Originally posted by Darth ExodusThere is, the anakin who tooled "one of the most powerful jedi in the 25000 year history" was clear minded and dooku was tooled in a minute, thats faster than just about every other saber duel defeat in SW.
Theres no such thing.
Originally posted by Darth ExodusOh but i do, firstly prove revan can beat somebody who mastered form 2 to its highest degree aka the greatests makashi dueler in history.
I disagree.
Originally posted by Ivalice
There is, the anakin who tooled "one of the most powerful jedi in the 25000 year history" was clear minded and dooku was tooled in a minute, thats faster than just about every other saber duel defeat in SW.
And Dooku even realizes that Anakin's is holding back.
Originally posted by Darth Exodus
It so does.
Nope. On korriban your told to run from him and on malachor he says (1st time u beat him) Now you realize the true power of the darkside. As long as the dark places of this world run through the cracks of my flesh, I cannot be killed.
This seems to suggest he only has this power on malachor or at most other darkside worlds like korriban. But even at these to places there is no proof that Sion could survive (or at the least be anything relevant) if he was decapitated. Plus there is no proof he could live if his body is melted or charred.
Originally posted by Darth ExodusYet defeated by an average jedi.
Sion- invincible
Originally posted by Darth ExodusProve their was billions of individuals on the planet liar, its likely only thousands considering the fact that they were stated to be RARE.
Nihilus- unbelievably powerful, able to hold a ship together and has the skill to use the Force on Billions of individuals at the same time
Oh right and from orbit in katarr we merely see a small city which indicates the planet is even smaller than earth and a small city can't house millions or billions of infividuals.
Originally posted by Darth ExodusSo? Its her knowledge which makes her powerful.
Kriea- Also powerful, and can fight with out hands
Originally posted by Darth ExodusAnd how does being a wound in the force make you unbeatable?
Exile- Unlimited, a wound in the Force unbeatable, war hardened
Originally posted by Darth ExodusBig deal, wow he used the star forgem revan > malak by miles.
Malak- able to use star forge and compare with Revan
Originally posted by Darth ExodusNuff said
Exar Kun- Nuff said
Originally posted by Darth ExodusYet was weaker than kun and WHEN did he beat nadd? Oh right its exar kun who beat nadd.
Ulric Qel'Droma- Stood up to Kun and beat That Nadd guy and that Zombie
Originally posted by Darth ExodusRight she seperated somebody whom didn't even care about defending himself.
Nomi Sunrider- able to separate people from the Force and is a powerful jedi in her own right
Originally posted by Darth ExodusCorrect!
I'm just wrong
Anakin in the zone=his duel vs count dooku
During which Dooku was able to totally turn the tables on Anakin with one sentence.
There is, the anakin who tooled "one of the most powerful jedi in the 25000 year history" was clear minded and dooku was tooled in a minute, thats faster than just about every other saber duel defeat in SW.
WTF
that duel was all about how Anakin was constantly eratic and crazy. It even says that he fought with a blind fury and desperation. He keeps talking about a dragon in his heart so Siths sake!!
Originally posted by Darth ExodusI was referring to before katarr.
They were rare BECUASE NIHILUS KILLED THEM ALL.
Originally posted by Darth ExodusProof? Quote? So even AFTER katarr despite visas being the only miraluka left, that means the "rare" atton stated equates to billions?
And rare in galactic terms equates to billions.
Are you actually asking me to quote something about the meaning of the word rare in galactic terms?
Gonna need some time with that one.
Theres no way that Visas was the last Miraluka. The entire race of galaxy spanning aliens wouldn't all be grouped on one world. So unless they ALL had sudden, unexplained heart attacks there are more.
Just not much.
Yet defeated by an average jedi.
The Exile was in no way, shape or form an average.
That was the whole point of the game. That Kriea loved fer becuase of her uniqueness and strength.
WHEN did he beat nadd?
I thought that that was what happened during the Freedon Nadd uprising. Well he beat something pretty darn good.
