects, not canon objects. Otherwise Kain can use Tarot device to just splatter Dante. No he would not blow kain into pieces, Kain will just use repel to shield himself, teleport to clear any gap Dante tries to make and use his superior Soul reaver blade to smash Dante into a crippled fool on the floor and thats if he amuses himself...and yes Kain can use TK, it will stop him, why? coz a load of titles like "hells ruler" doesnt give him TK resistence, another illogical and broken argument....also you say physical can effect kain but not when hes mist, also cutting kain is pointless, its not going to do anyone any good unless you decapacitate the guy, and none of these will clear the gap before Kain has a shield or has already Possesed Pyron, and then all this Sephiroth, Dante, Ryu BS is down the drain since they wouldnt survive a hit from pyron

yh fvucking in-game rubbish, no actual canon evidence whatsoever and does not add up with already shown DMC1 canon of Mundus harming him, Kain can respawn at checkpoints too, oh my gosh hez cannot be beatzors!!

crylaugh

Originally posted by Rewmac
crylaugh

lmao, typical....typical....

bury your argument and begone troll

Originally posted by Burning thought
lmao, typical....typical....

bury your argument and begone troll

hmmmm.....I think I gonna cry...😖hifty:

Originally posted by Rewmac
hmmmm.....I think I gonna cry...😖hifty:

k.....

Originally posted by Rewmac
I'm not sure about Sephiroth I played FF7 a long time ago.

Sephiroth is very powerful in FFVII, but it's stated he is even more in AC.
He can control the NL(Negative Lifestream) with his mind, and make it destroy everything on a planet.
Something important to note too, is that he is a "traveler of the Lifestream", a very powerful soul. Sephiroth don't need a body to use the NL, or to use his TK(to hold back Holy for example, like he was doing in FFVII, even after his physical body(Safer) was destroyed).

Kain is not Cloud, meaning that Sephiroth will not be victim of PIS and CIS. So he will just abandon Jenova's body, cover the planet with NL, and destroys it. Bye bye Kain.

Originally posted by SHM
Sephiroth is very powerful in FFVII, but it's stated he is even more in AC.
He can control the NL(Negative Lifestream) with his mind, and make it destroy everything on a planet.
Something important to note too, is that he is a "traveler of the Lifestream", a very powerful soul. Sephiroth don't need a body to use the NL, or to use his TK(to hold back Holy for example, like he was doing in FFVII, even after his physical body(Safer) was destroyed).

He will just abandon Jenova's body, cover the planet with NL, and destroys it. Bye bye Kain.

can you show me him abandoning his body and still able to use things please or even control the lifestream also whos saying this is just one planet, it could be several, kain would be in his shield and pyron would swat the rest of the team, bye bye team, sounds like rubbish all this Sephiroth abandoning a body and still controlling the lifestream, when has he done it?

Originally posted by Burning thought
can you show me him abandoning his body and still able to use things please or even control the lifestream also whos saying this is just one planet, it could be several, kain would be in his shield and pyron would swat the rest of the team, bye bye team, sounds like rubbish all this Sephiroth abandoning a body and still controlling the lifestream, when has he done it?
Can you show proof to anything you say? Proof that Kain can effect the Sparda form. Evidence that can beat the God Of War. Evidence that Kain can possess the son Of Sparda? Nope...Big time...

On the other hand the feats I brought are showed in the games, and physical attacks can efect Kain, but there isn't any proof that Kain's so called powers would effect Dante (possession, TP and so).

Originally posted by Burning thought
can you show me him abandoning his body and still able to use things please or even control the lifestream also whos saying this is just one planet, it could be several, kain would be in his shield and pyron would swat the rest of the team, bye bye team, sounds like rubbish all this Sephiroth abandoning a body and still controlling the lifestream, when has he done it?

ALL IN FF7
IN AC HE MADE LOZ, YAZOO, AND KADAJ!
stop posting stupid questions.

Originally posted by Burning thought
can you show me him abandoning his body and still able to use things please or even control the lifestream also whos saying this is just one planet, it could be several, kain would be in his shield and pyron would swat the rest of the team, bye bye team, sounds like rubbish all this Sephiroth abandoning a body and still controlling the lifestream, when has he done it?

He did it before AC started. He used the NL to create Yazoo, Loz, and Kadaj. He didn't have a physical body at the time.
And he makes the NL cover the sky in the end of AC too(I'm sure Terry already showed you this scene).
The final battle of FFVII is against Safer Sephiroth, his human body transformed in an angelic monster. After being defeated, his body disintegrated, but he still was holding back Holy. Then Cloud's soul leaved his body and went after Sephiroth in the Lifestream. Only after finding, and "destroying" Sephiroth's soul, Holy was released.

