Darth Nihilus vs. AC Sephiroth

Originally posted by Becci
First of all, all that was said was that EvilAngel was not going to respond to you. Your response to that post was unnecessarily long and ridiculous.
Is it of such rare occurance that you own someone that you actually keep the count? Poor thing.

However, it is admirable that you ask nicely for her to shut up, even though you have absolutely no right to make such request, since what EvilAngel is discussing- is an unfair but very valid point.

As for the end, your last line was just pathetic. In case you did not know, IQ can not be decreased by watching porn.
Porn is visual entertainment and does not in any way effect you negative at mind.
In addition, there is not much Sephiroth porn out there- so even if she would want to, she would not be capable of watching it non-stop.

And what is the whole "Please excuse EvilAngel" shit? Even if the person in matter would have low IQ, it is not something that should be apologized. If that would be the case, the low IQ would not be helped and one should simply overlook it, instead of excusing the person. Low IQ or not, one knows what they are giving themselves into when a person starts a debate.

Oh, and by the way. There is nothing EvilAngel has said that indicate low IQ.

Yay, Beeci, you're back! hug

I'd ignore Ivalice, he just likes to insult people. If found he really wasn't worth the effort

Originally posted by EvilAngel
Yay, Beeci, you're back! hug

I'd ignore Ivalice, he just likes to insult people. If found he really wasn't worth the effort

As if that took any effort 🙄

If one is to insult another, they should at least try to do it well.

That post of his.... laughable

BECCI!

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. Nihilus has shown mastery of the Force greater than most, his power is greater than that of FFVII in its vastness, he can enslave him.

2. Yet cutting them worked fine. 😬

3. His presence caused it to individuals and enslaved them, and Sephiroth has no training or Force Powers himselve, he won't be able to block it.

1. Get it through your head, Seph avoided being ABSORBED INTO THE LIFESTREAM with his will alone. His will is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then everyone on Nihilus's fleet. Prove Nihlius can enslave someone with a will as powerful as Seph's.

2. Chainmail is vulnerable to stabs, but is shows resistance to Crushing blows. Plate Armor can be damaged by Crushing Blows but is capable of deflecting Slashing and Stabbing blows. 🙂

3. And nothing can stop Seph from shoving Nega-Lifestream up Nihilus's ass and controlling him.

Originally posted by Becci
As if that took any effort 🙄

If one is to insult another, they should at least try to do it well.

That post of his.... laughable

Well that's basically why i've ignored him. I'm not responding to petty insults then getting myself a warning or ban.

Originally posted by Furion
3. And nothing can stop Seph from shoving Nega-Lifestream up Nihilus's ass and controlling him.

I disagree. For the reasons i don't think the force will work on Sephiroth

Originally posted by EvilAngel
Well that's basically why i've ignored him. I'm not responding to petty insults then getting myself a warning or ban.

I disagree. For the reasons i don't think the force will work on Sephiroth

Oh, yeah, agreed then.

If force works on Sephiroth, there is not reason Negative lifestream wouldn't make Nihilus just another puppet

Originally posted by EvilAngel
1. Moving at Lightspeed?

2. ....How about Red, his name... and only 3 letters long. I'll just start making nicknames for all your favourite characters, no problem, since it's obviously nohnig to get worked up about.

3. So DN's Precog sucks? or is just really stupid.

4. Irrelevent point on DN.... why did you even say it.

5. Mechanics fix cars apparently. I know i thought all they did was create car problems then charge you for screwing up your car, but nope.

6. If their not touched, they can't be affected... it think you're understand of it that's wrong IMO. Sure mine ain't gonan be entirely right. But what you just said makes no sense.

2. Fine, Red.

3. No, it was not known by anyone that Wounds in the Force would be immune to that power, he has precog, he is not omniscient.

4. Why did you mention Holy's conciousness.

5. ...And that will help them stop a Porche driving full speed at them...how?

6. No, they are. That is what I have been saying, droids, the Vong(living things) I think they are called, and ships are not touched by the Force or contain any connection to it at all, but a Force user can still affect these things.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. No, been keeping it together while mind controlling and preserving his fleet. His ship during that time went many times faster than lightspeed to get from planet to planet, but it was not in lightspeed constantly, he had to stop to eat planets.