So? Its her knowledge which makes her powerful.
No it wasn't. She was a damn good boss. Those floating lightsabers were hard as hell and would be very effective during combate.
She could also hide her true features from jedi for an extended amount of time. Much longer than Zannah.
Big deal, wow he used the star forgem revan > malak by miles
He was still able to destroy the Dantooine academy and was a capable jedi in his own right. He was much more powerful than most and still stands out from the crowd as one of the greats.
Also Revan > most people by miles.
Right she seperated somebody whom didn't even care about defending himself.
She was still capable of Force seperation which was my point.
And she was good enough to lead the Jedi.
This seems to suggest he only has this power on malachor or at most other darkside worlds like korriban. But even at these to places there is no proof that Sion could survive (or at the least be anything relevant) if he was decapitated. Plus there is no proof he could live if his body is melted or charred.
His body was charred.
And if he was able to withstand lightsaber blows then he can survive pretty much anything
And it was stated that he held himself together by hate and will- like Anakin so he could just reattach any lost limbs.
We are going WAY of topic so could you all just accept that the KOTOR-era had some greats too so we could continue?
Originally posted by Darth ExodusApparantly she is according to the entire jedi council.
The Exile was in no way, shape or form an average.
That was the whole point of the game. That Kriea loved fer becuase of her uniqueness and strength.
Originally posted by Darth ExodusNo it didn't unless you post a scan to prove me wrong.
I thought that that was what happened during the Freedon Nadd uprising. Well he beat something pretty darn good.
Originally posted by Darth ExodusHard as hell? Gameplay? Any powerful force user can easily disable them with the force or better yet, crush them easily. Hell bane would tool the old *****.
No it wasn't. She was a damn good boss. Those floating lightsabers were hard as hell and would be very effective during combate.
She could also hide her true features from jedi for an extended amount of time. Much longer than Zannah.
Oh and wow she hid herself from jedi, palpatine did it far better and even mind raped billions of people.
Originally posted by Darth ExodusWith technology? As stated by saul?
He was still able to destroy the Dantooine academy
Originally posted by Darth ExodusIn his Era.
and was a capable jedi in his own right. He was much more powerful than most
Originally posted by Darth ExodusYes!
and still stands out from the crowd as one of the greats.
Originally posted by Darth ExodusMost yes, but the power houses? When compared to vader in the OT, revans slightly more powerful, when compared to sidious, he is inferior, when compared to yoda, hes inferior.
Also Revan > most people by miles.
Originally posted by Darth ExodusSo? We have seen an average jedi being able to do it.
She was still capable of Force seperation which was my point.
And she was good enough to lead the Jedi.
Originally posted by Darth ExodusWow so if my bullet proof vest can block a bullet it MUST be able to block an RPG rocket. Great logic. Apparantly no where its stated that orbalisks can block force attacks if that is what you are trying to imply.
And if he was able to withstand lightsaber blows then he can survive pretty much anything
Originally posted by Darth ExodusDude if miralukas existed in the billions, we would have seen them just about every where we go in K2, again prove that they were in the billions.
Are you actually asking me to quote something about the meaning of the word rare in galactic terms?
Gonna need some time with that one.
And yes DO quote something to back you up
Originally posted by Darth ExodusOk, if there were so many miralukas why is it in the entire TOTJ-kotor era we see 2-3 miralukas at most?
Theres no way that Visas was the last Miraluka. The entire race of galaxy spanning aliens wouldn't all be grouped on one world. So unless they ALL had sudden, unexplained heart attacks there are more.
Just not much.
Originally posted by Darth Exodus
During which Dooku was able to totally turn the tables on Anakin with one sentence.
You truly have readings skills comparable to that of a first grader. If you can read the passages. It makes it clear that Dooku is getting overwhelmed and Dooku even says that while Anakin is winning that he (Anakin) was holding back.
