Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Here, let's dead the argumentEvangel are powers determined by who's body and mind you are using?
Or do mergers automatically get all the powers from those amalgamated that don't stack (as well as the ability to use them as well as their amalgamated partners).
Will I need to specify that my body is Hulk's to get his strength and such
or is it assumed that with my body being Kent's he obtains Hulk's strength and such.
Well... I don't what the issue is. Just have Dr. Fate's mind in Hulk's body. You would have Hulk's powers, Dr. Fate's magic powers and Dr. Fate's mind to use them.
If Dr. Fate get's mad in battle, then you can argue that his body (aka Hulk's body) get's physically stronger.
Originally posted by Evangel94
I believe Thor used his Godblast to beat him?Anyway, please stop asking about Mogo, I will post my thoughts and ruling on him later today after I've gathered and seen all the evidence.
I believe you objected to metron, deadman, and the doctor being 6's. I'd like to hear your thoughts on them.
I'll paste this from my team-post in the draft thread. It's a summation of my defense of the Doctor, since Kandy mentioned him:
Originally posted by DigiMark007
....As for the Doctor, Stacks' universe-creation claim was incorrect, Classic Strange is roughly his equal and is being allowed for 6 points, and I'd remind everyone that he might not get wins in a heads-up match against Classic Strange, Fate, Mogo, possibly even my own Thor. And a lot of his "deus ex machina" powers are only available through purchases that are too expensive for me to afford. If anyone has further complaints, I'm willing to discuss it, but that should lay the matter to rest.
Also, if Kandy has problems with Doctor at 6, I have problems with Classic Strange at 6.
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So the cat-fight might be best avoided, no?
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Originally posted by King Kandy
My objection to Metron is that his Mobius chair seems a bit to powerful for this category. Deadman I have no objection to, he's really useless without mind control. I never objected to the Doctor in the first place, but he does seem to powerful.
What are the powers of his mobius chair? Even though I know a wikipedia link is posted, I prefer to hear it from an experienced user who knows of the character.
Everyone I want your opinion on this. Your opinion will determine whether or not I act. I am thinking of changing Darkseid from "Darkseid as seen in the last three years" to "Post-Crisis Darkseid" for 20 points.
No, I am not accepting new submissions for 10 and 20 point categories. Just simply changing one that is currently in the roster. Its just an idea, and I want to see everyone's opinion on it.
-Evangel94
1 Point – Street Class:
“no superhuman powers with no enhanced meta-level or higher gadgets/devices”
Batman, Black Panther, Captain America, Daredevil, Nightwing, Black widow, Green Arrow, Hawkeye, etc2 Points – Meta Class:
“above Batman, Black Panther, Captain America, but below Iron Man”
Spiderman, Cyclops, Angel, Mr. Fantastic, Beast, Gambit, Venom, Carnage, Jubilee, various X-men (check with me), Mystique, etc4 Points – Enhanced Meta Class:
Spider-Man to Power Girl/War Machine (included here is Aquarian)
Various “Regular” Iron Man Armors and various remote controlled armors, Dr. Doom, War Machine, Warbird, Non-phoenix Jean Grey, Storm, Colossus, Thing, Human Torch, She-Hulk, etc5 Points – Prime Meta Class:
Extremis Iron Man, Hulkbuster Iron Man, Wonder Woman, Absorbing man, Professor Xavier (in wheel chair), Vision, All incarnations of Hulk (except World War Hulk), Clone Thor aka Clor, Hercules, Exemplars (Regular Juggernaut, Bedlam, Conquest, Carnivore, Inferno, and Tempest)6 Points – Herald Class:
Flash, Ultron, She-Ultron, Sentry, Green Lanterns and Sinestro Corps members, World War Hulk, All Heralds of Galactus (except Morg with Waters of Life), (non-Casey) Majestic, Thor, Current Superman, Warlock (automatically comes with soul gem), Engineer, Grey Gargoyle, Mimic, Rogue, Super-Adaptoid, The Exemplar “Stonecutter”, and 8th Day Juggernaut, etc10 Points – Enhanced Herald Class: you may choose only among the following:
Apocalypse, Champion (no gem), Count Nefaria, Despero, Graviton, and Thanos (pre-resurrection). Included in this category are the following Infinity Gems (Mind Gem, Power Gem, and Space Gem. The soul gem comes automatically with Warlock, and you cannot pick the soul gem by itself. Reality and Time Gems are banned).20 Points – Prime Herald/Low Skyfather Class: you may choose only among the following:
Amazo, Darkseid (as he has appeared in the last 3 years), Doomsday (Hunter/Prey), Fernus, Galactus (starving, e.g., FF #243), Hela, Morg with Waters of Life and Power Cosmic, Pluto (Marvel), Runner (no gem).