As you can see, Sephiroth don't need a physical body to affect the physical world. The reason he used Jenova's body in AC, was because of Cloud.

The Reunion Files states that the reason for Sephiroth appearing in the movie, was revenge for what happened in Nibelheim(and FFVII I believe).
He wanted to meet Cloud face to face, and have his revenge.

If you think about it, everything that happens in AC is just a whim of Sephiroth. He created the three silver haired brothers only because he wanted them to find Jenova cells, and create a new body for him. And he wanted a new body, only because he wanted a fight with Cloud and to torture him.
Sephiroth could have used the NL to destroy the world before the movie even started, but he decided to meet Cloud face to face and play with him, before destroying everything.

Originally posted by Furion
ALL IN FF7
IN AC HE MADE LOZ, YAZOO, AND KADAJ!
stop posting stupid questions.
Originally posted by SHM
He did it before AC started. He used the NL to create Yazoo, Loz, and Kadaj. He didn't have a physical body at the time.
And he makes the NL cover the sky in the end of AC too(I'm sure Terry already showed you this scene).
The final battle of FFVII is against Safer Sephiroth, his human body transformed in an angelic monster. After being defeated, his body disintegrated, but he still was holding back Holy. Then Cloud's soul leaved his body and went after Sephiroth in the Lifestream. Only after finding, and "destroying" Sephiroth's soul, Holy was released.

As you can see, Sephiroth don't need a physical body to affect the physical world. The reason he used Jenova's body in AC, was because of Cloud.

The Reunion Files states that the reason for Sephiroth appearing in the movie, was revenge for what happened in Nibelheim(and FFVII I believe).
He wanted to meet Cloud face to face, and have his revenge.

If you think about it, everything that happens in AC is just a whim of Sephiroth. He created the three silver haired brothers only because he wanted them to find Jenova cells, and create a new body for him. And he wanted a new body, only because he wanted a fight with Cloud and to torture him.
Sephiroth could have used the NL to destroy the world before the movie even started, but he decided to meet Cloud face to face and play with him, before doing that.

Don't sweat it guys. Can't you see everything that we try to explain means nothing to him. He just simply ignores facts to make Kain win, no matter what. He is the very basic type of fanboy.

Originally posted by Furion
ALL IN FF7
IN AC HE MADE LOZ, YAZOO, AND KADAJ!
stop posting stupid questions.

creating those does not answer my question however SHM did

Originally posted by SHM
He did it before AC started. He used the NL to create Yazoo, Loz, and Kadaj. He didn't have a physical body at the time.
And he makes the NL cover the sky in the end of AC too(I'm sure Terry already showed you this scene).
The final battle of FFVII is against Safer Sephiroth, his human body transformed in an angelic monster. After being defeated, his body disintegrated, but he still was holding back Holy. Then Cloud's soul leaved his body and went after Sephiroth in the Lifestream. Only after finding, and "destroying" Sephiroth's soul, Holy was released.

As you can see, Sephiroth don't need a physical body to affect the physical world. The reason he used Jenova's body in AC, was because of Cloud.

The Reunion Files states that the reason for Sephiroth appearing in the movie, was revenge for what happened in Nibelheim(and FFVII I believe).
He wanted to meet Cloud face to face, and have his revenge.

If you think about it, everything that happens in AC is just a whim of Sephiroth. He created the three silver haired brothers only because he wanted them to find Jenova cells, and create a new body for him. And he wanted a new body, only because he wanted a fight with Cloud and to torture him.
Sephiroth could have used the NL to destroy the world before the movie even started, but he decided to meet Cloud face to face and play with him, before destroying everything.

yes ive seen that but that was when he had a body, i meant has he done it without a body? also by without a body you mean he still has a soul?

as long as he has a soul he can be fought by kain and destroyed

Originally posted by Rewmac
Don't sweat it guys. Can't you see everything that we try to explain means nothing to him. He just simply ignores facts to make Kain win, no matter what. He is the very basic type of fanboy.

...lol

"ive got no argument so i have to try and make up stupid rubbish"

what facts am i ignoring? your just hating on kain and BS laddie

Originally posted by Burning thought
creating those does not answer my question however SHM did

yes ive seen that but that was when he had a body, i meant has he done it without a body? also by without a body you mean he still has a soul?

as long as he has a soul he can be fought by kain and destroyed

...lol

"ive got no argument so i have to try and make up stupid rubbish"

what facts am i ignoring? your just hating on kain and BS laddie

Now that was an irrelevant post.