Originally posted by Darth Exodus
Sion- invincible
Nihilus- unbelievably powerful, able to hold a ship together and has the skill to use the Force on Billions of individuals at the same time
Kriea- Also powerful, and can fight with out hands
Revan- Nuff said
Exile- Unlimited, a wound in the Force unbeatable, war hardened
Malak- able to use star forge and compare with Revan
Exar Kun- Nuff said
Ulric Qel'Droma- Stood up to Kun and beat That Nadd guy and that Zombie
Nomi Sunrider- able to separate people from the Force and is a powerful jedi in her own rightDO NOT say that the KOTOR lot can't compare. You're just wrong
God, my mistake, scratch Kenobi. When did I ever say the Jedi and Sith from the KOTOR era don't compare? What I said was that there is no Jedi or Sith who compares with Yoda, Mace, and Sidious, not the Jedi and Sith from the PT in general.
Originally posted by Darth Exodus
Sion- invincible
Apparently you didn't play the game.
Nihilus- unbelievably powerful, able to hold a ship together and has the skill to use the Force on Billions of individuals at the same time
He is very powerful indeed, but not enough to defeat Yoda, Mace, Sidious, or Anakin.
Kriea- Also powerful, and can fight with out hands
Don't make me laugh. She was defeated by the Exile, for crhist's sake. Doesn't that tell you how weak she is? She may be a mastermind, but that definitely doesn't mean she was powerful.
Revan- Nuff said
Again, very powerful, not enough to defeat Yoda, Sidious, Mace or Anakin.
Exile- Unlimited, a wound in the Force unbeatable, war hardened
How is he unbeatable? Seems you got it all wrong. He is unbeatable by Nihilus, not by everyone else. He's just an above-average Jedi, that's it. And being war hardened has nothing to do with individual skills.
Malak- able to use star forge and compare with Revan
Please explain me how he was able to compare with Revan, because I don't know about you, but I saw Revan kick his ass, even when he was powered by the Star Forge. Imagine how he would've kicked it if he wouldn't have been powered up. And what does the fact the he was able to use the Star Forge have to do with anything?
Exar Kun- Nuff said
Read above.
Ulic Qel'Droma- Stood up to Kun and beat That Nadd guy and that Zombie
Yeah, he stalemated Kun, but that was before they became Sith Lords... when Kun became a real Sith and gained more knowledge and powers, he was not able to do so again. And, what? Qel-Droma never defeated Freedon Nadd... seems you don't know what you're saying.
Nomi Sunrider- able to separate people from the Force and is a powerful jedi in her own right
How is she a 'powerful Jedi in her own right' ? What did she do to be part of the elite? Oh, right, nothing.
Ok, if there were so many miralukas why is it in the entire TOTJ-kotor era we see 2-3 miralukas at most?
Its the same way that there are tons of Hutts but we still only ever see about 4 in the whole universe.
Wow so if my bullet proof vest can block a bullet it MUST be able to block an RPG rocket.
Apparently you didn't play the game.
I did and I could only ever beat him by mind-raping him
e is very powerful indeed, but not enough to defeat Yoda, Mace, Sidious, or Anakin.
Your not serious are you? You can't be.
In a Force fight Nihilus would smack all of them. Period
Apparantly she is according to the entire jedi council
Only Before the Mandalorian wars.
Afterwards she became a God. If you really don't believe me then talk to some of the guys from KOTOR fan fiction. They can explain it much better than me.
Originally posted by Darth Exodus
Its the same way that there are tons of Hutts but we still only ever see about 4 in the whole universe.Bad analogy. A lightsaber can cut through almost anything. A rocket can't.
I did and I could only ever beat him by mind-raping him
Your not serious are you? You can't be.
In a Force fight Nihilus would smack all of them. PeriodOnly [b]Before
the Mandalorian wars.
Afterwards she became a God. If you really don't believe me then talk to some of the guys from KOTOR fan fiction. They can explain it much better than me. [/B]
No.