Originally posted by Evangel94
Well... I don't what the issue is. Just have Dr. Fate's mind in Hulk's body. You would have Hulk's powers, Dr. Fate's magic powers and Dr. Fate's mind to use them.If Dr. Fate get's mad in battle, then you can argue that his body (aka Hulk's body) get's physically stronger.
Kool but could I just draft Hulk's mind in Hulk's body and retain knowledge of Fate's magic? I'd rather have Hulk's mind because
Fate's a pretty brutal dude, but he's no Hulk.
Originally posted by Evangel94
What are the powers of his mobius chair? Even though I know a wikipedia link is posted, I prefer to hear it from an experienced user who knows of the character.
Metron created the technology known as the boom tube. The chair is just an improved version of that. It has a few other powers, but it's mainly just a means of transportation.
And I drafted him, because he's the greatest inventor of the new gods.
Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Kool but could I just draft Hulk's mind in Hulk's body and retain knowledge of Fate's magic? I'd rather have Hulk's mind becauseFate's a pretty brutal dude, but he's no Hulk.
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelllll......Be my guest. 🙂
#6 Each team is allowed only one amalgam. These cannot be pre-existing amalgams from cross-overs. They are your own home-made amalgam. Amalgam combinations from the comics, e.g.Doom/Surfer, will not necessarily be like how they appeared in the comics. Amalgam powers are not cumulative, i.e., merging Wonder Man and Wonder Woman does not give you CL 200 strength; you are simply whoever is the strongest in their respective power categories. You must designate whose mind and body the amalgam possesses. All amalgams will have full knowledge of how to use all their powers.
#2 Characters will act in-character. If character nature dictates it, there can be in-fighting amongst team members despite the motivation. Warlock will only use the soul suck as a last resort against a ruthless villain who is killing his teammates, never on a hero. Same with Blackbolt’s scream or Thor’s godblast.
The mind being specified is there because different minds have different fighting styles, and preferences. I am not sure how often Hulk would use Dr. Fate's magic since he prefers to just hit people, especially World War Hulk. He may know he has magic powers, but he may just prefer to hit people instead.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Metron created the technology known as the boom tube. The chair is just an improved version of that. It has a few other powers, but it's mainly just a means of transportation.And I drafted him, because he's the greatest inventor of the new gods.
If you are just using him because of his inventing skill then I don't mind. Also, be aware of additional costs. However, if King Kandy is objecting to that knowledge being above Herald level...
Also, are you objecting to Darkseid from past three years to Post-Crisis Darkseid or approving of it? And do you have any plans on using him?
Updated List of Participants
Tournament Director and Host: Evangel94Emergency Sub-Directors: Badabing
1. King Kandy
2. Devil Lance
3. Papa Smurph
4. Darthgoober
5. Symmetric Chaos
6. Capt Spaulding - will be dropped by end of today if they do not draft.
7. SmurphSmash!
8. Tony Stark
9. Mr.Biscuits - will be dropped by end of today if they do not draft.
10. Psycho Gundam
11. id369
11. TricksterPriest
12. Creshosk
13. Digimark007
14. Evangel94 - Casual matches only
If anyone knows of Capt Spaulding or Mr. Biscuits, then you could you please remind them to draft if they are still intending to participate. I have already sent reminders to both of them.
Originally posted by Evangel94
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelllll......Be my guest. 🙂The mind being specified is there because different minds have different fighting styles, and preferences. I am not sure how often Hulk would use Dr. Fate's magic since he prefers to just hit people, especially World War Hulk. He may know he has magic powers, but he may just prefer to hit people instead. [/B]
Eh you have a point
Guess I'll go with Kent's mind in Hulk's body.
I mean Kent does have a higher body count then Hulk (well at least World War, thanks Cho) nowadays
Originally posted by Evangel94
If you are just using him because of his inventing skill then I don't mind. Also, be aware of additional costs. However, if King Kandy is objecting to that knowledge being above Herald level...Also, are you objecting to Darkseid from past three years to Post-Crisis Darkseid or approving of it? And do you have any plans on using him?
I object to the characterization of his intelligence as above 'herald level'. I wasn't aware there was an intelligence cap. 🙄
So I'll ignore that part, since he has no basis to attack me on it and I'm taking the mobius chair as standard equip.
I have my own reasons for drafting who I did, and there is a method to this madness. 😉
Originally posted by Evangel94
The mind being specified is there because different minds have different fighting styles, and preferences. I am not sure how often Hulk would use Dr. Fate's magic since he prefers to just hit people, especially World War Hulk. He may know he has magic powers, but he may just prefer to hit people instead.
What is the effect of the body choice?