Originally posted by EvilAngel1. When in reality he has been doing it for years nonstop.
I love how you only seem to read part of what i write, twist my wordsRead it again. I said move at mach 5 for a few minutes..... Pay attention.
That animal thing seems like it's supposed to annoy me. Don't do it, you know it will
He bought them to their knees and still lost? my god, his saber skill really must suck some major ass huh?
2. You do realise his hunger is about as conscious as the heroin addicts desire for their next load, right?
If some were mechanics they could..
You guys correct me where I'm wrong because clearly i don't understand this right:
I see the force as like.... water, that cover EVERYTHING in the SW universe. The medi's mass where the water is most dense, in a person who can sense and control the water well.
Like how Force powers are used on say, robots, doors, controls, they pulls the 'water' to force the given object to do what ever.
However, Since Sephiroth does not originate from the SW verse. He has no water in him. Thus... you can't use your water to affect him....
That a bad analogy, but it's the best i could do inside 2 minutes
2. You got mad when someone said dog, what do you want me to call him? Forcestus?
3. No, he brought them to their knees, and tried to Hunger Drain the Exile, the Exile being a Wound in the Force, was not affected, and his drain backfired on him, weakening him greatly.
4. Still concious, and that is irrevelant.
5. ....What? How would them being mechanics or not change anything?
6. No, that is wrong. Inanimate and nonliving things are not touched by the Force at all, hell, some living things are not even touched by the Force, and can still be easily killed and affected by it.
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. When in reality he has been doing it for years nonstop.2. You got mad when someone said dog, what do you want me to call him? Forcestus?
3. No, he brought them to their knees, and tried to Hunger Drain the Exile, the Exile being a Wound in the Force, was not affected, and his drain backfired on him, weakening him greatly.
4. Still concious, and that is irrevelant.
5. ....What? How would them being mechanics or not change anything?
6. No, that is wrong. Inanimate and nonliving things are not touched by the Force at all, hell, some living things are not even touched by the Force, and can still be easily killed and affected by it.
1. Moving at Lightspeed?
2. ....How about Red, his name... and only 3 letters long. I'll just start making nicknames for all your favourite characters, no problem, since it's obviously nohnig to get worked up about.
3. So DN's Precog sucks? or is just really stupid.
4. Irrelevent point on DN.... why did you even say it.
5. Mechanics fix cars apparently. I know i thought all they did was create car problems then charge you for screwing up your car, but nope.
6. If their not touched, they can't be affected... it think you're understand of it that's wrong IMO. Sure mine ain't gonan be entirely right. But what you just said makes no sense.
Originally posted by MadMel
is there any reason why it shouldnt, instead of just "it wont cuz hes sephiroth!!!11211"?
....read my veiw on the force and why it won't.
And stop being stupid. Sephiroth is no different to any other none SW being in this case. And i can't think of a reason or circumstance to change that
you mean this?
Originally posted by EvilAngel
I see the force as like.... water, that cover EVERYTHING in the SW universe. The medi's mass where the water is most dense, in a person who can sense and control the water well.Like how Force powers are used on say, robots, doors, controls, they pulls the 'water' to force the given object to do what ever.
However, Since Sephiroth does not originate from the SW verse. He has no water in him. Thus... you can't use your water to affect him....
Originally posted by MadMelThat's it
you mean this?i know you didnt have to to think it through, but even so, thats a pretty poor analysis..
here an example, a jedi can mind trick droids..by your logic, that shouldn't be possible, since it is part of the droid's AI, not the "water"
Umm, i think the Force exists in Everything in the SW universe. Even inside things without a Medi count. It's just a part of everything in the SW verse IMO. That's how I've seen it ever since the first time i saw Yoda in the Empire Strikes Back
The speech that made me think of that is 2:40 - 3:13
When he says about how they are more than the body, that is the part that makes me think character from none Star Wars universes cannot be effected by the force.
