EVANGEL94's Final Slugfest Tournament Discussion Thread: Questions, Comments, & Talk

Originally posted by SmurphSmash!
lmao

Don't put words in my mouth because you can't prove shit.

I didn't put any words in your mouth considering when asked the price of drafting a planet by itself you responded

"Considering the planet couldn't even fit inside the field,"

but by all means, continue to lie and post smileys

It's up to you to make a case, not just pretend you have one by drawing completely groundless conclusions from an entirely irrelevant statement to what you're trying to conclude I'm saying.

I'm making my case whereas you're doing nothing but ducking points, contradicting yourself and out and out lying.

Originally posted by SmurphSmash!
So far there is no indication that Planet+Ring > Human+Ring, except they have a bigger and stronger gravitational field... which is easily surpassed by anybody that belongs at 6 points.

How about effortlessly stopping a missile that created a blast wave dozens of miles wide?

Also controlling a fundamental force of nature through simple physical presence. Altering climate on a planetary scale and creating constructs without the Ring . . .

Just playin' devils advocate.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
How about effortlessly stopping a missile that created a blast wave dozens of miles wide?

Also controlling a fundamental force of nature through simple physical presence. Altering climate on a planetary scale....

Just playin' devils advocate.

Who mentioned Storm?

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Who mentioned Storm?

No one, but I'm pretty sure Mogo does have that ability even without the ring.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
How about effortlessly stopping a missile that created a blast wave dozens of miles wide?

Also controlling a fundamental force of nature through simple physical presence. Altering climate on a planetary scale and creating constructs without the Ring . . .

Just playin' devils advocate.

Altering climate? I haven't found much proof of that, other than a mention in his bio. And anyways, this power wouldn't effect anybody at 6 points, and is barely an additional power.

Superman can bust planets, survive planet busting attacks, hold a black hole, fly lightyears in seconds and cause a planet's core to rapidly expand with heat vision alone... but Mogo can move his surface around! Oh noes!

Originally posted by SmurphSmash!

Superman can bust planets

Show some on panel evidence that indicates this.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Show some on panel evidence that indicates this.

But I don't see why I need to. You've made it clear that on panel evidence isn't necessary... only posting "itsplanetzomg!!!" makes cases and wins debates, after all.

Originally posted by SmurphSmash!
I can post plenty of strength and punching feats, if you wish.

Post Superman busting a planet the size of Mogo.

But I don't see why I need to. You've made it clear that on panel evidence isn't necessary... only posting "itsplanetzomg!!!" makes cases and wins debates, after all.

So you're finally agreeing that common sense trumps the fact that Mogo doesn't socialize?

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Post Superman busting a planet the size of Mogo.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
So you're finally agreeing that common sense trumps the fact that Mogo doesn't socialize?

You haven't even given an argument, much less backed it up with reasoning, and there are certainly and obviously no scans to be had, as you constantly dodge the necessity of proof for an argument you haven't even formulated yet.

All you've said it "planet guys oh nooooeeees!"...

Sym did more in one post than you have in this entire thread, and his argument fell short anyways.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Show some on panel evidence that indicates this.

..........

Originally posted by SmurphSmash!
Says the guy who sputters about common sense trumping scans even when he shows an entirely minimal amount of common sense himself...

So, do you have the scans or did you just lie again?

Common sense:

Give Hal Jordan a GL ring he becomes a herald
Give a planet a GL ring with a power source second to OA it becomes _________ (hint:it's something above herald)

You haven't even given an argument, much less backed it up with reasoning

Oh, I have, all you've done is duck, dodge, contradict and lie.

"Considering the planet couldn't even fit inside the field,"

what makes it even acceptable to draft Mogo in the first place?

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Show some on panel evidence that indicates this.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5772411

Originally posted by Blair Wind
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5772411

Superman drilling through a small dead moon = busting a planet?

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
So, do you have the scans or did you just lie again?

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Common sense:

Give Hal Jordan a GL ring he becomes a herald
Give a planet a GL ring it becomes _________ (hint:it's something above herald)

Reasoning... sound it out, look it up in the dictionary. It basically outlines what you entirely lack.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph

You haven't even given an argument, much less backed it up with reasoning

Oh I have, all you've done is duck, dodge and lie.

Then you attempt to back up your hot air and groundless claims with further accusations and half-assed attempts at insults.

Originally posted by SmurphSmash!
crylaugh
Fail. Don't accuse me of lying when I didn't even make a claim.

Claim:
I put words in your mouth

Proof? None.

Claim:

Superman can bust a planet

Proof? None.

Two lies.

Three with that post.

All you've done is sputter about how a planet's use of a GL ring is obviously far superior to Hal Jordan,

Um it's a planet with a GL ring. Give a human a GL ring it becomes a herald, give a planet it becomes higher.

BTW:

"Considering the planet couldn't even fit inside the field,"

what makes it even acceptable to draft Mogo in the first place?

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Claim:
I put words in your mouth

Proof? None.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Claim:

Superman can bust a planet

Proof? None.

Two lies.

Lulz.

You don't have ANYTHING to back up your planet GL > human GL claim, not even common sense, so that must be one gigantic lie right there.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph


All you've done is sputter about how a planet's use of a GL ring is obviously far superior to Hal Jordan,

Um it's a planet with a GL ring. Give a human a GL ring it becomes a herald, give a planet it becomes higher.

Is the planet more skilled? You haven't even addressed the application of reasoning. Just drawn more baseless conclusions.

Your whole lack of argument is just one epic fail.

I shouldn't have to do this debating for you.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
BTW:

"Considering the planet couldn't even fit inside the field,"

what makes it even acceptable to draft Mogo in the first place?

Just drafting him by himself, the field size would be a disadvantage.

Originally posted by SmurphSmash!
Superman can bust planets, survive planet busting attacks, hold a black hole, fly lightyears in seconds and cause a planet's core to rapidly expand with heat vision alone...

I'll remember that if I fight you ermm

Originally posted by SmurphSmash!

I shouldn't have to do this debating for you.
Because, there are ways you can reduce the size given the tourney rules, prep, amalgamation, powers, etc.

Just drafting him by himself, the field size would be a disadvantage.

Originally posted by darthgoober
I don't know Smurph... he might have a point with size issue. The fact that Mogo HAS to be altered before he can be used means that he really shouldn't be eligible for drafting in in the first place because he himself is ineligible. It's kind of a "loophole" way to get him barred but it DOES make sense...

If it wasn't an easy situation to deal with at the start of a battle, I would agree, but the battle could still technically happen even with a planet being squished into the field. Everybody would die, but it would still be a match.

That being said, I can think of MANY people as low as low meta that could survive this situation.

So, I disagree.

Originally posted by SmurphSmash!
Evangel, when I drafted him, simply said she wanted to see where I was going with this. If I can't fit my character inside the field, we could assume he was BFR'd, or everybody in the field is completely crushed.

If it wasn't an easy situation to deal with at the start of a battle, I would agree, but the battle could still technically happen even with a planet being squished into the field. Everybody would die, but it would still be a match.

That being said, I can think of MANY people as low as low meta that could survive this situation.

So, I disagree.