Gray Fox Vs. Master Chief

Originally posted by sigma-ct42

and since it's unknown STOP BRINGING IT UP. we have no way of knowing until given insight on the sword's power.

holy crap im not saying anything about the sword being powerful im saying that its sharp so it does all its pressure in a smaller area, any sword would do this, just the fact that its heated would weaken any metal even if it doesnt melt it heat weakens metal and if that happens to be wrong in this case im sorry, but a sharp object with incredible force behind it would penetrate a lot easyer than a blunt force of equal force thats a fact (not saying that the force of gf is greater than him hitting the earth), and your being a hypocrite, nothing here is a sure thing so you should not bring it up, i mean the whole mc can see bullets in slow mo should be void because we dont know if thats faster than gf, and the whole mc can flip a tank with ease and gf stopped metal gear should be stricken from the record because you cant prove either way which is stronger, and the thing about there is no way that the sword could cut his armor cuz its more advanced should be a stupid argument to because there is no way you could know that, this is all speculation from what we observe, there is NO way either of us could know for a fact which would win so we should all just stop discussing it according to your logic.

but i think we should continue discussing it

yes he was there's so much strain in his voice it's impossible to miss.

It's his strain at yelling at Snake to move.

Since when do people "strain" when they yell? 😬

Who gives a shit whether or not he "strained?"

Master Chief would be crushed under a third of Metal Gear Rex's weight.

I'm goin' with Grey Fox. From the evidence put forward in this thread it seems olligical to pick MC.

I just watched the video.

And I call bullshit. First off, the Metal Gear is still standing on one leg, which means at least half, maybe even more, of it's weight is being put on the other leg. Second off, as you can see the leg being lifted isn't straining or moving at all, and when does shift it's weight onto the lifted foot Raiden buckles instantly, which leads me to believe that it wasn't' actually pressing down.

So at the most Raiden was only lifting a bit less than half of the MG's weight, which means that if it weighs around, say, 200 tons, he'd be lifting about 90 tons. Factor in the fact that the Chief can "effortlessly" lift 66 tons means that if he were to try with literally all of his might to the point where his voice was cracking like Raiden's, it's certainly possible that he could close the 30 ton gap. It would, literally, only take about an extra third of his strength. Going from near effortlessly to a third of your total strength isn't that outlandish.

The Rex was going to stomp on Snake, until Fox jumped in before it could and stopped the foot, and it DID apply pressure, as seen by how after stomping it the ground under Fox's feet dents in, and GF was seen to push the foot up. And GF was hardly "straining."

YouTube video

Also, REX weighs more than 200 tons.

Oh, and then we see GF near effortlessly dodging and deflecting bullets in a manner MC has never shown.

So do we even know how strong Chief really is? I know he can flip a tank but he does that with ease. Maybe John can also stop REX's foot.

Maybe John can also pick up the Polynesian islands and throw them to Jupiter?

Yeah, REX is alot heavier than 66 tons and was applying its own pressure, GF stopped it.

Just so we're all aware, the force required to flip a tank is not the same as to lift it over your head. Get a few friends and try to flip a car, then try to life it over your heads. .. One is much easier to do.

Originally posted by Final Blaxican
Since when do people "strain" when they yell? 😬

*Scoffs*
Beats me. 😕

holy crap im not saying anything about the sword being powerful im saying that its sharp so it does all its pressure in a smaller area, any sword would do this, just the fact that its heated would weaken any metal even if it doesnt melt it heat weakens metal and if that happens to be wrong in this case im sorry, but a sharp object with incredible force behind it would penetrate a lot easyer than a blunt force of equal force thats a fact (not saying that the force of gf is greater than him hitting the earth), and your being a hypocrite, nothing here is a sure thing so you should not bring it up, i mean the whole mc can see bullets in slow mo should be void because we dont know if thats faster than gf, and the whole mc can flip a tank with ease and gf stopped metal gear should be stricken from the record because you cant prove either way which is stronger, and the thing about there is no way that the sword could cut his armor cuz its more advanced should be a stupid argument to because there is no way you could know that, this is all speculation from what we observe, there is NO way either of us could know for a fact which would win so we should all just stop discussing it according to your logic.

nidiun. you are by far the most dense human being that has been my displeasure to converse with.

Who gives a shit whether or not he "strained?" Master Chief would be crushed under a third of Metal Gear Rex's weight.

prove it?

Originally posted by sigma-ct42
nidiun. you are by far the most dense human being that has been my displeasure to converse with.

Im dence because i know that this is all speculation or because i think that heat weakens metal? be specific please, instead of just insulting someone use constructive critisism, that way i could defend myself or agree with you, i might be missing something

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Just so we're all aware, the force required to flip a tank is not the same as to lift it over your head. Get a few friends and try to flip a car, then try to life it over your heads. .. One is much easier to do.

Exelent point!

Originally posted by sigma-ct42
prove it?

And like I showed, he hardly "strained."

ok lets forget about the strength issue for now, what i want to know is how mc would hit someone that can diflect bullets with ease and can turn invisible? radar is out i mean just cuz you know what area he is in doesnt mean you can see them

Because Master Chief has no strength feats to suggest he is that strong maybe?

there's also nothing that suggests he isn't either?

And like I showed, he hardly "strained."

yeah i must've imagined all of that shaking and strain in his voice.

Just so we're all aware, the force required to flip a tank is not the same as to lift it over your head. Get a few friends and try to flip a car, then try to life it over your heads. .. One is much easier to do.

in order to flip, you must lift. for the record GF didn't "lift" anything. he simply help it up :/

Im dence because i know that this is all speculation

because you've constantly ignored facts pointed out to you.

Originally posted by sigma-ct42
there's also nothing that suggests he isn't either?

yeah i must've imagined all of that shaking and strain in his voice.

in order to flip, you must lift. for the record GF didn't "lift" anything. he simply help it up :/

because you've constantly ignored facts pointed out to you.

2. You didn't watch the vid I posted did you?

3. In order to flip, you must lift a portion of its weight, not the whole thing. And GF did not hold it up, he stopped it and held it back.

im not ignoring facts, at least not intentionaly, like i said if im missing something tell me instead of insulting me, that way i can respond to that instead of just the insult