2. Fine, Red.

3. No, it was not known by anyone that Wounds in the Force would be immune to that power, he has precog, he is not omniscient.

4. Why did you mention Holy's consciousness.

5. ...And that will help them stop a Porche driving full speed at them...how?

6. No, they are. That is what I have been saying, droids, the Vong(living things) I think they are called, and ships are not touched by the Force or contain any connection to it at all, but a Force user can still affect these things.

1. Okay... but it seems to me a less impressive feat than holding back aggressive force like holy for a few weeks. At no point was Nihilus battling for his own life in a TK struggle like Sephiroth.

2. If it was real Pecog he would have seen the result of it happening... so that suggest to me it's not true precog.

3. Because it's important to stress than Holy has a mind, a consciousness. It chose what to kill and what to let live. It is alive. It's not some random force or power.

4. Stopping??? what are you talking about, you said putting one together

5. That's like disconnecting your computer from the Internet then having someone hack you. If it's connected in anyway it can be affected. If it not connected it cannot be affected. I'm scared for you. I learnt that in pre-school.

Originally posted by Furion
1. Get it through your head, Seph avoided being ABSORBED INTO THE LIFESTREAM with his will alone. His will is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then everyone on Nihilus's fleet. Prove Nihlius can enslave someone with a will as powerful as Seph's.

2. Chainmail is vulnerable to stabs, but is shows resistance to Crushing blows. Plate Armor can be damaged by Crushing Blows but is capable of deflecting Slashing and Stabbing blows. 🙂

3. And nothing can stop Seph from shoving Nega-Lifestream up Nihilus's ass and controlling him.

2. ...I have a serious question, did you look that up, or are you using the Runescape armor system? Also, prove Sephiroth is immune to crushing or stabbing. 🙂

3. Besides a Force Crush splattering his head?

Originally posted by EvilAngel
1. Okay... but it seems to me a less impressive feat than holding back aggressive force like holy for a few weeks. At no point was Nihilus battling for his own life in a TK struggle like Sephiroth.

2. If it was real Pecog he would have seen the result of it happening... so that suggest to me it's not true precog.

3. Because it's important to stress than Holy has a mind, a consciousness. It chose what to kill and what to let live. It is alive. It's not some random force or power.

4. Stopping??? what are you talking about, you said putting one together

5. That's like disconnecting your computer from the Internet then having someone hack you. If it's connected in anyway it can be affected. If it not connected it cannot be affected. I'm scared for you. I learnt that in pre-school.

2. Look at the circumstances. Nihilus wa suffering from having not fed in a long time, he wasn't thinking rationally, he had to feed, and a powerful Jedi was standing before him, so he took what he saw as his chance and tried to drain him, and it backfired.

3. So is Nihilus' Hunger, it chooses from planets which to devour first, going by Force Sensitives on it.

4. ...No I didn't...

5. It isn't connected at all, the Midichlorians are the only means for a being to be connected to the Force, Droids lack those, they are in no ways connected, which is why powers like Drain Life or Drain Force don't work on them, hell, in KOTOR2, when you receive the Miraluka Eyes which allow you to see the Force, the Droids are blind to you and lack any Force Aura, compared to any living thing.

Chain mail wouldn't help you very a blunt attack, lol. Chain mail is just to protect you from glacing cutting attacks, usually arrows.

Plate is good for everything, but weighs you down, so you're not as agile or can endure as long.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. Battling for your own life would make you fight harder. Also, someone said he was amped by the Lifestream? Do you realise how fast Hyperspace is? If, one were to go at that speed through a planet, the planet would be obliterated. He did this while doing the crap with his crew, all showing no strain.

2. Look at the circumstances. Nihilus wa suffering from having not fed in a long time, he wasn't thinking rationally, he had to feed, and a powerful Jedi was standing before him, so he took what he saw as his chance and tried to drain him, and it backfired.

3. So is Nihilus' Hunger, it chooses from planets which to devour first, going by Force Sensitives on it.

4. ...No I didn't...

5. It isn't connected at all, the Midichlorians are the only means for a being to be connected to the Force, Droids lack those, they are in no ways connected, which is why powers like Drain Life or Drain Force don't work on them, hell, in KOTOR2, when you receive the Miraluka Eyes which allow you to see the Force, the Droids are blind to you and lack any Force Aura, compared to any living thing.

