Jedi/Sith vs. Superman?

Originally posted by Faunus
Good job completely ignoring the point. You're entire argument hinges on Superman being powerless. If that is the case, this thread is [b]worthless.

Got it? [/B]

READ IT AGAIN.

Originally posted by Janus Marius
No, it's pretty much ANY yellow sun. And really, Jedi cannot defend against faster-than-light movement because their attunement only lets them see a little bit into the future. It doesn't make them faster-than-light themselves.

Really, do you see Obi-Wan defending against someone this fast?

Especially against someone strong enough to move planets?

Read this article carefully:

http://www.howstuffworks.com/kryptonite.htm

Originally posted by Cryo
It's just light, and Superman gets power from the sun, so the lightsaber could be a refreshing lamp or it would just burn off his clothes, like in Superman 2, but it wouldn't hurt him.
He uses lasers (his own heat vision) to shave himself, so the best the lightsaber could do would to singe his chest hair, or give him a nice shave down there.
Jedis can't actually cut through "everything" with the sword. Example: the big huge door in Episode I. They had to jam in their lightsabers and "melt" a doorway inside the door. The sword was fast to go into the door because they applied all the force to the tip, but was slow cutting because the Jedis are only so strong. Picture you cutting through a watermelon. In the same principle, a lightsaber technically might be able to cut through Superman, but there's nobody strong enough to force it through. Unless you somehow get the Hulk to use a lightsaber. But the Hulk doesn't exist.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Nice job of saying just what the article said here http://gizmodo.com/351747/can-a-lightsaber-cut-through-superman and claiming it as your own. wanker .....copy/paste much?

rogue jedi, i would say we won this debate.
as you see, none of these superman fanboys have responded
to my argument about killing superman from the inside
with the force
they all wanna talk about penetration from the outside of the skin
as if jedi only have a lightsaber and force shock
the infinitude of the force destroys superman

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Here we go again with the FASTER THAN LIGHT bullshit. Doesnt matter, a Jedi will sense the attack and KNOW what is gonna happen BEFOREHAND.

Oh yes and that's really going to help them. Care to explain then, why Jedi are killed so easily by simple drodis with guns? If they're soo good then how come seven of them couldn't defeat Greivous, a simple droid? Why three of the top Jedi in the order get tooled in seconds by one old man? Where was this super precog that allowed them to defend themselves against their own clone allies shooting them in the backs?
Suprman could solo the CIS and Galactic Empire in minutes.

There is a fight scene between Luke and an assassin droid named Guri who moves like lightning, faster than the human eye can see.

Faster then the eye can see does not = lightspeed. When you fire a bullet out of a gun it's moving faster then your eye can see. Faster then the eye does not = faster then light. Learn simple science.

Also, Superman has NO CHANCE unless he is on a planet near the sun. If Superman were to travel to Coruscant, he would be an ordinary man with NO POWERS.

You don't even read the comics do you?

Remember in Superman II when Superman got his ass kicked by a lowly trucker? And when Luthor pwned him in Superman returns by using kryptonite? We have all seen what Superman is with no powers, he is LESS than an average man, with NO fighting skills. NONE. A Jedi can be ANYWHERE and retain their force powers, because the force draws off of life.

Remember how the movies aren't even in the same continuity as the CANON Superman, the comic one?

And an you honestly see Superman blowing up a planet that the Jedi is on? And unless the planet were Earth, he would not have the capability to do so anyways.

Again, read the comics before saying anything. This makes you look ignorant.

I think this debate for Rogue Jedi is entirely on wether or wether not a light saber will hurt superman. So let's just focus on that.

Superman can live into the sun right? Which is how hot?

A lightsaber took some time the cut through the metal doors in SW: Episode 1.

From that i believe it's fair to assume that superman wouldn't really be affected by a lightsaber.... no?

BUT T3H SUPES IS POWERLESS WITHOUT TEH SUN!

That's why he's able to live in and move blackholes.

wow this has got serious. if jedi or so powerful why did they almost get wiped out by droids in the arena on genosis? Superman would have incenarated all of those droids with one blast of heat vision. or could have picked up the whole arena and chucked it like yesterdays trash.

About the whole force abilities on superman. I'm sure that somewhere in the comics sups. had to have face some1 with similar tk/psychic powers like a jedi/sith or some1 with lightning. Can any1 enlighten me on the results.

He powered right through them and crushed them.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
He powered right through them and crushed them.

Originally posted by EvilAngel
I think this debate for Rogue Jedi is entirely on wether or wether not a light saber will hurt superman. So let's just focus on that.

Superman can live into the sun right? Which is how hot?

A lightsaber took some time the cut through the metal doors in SW: Episode 1.

From that i believe it's fair to assume that superman wouldn't really be affected by a lightsaber.... no?

There is the kryptonite argument.

There is the argument of where they will be fighting. If superman doesnt have the rays emitted from the sun giving him power, he is just another mortal.

Another thing, remember when Dooku held Annie in midair in ROTS? Who is to say he cant do the same to superman? Is superman somehow immune to this?

