EVANGEL94's Final Slugfest Tournament Discussion Thread: Questions, Comments, & Talk

Started by xmarksthespot76 pages

Originally posted by Devil Lance
The one at the end of the Princes of Darkness arc
Do you mean at the very end of the fight when Mordru is trapped in the Rock of Eternity? Nabu and Shazam helped him to accomplish that and I think he the voice of Nabu in the helm advises him iirc, but as far as I remember the rest was Hector.

I have a question. How many of the people b*tching about how things could be better have actually hosted a successful tourney themselves? The process is a lot more difficult than most of you realize, and there's entirely too many options available in the world of comics to make any tourney system perfect.

If you don't like the tourney format or host then shut the Hell up and don't participate or use those things that you consider "loopholes" yourself and show everyone else the error of their ways. But either way quit f*cking things up for the rest of us...

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Nope.
So on record you won't be using any of Kent Nelson's higher level showings that would put him above his categorization/cost alongside Superman.

Then I see no problem I guess. 🙂

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
So on record you won't be using any of Kent Nelson's higher level showings that would put him above his categorization/cost alongside Superman.

Then I see no problem I guess. 🙂

Good, Kent Nelson is now acceptable by the one person (not in the tourney) voicing his concerns. 🙂

I'm assuming Evangel hosts these tournaments not just for the enjoyment of those participating, but for the enjoyment of the forum as a whole. I'm also assuming she welcomes interest from non-participants as well as participants as they iirc will be voting in this tournament too.

TricksterPriest who is participating, voiced similar concerns earlier anyway.

crylaugh @ Kent Nelson being drafted in the 6 point category.

I think goober summed it up well, though more vehemently than I would've worded it. Everyone would do well to read it, or my post on the last page. And please stop trying to construe every little thing as either an insult, or an opportunity to twist an argument in your favor...and that goes to several people. It IS possible to do this without resorting to underhanded tactics and negativity, and while being respectful.

To my knowledge, no one has ever won a tourney who whined an insulted his way there. And beyond that, I'd kinda like to have a tournament at all.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Do you mean at the very end of the fight when Mordru is trapped in the Rock of Eternity? Nabu and Shazam helped him to accomplish that and I think he the voice of Nabu in the helm advises him iirc, but as far as I remember the rest was Hector.

Yep thats it
but you have to rember Mordru ahd just faced the JSA + tons of other heroes he had to be a little tired out
so hector wasn't facing him at 100%

Originally posted by DigiMark007
I think goober summed it up well, though more vehemently than I would've worded it. Everyone would do well to read it, or my post on the last page. And please stop trying to construe every little thing as either an insult, or an opportunity to twist an argument in your favor...and that goes to several people. It IS possible to do this without resorting to underhanded tactics and negativity, and while being respectful.

To my knowledge, no one has ever won a tourney who whined an insulted his way there. And beyond that, I'd kinda like to have a tournament at all.


Yep we don't want this to be like a certain other tourney last year 🙄

Originally posted by DigiMark007
I think goober summed it up well, though more vehemently than I would've worded it. Everyone would do well to read it, or my post on the last page. And please stop trying to construe every little thing as either an insult, or an opportunity to twist an argument in your favor...and that goes to several people. It IS possible to do this without resorting to underhanded tactics and negativity, and while being respectful.

To my knowledge, no one has ever won a tourney who whined an insulted his way there. And beyond that, I'd kinda like to have a tournament at all.


Sorry about the harshness of it Digi, you know how carried away I can get if I have to suffer fools for too long...

Originally posted by darthgoober
Sorry about the harshness of it Digi, you know how can get carried away if I have to suffer fools for too long...

Not-glad?

sorry had to do it

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Not-glad?

sorry had to do it


Huh?

Originally posted by darthgoober
Huh?

Never heard the phrase "I don't suffer fools gladly" I take it.

Originally posted by darthgoober
I have a question. How many of the people b*tching about how things could be better have actually hosted a successful tourney themselves? The process is a lot more difficult than most of you realize, and there's entirely too many options available in the world of comics to make any tourney system perfect.

If you don't like the tourney format or host then shut the Hell up and don't participate or use those things that you consider "loopholes" yourself and show everyone else the error of their ways. But either way quit f*cking things up for the rest of us...


I understand how difficult it is to run a tourney, but Evangel chose a very untested format, and then basically ignored all input as to how the format could be improved. And now everyone's just trying to fill in the cracks, even if we/they are being a bit rude about it.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Never heard the phrase "I don't suffer fools gladly" I take it.

Oh I've heard it, but I'm a little out of it right now so it didn't register correctly... my badpartytime.

Originally posted by King Kandy
I understand how difficult it is to run a tourney, but Evangel chose a very untested format, and then basically ignored all input as to how the format could be improved. And now everyone's just trying to fill in the cracks, even if we/they are being a bit rude about it.

*Most of the posters not being involved and are just doing it to be difficult.

Originally posted by King Kandy
I understand how difficult it is to run a tourney, but Evangel chose a very untested format, and then basically ignored all input as to how the format could be improved. And now everyone's just trying to fill in the cracks, even if we/they are being a bit rude about it.

I understand, but I don't think she was being nearly as closed to input as you guys think. As you said she's working with a format that's new for EVERYONE, so there are bound to be a few holes in it. She asked repeatedly for someone to actually make a case against the drafts that are being questioned, just like she asked repeatedly for people's input on how the tiers are set up. The problem is that even though people were willing to complain about the characters drafted and what level she set their cost at, no one was really willing to back up anything they were saying with proof. With nothing substantial to suggest that she do otherwise, what other choice does she have than to go with her original call?

And just so you know, this isn't really addressed at you. I've seen you and Evangel go at it a little but that's actually pretty normal for host's and participants(me and batdude got into it a couple of times actually). I'm talking about the guys that've been causing problems intentionally just to be a pain.

Yeah...

Well, back on topic I feel like a sufficient case against Kent Nelson has been made for Evangel to rule on it.

Originally posted by batdude123
crylaugh @ Kent Nelson being drafted in the 6 point category.

Its just Kent Nelson, no helm of fate for you 😠 Or else its just the most recent Dr. Fate as the rules apply.

If it's current, he just has the helmet, I think. I haven't been reading up on Dr. Fate.