EVANGEL94's Final Slugfest Tournament Discussion Thread: Questions, Comments, & Talk

Originally posted by SmurphSmash!
So, now to the core of why you have no argument.

I was saying that Hal/Kyle's use of the ring dwarfs that of most other humans.

So, feel free to explain how Mogo can use the ring more adequately than either of them.

He's a living planet with the second greatest powersource next to OA who's size makes it perfectly capable of recreating planet size constructs.

ok, if mogo is allegedly lesser than the famous gl's and the issue of his volume is resolved, i think its time for smurph to give us his 1 main problem with mogo and wait for your 1 answer.

nevermind....hehhe

then the only solution for this argument is the deus ex machina aka evangel94

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
He's a living planet with the second greatest powersource next to OA who's size makes it perfectly capable of recreating planet size constructs.

It's all in willpower, skill, creativity, experience, and overall ability.

Lemme see... I have consistently pointed this out, while you have addressed... none of them.

Originally posted by SmurphSmash!
His size has nothing to do with the size of constructs he can make...

When has a non rookie Green Lantern been unable to make a construct relative to their size?

And thus the parroting/asking to prove a negative will commence in

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Originally posted by Papa Smurph
When has a non rookie Green Lantern been unable to make a construct relative to their size?

Perhaps all rookie GLs can make humanoid-sized constructs tops? Mogo, while able to exceed that, is still not proven to be able to go beyond the likes of Hal, Kyle, etc.

Body size has never been relative to ring control. Lulz.

Also, try to answer all points and not just avoid the ones you know you can't.

Willpower, creativity, expierience, intelligence, overall ability... you still can't even quote it because you know you have no argument. I can't even ask you for proof if you won't even address it out of cowardice.

I think I figured out why you recruited mogo, not bad.
I will keep it to myself.

Lets stop with the bitchin. Seriously its just a tournament, based on comic books.

Or simply wait, build up this anger and vent it out in a match. 😮‍💨

Originally posted by SmurphSmash!
Since when were most GL's the size of Mogo?

Which is why Mogo's so deadly.

Humanoid GL = 6 points
Planet Gl = > 6 points

When has a GL failed at creating a construct relative to it's size? How many other planet GL's are there? Being able to create planetary sized constructs with the same amount of ease Hal Jordan would have creating a Hal Jordan sized construct is 6 points?

Willpower, creativity, expierience, intelligence, overall ability... you still can't even quote it because you know you have no argument

Planet older then any other GL + GL ring + Second to OA power + common sense = argument.

But I disgress

Feats > Common sense

I love how asking to prove a negative is a quality argument to SmurphSmash

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Which is why Mogo's so deadly.

Humanoid GL = 6 points
Planet Gl = > 6 points

When has a GL failed at creating a construct relative to it's size? How many other planet GL's are there?

Do the Guardians hand out the most potent rings to the fat GL's, so that they can make something close to size?

Does gaining weight make you gain willpower?

Does extra mass mean extra skill with the ring?

Batman couldn't do jack shit with the ring. He wasn't qualified to use it. He wasn't able to make something his size. Thusly, it's all in how qualified you are... and you haven't even addressed if Mogo is as qualified as Hal or Kyle.

Planet older then any other GL + GL ring + Second to OA power + common sense = argument.

Willpower + Creativity + Intelligence + Experience with the ring + Overall ringwielding ability = argument.

But I digress.

Supposition, lack of argument and hot air > common sense and feats.

Originally posted by SmurphSmash!
When has it been stated that personal size means anything?

And I'm the one ducking arguments? When has a GL been unable to make a construct relative to size?

Do the Guardians hand out the most potent rings to the fat GL's, so that they can make something close to size?

What? A fat GL wouldn't be that much bigger then a skinny GL, especially compared to a planet.

Does gaining weight make you gain willpower?

Are you comparing an extra 50 pounds to a extra 50 sextillion tons?

Batman couldn't do jack shit with the ring. He wasn't qualified to use it. He wasn't able to make something his size.

Batman is a Green Lantern?

Thusly, it's all in how qualified you are... and you haven't even addressed if Mogo is as qualified as Hal or Kyle.

Hal and Kyle are responsible for using their power to assign rings? Or did Mogo get this job because of his lack of feats and power?

Willpower + Creativity + Intelligence + Experience with the ring + Overall ringwielding ability = argument.

Yeah and common sense, is (not so) strangely absent from this equation.

Supposition, lack of argument and hot air > common sense and feats.

Common sense says a Green Lantern that's a planet > Green Lantern that's a human. I don't even know how you can argue this with a straight face.

You guys are seriously taking the whole Mogo/GL debate thing a bit to far. I don’t think no one cares anymore.

I don't, tbh it's just pretty entertaining (to me) to watch Smurph ask me to prove a negative and duck points/contradict self.

But I'll stop since you asked nicely.

Originally posted by id369
You guys are seriously taking the whole Mogo/GL debate thing a bit to far. I don’t think no one cares anymore.

That's fairly obvious. He's been asked multiple times to stop, and hasn't. If it's entertaining to Stacks, he's the only one.

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Much more pertinent is that we're pretty sure Evangel is done with the tournament for reasons stated earlier. Just putting that out there, because it will require some sort of reaction, either stopping the tournament entirely or taking it in a new direction with a new host.

In either case, hold off on making those plans just yet while we try to get confirmation.

This tournament will continue. I will not abandon any tournament I run.

Anyone who hasn't finished drafting must do so today. Those who are not done drafting will be cut off and removed from the tournament.

Good to hear that. Now let's keep things civil and not pitch a fit to Evangel every time something doesn't go our way, which includes endless PMs that easily overwhelm even the best tourney directors. We owe that much to both the director as well as our fellow participants.

Originally posted by SmurphSmash!
You haven't even stated what being a sentient planet gives him.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Ever read any Ego the living Planet stories?

I believe Thor used his Godblast to beat him?

Anyway, please stop asking about Mogo, I will post my thoughts and ruling on him later today after I've gathered and seen all the evidence.

I believe you objected to metron, deadman, and the doctor being 6's. I'd like to hear your thoughts on them.