It's the Soul / Lifestream debate again, or so i see it.
if the force cannot work ouside the SW universe, what's there to suggest that j-cells and the lifestream can work ousitde the FFverse?
which is what makes this kind of argument stupid...its like saying kain cant use his magic, because he's not in nosgoth anymore, but someone like dante can use devil trigger or quicksilver or whatever, even though he isnt in the DMC universe anymore, and this would automatically give dante the win 😬
Originally posted by MadMel
if the force cannot work ouside the SW universe, what's there to suggest that j-cells and the lifestream can work ousitde the FFverse?
which is what makes this kind of argument stupid...its like saying kain cant use his magic, because he's not in nosgoth anymore, but someone like dante can use devil trigger or quicksilver or whatever, even though he isnt in the DMC universe anymore, and this would automatically give dante the win 😬
Well, The Lifestream can't. The Negative lifestream is like ..... i dunno.... a cloud? that Sephiroth controls, apparently it can do stuff but.. I'm not really up on that stuff.
Kain draws magic from himself i believe. Well Burning can explain that if I'm wrong... which i probably am
yea kain does get his power from himself 😛
it was just an example of how unfair a fight would be if suddenly one character was stripped of his power because of something as ridiculous as "the force cannot affect anything outside of SW" argument..its rather like what furion does in every one of his "kain vs" gauntlets
beside, im not entirely sure that theory correct
heres a quote from the "jedi apprentice" series..
...drew on the force, which bound him to all livings things, even his enemy...
Originally posted by EvilAngelYou don't have one seeing you have no idea what the hell your talking about.
You're trying to tell me my opinion now?
Originally posted by EvilAngelFirstly know what the shit your talking about seeing the fact that nihilus in K2 was clearly human.
How do you know if armor is exerting himself?? it can't do facial expression can it?
Originally posted by EvilAngelYes. If you actually read any SW books or actually even played any of the games,
React at lightspeed? I'm not sure what that means exactly, Has a sith ever reacted at lightspeed using TK as their weapon?
Seen the trailer for the force unleashed? Vaders inferior apprentice could use TK to catch tie fighters at lightning speed and crush them as well as pull a friggin star destroyer out of orbit.
Originally posted by EvilAngelTking a large ship > that of TKing a few people while being empowered by the lifestream.
I'm curious, we've seen Sephiroth in FFVII Use his TK on peopel in the manner we're debating. Has DN?
Originally posted by EvilAngelWhy? You want me to keep insulting you? Hell ill take this to PM's if you goad me more.
Ivalice, so uncalled for.
Originally posted by EvilAngelAnd he did this while empowered by the lifestream did he not? Again how is that combat relevant?
I'm confused. Sephiroth TK or 'Wilpower' was strong enough to hold back a force that could destoy the planet.
Originally posted by EvilAngelAgain prove up that the force won't work on him seeing that it worked against beings not connected to the force.Maybe, but His TK is weaker and less impressive that Sephiroths and Force powers won't work on Sephiroth. Shame that means He'd Lose to Sephiroth
Prove up or shut the hell up which you have yet to do either.
Originally posted by EvilAngelCircumstances?
How was he Owning them, then lost?
Originally posted by EvilAngelNo, Did you play the game? Did you read any SW books? Do you know how to debate? No you don't.
Did he chop off a few limbs?
Originally posted by EvilAngelAnd your logic is severely flawed.
Ok. You're Ratios are wrong
Originally posted by EvilAngelDarth vader did, palpatine did darth bane did. All could move at lightning speeds.
Has a Sith Lord Reacted at mach speed with TK as either weapon before?
Originally posted by EvilAngelWho ooo pee friggin do, And darth vader has effortlessly suspended 10 beings and instantly killing them at the same time. Thats a far greater display of TK than your precious sephiroth seeing that if his TK is so almighty, he would have easily killed the party.
People do. Much harder. Sephiroth has shown to TK 8 people, while holding back the Holy.
Hell and Tking a 1.7 km ship is far greater than that of tking a few people
Originally posted by EvilAngelVisas? His apprentice? His ship?