1. Lol, not really, TK requires focus, not desperation.

I have a question, he's holding together and ship... what prove it's his TK that makes them go into Hyperdrive??? I think it's the ships IMO. He's holding them together so they work, or so it sounds. Those crew sound like morons anyway, that part is becomnig less impressive everytime you mention it.

2. Thus he's a junkie who is ruled by his need to get his fix. That makes him look terrible.

3. That's not a concious force, that's Nihilus subconcious.... That's really obvious....

4. he your analogy is pointless, Flip a bus and stop a car moving fast.... what the hell is that even connected to????

5. That logic fails so horribly i can't even understand it. Madmel understood, so i know it's not me thats not making sense.

Originally posted by EvilAngel
1. Lol, not really, TK requires focus, not desperation.

I have a question, he's holding together and ship... what prove it's his TK that makes them go into Hyperdrive??? I think it's the ships IMO. He's holding them together so they work, or so it sounds. Those crew sound like morons anyway, that part is becomnig less impressive everytime you mention it.

2. Thus he's a junkie who is ruled by his need to get his fix. That makes him look terrible.

3. That's not a concious force, that's Nihilus subconcious.... That's really obvious....

4. he your analogy is pointless, Flip a bus and stop a car moving fast.... what the hell is that even connected to????

5. That logic fails so horribly i can't even understand it. Madmel understood, so i know it's not me thats not making sense.

Why are they stupid? They are now, sure, because he wiped their minds to focus only on what their job is(operating the ship, being a guard, etc.) but what makes you think they were stupid before? You have no reason at all to even begin to think that.

2. Irrevelant, your opinion on his character does not discount his power.

3. No, it is, it is stressed several times in the game that the Hunger is a concious force that to an extent controls his actions.

4. Flipping or lifting a bus is the best I could think of to compare to Seph's feat, of basically containing Holy. Compared to stopping the much lighter Porche while it is at top speed.

5. Fails? It isn't logic, it is fact, the Force is only connected to living things, but some Force powers like the TK powers can affect those that do not.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. No, you don't get it, the fact that he is able to hold together a ship while it is in Hyperdrive is the feat, it is much harder to hold something together while it is moving at a faster speed. He holds his ship together because it is a piece of shit that got blasted down in a war, without him holding it together it would fly apart and maybe explode.

Why are they stupid? They are now, sure, because he wiped their minds to focus only on what their job is(operating the ship, being a guard, etc.) but what makes you think they were stupid before? You have no reason at all to even begin to think that.

2. Irrevelant, your opinion on his character does not discount his power.

3. No, it is, it is stressed several times in the game that the Hunger is a concious force that to an extent controls his actions.

4. Flipping or lifting a bus is the best I could think of to compare to Seph's feat, of basically containing Holy. Compared to stopping the much lighter Porche while it is at top speed.

5. Fails? It isn't logic, it is fact, the Force is only connected to living things, but some Force powers like the TK powers can affect those that do not.

1. So he isn't making it go into Hyperdrive using his TK, he's just holding it together while it's in Hyperdrive?

Well, why didn't he mind control the jedi and sith?

2. If i believe it would lead him to make irrational decisions like the one that cost him his life in the first place, it does.

3. Show me

4. The weight ratios of the two are totally out of proportion. If the fleet is a car, the other option would be like Flipping a sky scarper on it's head.

5. No it isn't, what the video i posted and read what i wrote. That makes alot more sense than the shit you're shoveling

Originally posted by EvilAngel
1. So he isn't making it go into Hyperdrive using his TK, he's just holding it together while it's in Hyperdrive?

Well, why didn't he mind control the jedi and sith?

2. If i believe it would lead him to make irrational decisions like the one that cost him his life in the first place, it does.

3. Show me

4. The weight ratios of the two are totally out of proportion. If the fleet is a car, the other option would be like Flipping a sky scarper on it's head.

5. No it isn't, what the video i posted and read what i wrote. That makes alot more sense than the shit you're shoveling

Many of his slaves were Sith. Also, Jedi and Sith, especially the stronger ones that Nihilus fought(while weakened I might add) are more resistant to mind control.

2. He isn't dying from Hunger in this scenario.

3. ...Why does it matter?