And another thing, someone earlier mentioned Vaders choke hold, and crushing internal organs. All a Jedi needs is a piece of green kryptonite, get close to superman, and its all over.

Tell me, honestly, superman without his powers vs. a Jedi with ALL of his powers, who is gonna win? hmm?

Originally posted by Man of Christ
rogue jedi, i would say we won this debate.
as you see, none of these superman fanboys have responded
to my argument about killing superman from the inside
with the force
they all wanna talk about penetration from the outside of the skin
as if jedi only have a lightsaber and force shock
the infinitude of the force destroys superman

First off none of you have even thought to try and counter Man of Christs aurgument of using the force to crush Superman, why becase the force crushes him.

secondly, Superman gets his power from yellow Sun which has a specific light wavelength and frequency, lets see if you drown out the light from the sun and replace it whith that of ANY other color and "BAM" superman is powerless.

also being able to move faster than light is kingd of useless against a jedi/Sith, they have something called precoagnition which they know where he is going to be before superman does, authough it my only be a few milliseconds a well trianed and expireinced force user can and will be able to react.

Thirdly, the jedi who died at geonosis where mostly what appeared to be padawans, the expireinced jedi such as Mace Windu had no problem in deflecting and destroying the droids.

One question, does Superman have an advanced brain or a normal one, and I want PROOF not a IMO.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
Oh yes and that's really going to help them. Care to explain then, why Jedi are killed so easily by simple drodis with guns? If they're soo good then how come seven of them couldn't defeat Greivous, a simple droid? Why three of the top Jedi in the order get tooled in seconds by one old man? Where was this super precog that allowed them to defend themselves against their own clone allies shooting them in the backs?

Suprman could solo the CIS and Galactic Empire in minutes.

Faster then the eye can see does not = lightspeed. When you fire a bullet out of a gun it's moving faster then your eye can see. Faster then the eye does not = faster then light. Learn simple science.

You don't even read the comics do you?

Remember how the movies aren't even in the same continuity as the CANON Superman, the comic one?

Again, read the comics before saying anything. This makes you look ignorant.

I don't think any Jedi is beating Superman. They can't fight at his speeds.

Originally posted by Spartan 063
First off none of you have even thought to try and counter Man of Christs aurgument of using the force to crush Superman, why becase the force crushes him.

secondly, Superman gets his power from yellow Sun which has a specific light wavelength and frequency, lets see if you drown out the light from the sun and replace it whith that of ANY other color and "BAM" superman is powerless.

also being able to move faster than light is kingd of useless against a jedi/Sith, they have something called precoagnition which they know where he is going to be before superman does, authough it my only be a few milliseconds a well trianed and expireinced force user can and will be able to react.

Thirdly, the jedi who died at geonosis where mostly what appeared to be padawans, the expireinced jedi such as Mace Windu had no problem in deflecting and destroying the droids.

One question, does Superman have an advanced brain or a normal one, and I want PROOF not a IMO.

They are REACHING now.

First off I'm gonna admit i am no fan of the superman comics or most superhero comics that much. And I love star wars a 1000x more. But I am looking at this thread as fair and as objectively as possible. There is a level of fanboyism and spite i see in this thread. I will try to clear up a few things of fanboyism.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
There is the kryptonite argument.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi

There is the argument of where they will be fighting. If superman doesnt have the rays emitted from the sun giving him power, he is just another mortal.

All a Jedi needs is a piece of green kryptonite, get close to superman, and its all over.

Tell me, honestly, superman without his powers vs. a Jedi with ALL of his powers, who is gonna win? hmm?

Originally posted by Spartan 063

also being able to move faster than light is kingd of useless against a jedi/Sith, they have something called precoagnition which they know where he is going to be before superman does, authough it my only be a few milliseconds a well trianed and expireinced force user can and will be able to react.

Thirdly, the jedi who died at geonosis where mostly what appeared to be padawans, the expireinced jedi such as Mace Windu had no problem in deflecting and destroying the droids.

I have said my piece now and try to look at this objectively because from I have read there is a degree of fanboyism/spite.

Originally posted by Elite Hunter
First off I'm gonna admit i am no fan of the superman comics or most superhero comics that much. And I love star wars a 1000x more. But I am looking at this thread as fair and as objectively as possible. There is a level of fanboyism and spite i see in this thread. I will try to clear up a few things of fanboyism.

Except the jedi/sith have knowledge whatsoever of kryptonite and using it/giving it to the jedi/sith makes this a spite thread

Than there would be no point to this thread at all if he doesn't have all his powers

Already addressed there is zero chance the jedi/sith know about it and by giving it to them makes this a spite thread

No point to this thread if sups. doesn't have his powers no is there?

Precognition is fallible. Revan was suppose to have remarkable precognition skills yet he couldn't see/predict Malak's betrayal,the emperor had an amazing gift of precognition/foresight yet couldn't predict the events of endor accurately. Grievous killed/fought dozens of experienced jedi who quite possibly had the skill of precognition yet either he killed them or escaped.

Im pretty certain that more that just padawans died there furthermore throughout the clone wars jedi were gunned down by droids .

I have said my piece now and try to look at this objectively because from I have read there is a degree of fanboyism/spite.