I'm asking if DN has ever been shown to TK a persons body
Originally posted by EvilAngelAnd apparantly it has been stated in novels that medi's generate and connect a being to the force.2. On robots? they have the force within them, just because they have no medi count doesn't mean theres no force there
PROVE that they have the force in them, oh right they don't, they are merely affected by the force.
Again if you actually knew anything about star wars, only living beings have the force in them and emit a force aura.
Originally posted by EvilAngelYou have not proven shit so shut up.
Not been proven.
Originally posted by EvilAngelIF you actually paid attention he said all living things.
That's itUmm, i think the Force exists in Everything in the SW universe. Even inside things without a Medi count. It's just a part of everything in the SW verse IMO. That's how I've seen it ever since the first time i saw Yoda in the Empire Strikes Back
The speech that made me think of that is 2:40 - 3:13
You seriously need to go back to english class.
@Madmel, leave the debate to me, i'll handle this raging hormone fangirl.
Originally posted by MadMelYou could have done MUCH better honestly, it isn't difficult putting down ff7 fanboys, hell its starting to get fun.
i was doing good so far 😛
but yea, its pretty obvious that nobody is listening, so ill let it drop..im getting really sick of debating nowdays...distracts from rping 😬
Originally posted by MadMel
yea kain does get his power from himself 😛
it was just an example of how unfair a fight would be if suddenly one character was stripped of his power because of something as ridiculous as "the force cannot affect anything outside of SW" argument..its rather like what furion does in every one of his "kain vs" gauntlets
beside, im not entirely sure that theory correct
heres a quote from the "jedi apprentice" series..or something to that effect 😬
Yeah it's unfair. But Sephiroth can use him Negative Lifestream to infect the lifestream in other being, which is also unfair in a way.
Well like i said, that video to me says the being connected to the force has something to do with you're soul, or whatever it is, being from that verse. That is what connects you to the force.
Now maybe it's fair enough to say that being from verses with souls can and should be effected by force powers.
But Final Fantasy has Lifestream, which isn't the same. If it were. Then Sephiroth would be about to infect it with Jenova Cells... and from there everything would be screwed.
Lol Ivalice..... you're blocked..... i am not responding to you
Originally posted by EvilAngelIt's good you don't seeing i have owned you for the 4th time, i think its time you stop embarrassing yourself because when you type, you embarrasses nobody but yourself.Lol Ivalice..... you're blocked..... i am not responding to you
Now
Guys please excuse EvilAngel, his/hers/its already low IQ has been decreased even further by all the non-stop sephiroth porn he/she/it has been watching.
Originally posted by Ivalice
It's good you don't seeing i have owned you for the 4th time, i think its time you stop embarrassing yourself because when you type, you embarrasses nobody but yourself.Now
Guys please excuse EvilAngel, his/hers/its already low IQ has been decreased even further by all the non-stop sephiroth porn he/she/it has been watching.
First of all, all that was said was that EvilAngel was not going to respond to you. Your response to that post was unnecessarily long and ridiculous.
Is it of such rare occurance that you own someone that you actually keep the count? Poor thing.
However, it is admirable that you ask nicely for her to shut up, even though you have absolutely no right to make such request, since what EvilAngel is discussing- is an unfair but very valid point.
As for the end, your last line was just pathetic. In case you did not know, IQ can not be decreased by watching porn.
Porn is visual entertainment and does not in any way effect you negative at mind.
In addition, there is not much Sephiroth porn out there- so even if she would want to, she would not be capable of watching it non-stop.
And what is the whole "Please excuse EvilAngel" shit? Even if the person in matter would have low IQ, it is not something that should be apologized. If that would be the case, the low IQ would not be helped and one should simply overlook it, instead of excusing the person. Low IQ or not, one knows what they are giving themselves into when a person starts a debate.
Oh, and by the way. There is nothing EvilAngel has said that indicate low IQ.