4. Okay, I'll do a better one, replace the Porche with an armor piercing sniper's bullet.

5.I did, Yoda said it flows thru all living things, and those things are able to use it to manipulate the world around them, all things I know. Lemme put it this way, the Force was able to affect the Exile, who became dead to the Force, as in it no longer flowed thru her, she regained her powers by forming bonds and, well, leeching off her allies power.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. Yeah, while the ship is moving at speeds that if it were to hit a planet, the planet would be obliterated.

Many of his slaves were Sith. Also, Jedi and Sith, especially the stronger ones that Nihilus fought(while weakened I might add) are more resistant to mind control.

2. He isn't dying from Hunger in this scenario.

3. ...Why does it matter?

4. Okay, I'll do a better one, replace the Porche with an armor piercing sniper's bullet.

5.I did, Yoda said it flows thru all living things, and those things are able to use it to manipulate the world around them, all things I know. Lemme put it this way, the Force was able to affect the Exile, who became dead to the Force, as in it no longer flowed thru her, she regained her powers by forming bonds and, well, leeching off her allies power.

1. Okay I'll bite. What makes you think that? Maybe it's happened, but in physics, the ship would be obliterated, then planet though severely damaged would not be destroyed. Life on it would but, that's a different story.

So Nihilus was controlling the minds of sith and jedi? You're certain they weren't just his servants?

2. You said he's always hungry

3. Because it does have a mind of it's own that makes it different. Can you prove it or can you not?

4. 40 men? they could probably stop it if they all stood in a line. It'd take more than 100 to flip a sky scraper though.

5. Yoda said it's everywhere, it's all around them it flowers though everything. That their being something more to living things connected them to the force, thus allowing them to use it. The Souls of the people in SW verse is what makes them able to use the force, that exists in everything in the SW verse. Droids are within the force, maybe not directly connected to it like living things but it is withing them.

That is not true with being from outside the SW verse

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. It really doesn't matter at this point so I will drop it.

2. ...I have a serious question, did you look that up, or are you using the Runescape armor system? Also, prove Sephiroth is immune to crushing or stabbing. 🙂

3. Besides a Force Crush splattering his head?

So if I took say Doomhammer and smashed it into a man wearing Platemail as hard as I could, It wouldn't even put a dent in it?

Originally posted by Furion
FVCK! HE KNOWS MY SECRET!
Chain Mail is flexible, it offers SOME protection against Hammers and such.

So if I took say Doomhammer and smashed it into a man wearing Platemail as hard as I could, It wouldn't even put a dent in it?

Depends how thick it is. Today you can get 'armor' that can take smashed from sledgehammers. So if it's thick, it probably could take a real beating

Firstly, rather than trying to settle an issue, you started another flame war so my friend prepare to get flamed.

Originally posted by Becci
First of all, all that was said was that EvilAngel was not going to respond to you.

Originally posted by Becci

Your response to that post was unnecessarily long and ridiculous.

How is arguing with FACTS equate to being "ridiculous"?

Originally posted by Becci

Is it of such rare occurance that you own someone that you actually keep the count? Poor thing.

Originally posted by Becci

However, it is admirable that you ask nicely for her to shut up,

Originally posted by Becci

even though you have absolutely no right to make such request,

Originally posted by Becci

since what EvilAngel is discussing- is an unfair but very valid point.

Seriously dude your typing as if your beyond any form of stupidity seeing you have clearly got no idea what you just claimed.

Originally posted by Becci

As for the end, your last line was just pathetic. In case you did not know, IQ can not be decreased by watching porn.

Again since when insults have to be based on facts?

Originally posted by Becci

Porn is visual entertainment and does not in any way effect you negative at mind.
In addition, there is not much Sephiroth porn out there- so even if she would want to, she would not be capable of watching it non-stop.

Originally posted by Becci

And what is the whole "Please excuse EvilAngel" shit?

Originally posted by Becci

Even if the person in matter would have low IQ, it is not something that should be apologized.

Originally posted by Becci

one knows what they are giving themselves into when a person starts a debate.

Originally posted by Becci

Oh, and by the way. There is nothing EvilAngel has said that indicate low IQ.

Originally posted by Becci
As if that took any effort 🙄

If one is to insult another, they should at least try to do it well.

Originally posted by Becci

That post of his.... laughable