Trance Kuja vs. AC Sephiroth

Started by Furion18 pages

Originally posted by 123KID
shame the Lifestream isn't in this fight and doesn't have any relation to Kuja
just like the Force and Sephiroth
your own logic has screwed you

I don't give a damn about the force. It blows up Meteor, and it will damn well blow up Kuja.

except, if the Force isn't here, neither is Lifestream
just using what you all argued

Lulz, double standards ftl.

The argument was originally that force only works on people connected to the force, lifestream can destroy all matter

Well...the argument was wrong. 🙂

I am not sure who wins here tbh. Kid, what are some T Kuja speed feats?

Originally posted by Terryc250
You also have to consider that terra had no powerful opponents to oppose kuja, AC Sephiroth can do the same thing to the planet if Cloud is not there to oppose him

Fixed.

It's all about his underestimation of Cloud, really.

About the Negative Lifestream... Sephiroth created it, can control it, and is conected to it. In a battle, it is a part of him, like the Masamune.

What we were talking about Nihilus, is that he couldn't drain the life(the Force) out of Sephiroth, because he isn't connected to it. And some of Nihilus attacks were not useful too, because Seph needed Midichlorians(sp)/the Force, to be affected.
The same is not applyed to the Lifestream. It's a force of destruction and can affect anything connected to it or not. Magic can affect anything too, and the Lifestream is the source of magic.

Actually, only the Drain could not be used, any other attack could.

as for Kuja's speed feats he apparently beat the Invincible back to Gaia after destroying Terra and then after that he crossed dimensions to the Crystal World where the universe was formed from
all under his own power and i guess through flight

Originally posted by 123KID
except, if the Force isn't here, neither is Lifestream
just using what you all argued

WTF. Why the hell would the force be here. You make no sense. Is Kuja force-sensitive? Seph summons Lifestream and blows up Kuja.

except there's no lifestream here
just like there's no Force here
both are outside powers that course through all living things but aren't included in fights here according to people in the Nihilus vs. Sephiroth topic
you're the one who makes no sense by saying there's no Force but there is a Lifestream

Ummmm Lifestream is very different to the force. Seph can use the Nega- lifestream as a weapon. Where the hell does this battle take place anyway.

On neutral grounds, Lifestream is Sephiroths weapon and will work against anyone, Force-Drain is something that only applies to things connected to the force. Lifestream destroys all matter.

it's not a Force Drain what Nihilus does
people need to stop spreading that BS

and i heard people argue Nihilus couldn't TK Sephiroth because he's not in the Force.....

anyway, Kuja Ultima for the win

Kuja can't even hurt Sephiroth(intangibility)!

Seph crush him with TK. Or he simply speedblitz Kuja(opening a portal to the Crystal World have nothing to do with speed, sorry).

Speedblitz FTW. Intangibility + Telekinesis FTW.

Sephiroth FTW.

How does Kuja win?

Originally posted by SHM
Kuja can't even hurt Sephiroth(intangibility)!

Seph crush him with TK. Or he simply speedblitz Kuja(opening a portal to the Crystal World have nothing to do with speed, sorry).

Speedblitz FTW. Intangibility + Telekinesis FTW.

Sephiroth FTW.

1. Too bad SEPHIROTH has never shown it, JENOVA has.

2. His TK is pathetic honestly, he TKed some people and the top of a building, and he is gonna TK a Megaflare tanking being like Kuja(and that was normal Kuja). And don't even say Sephiroth's TK is more powerful than Megaflare. Speedblitz I can't really comment on.

Too bad Sephiroth is Jenovah wiseass.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. Too bad SEPHIROTH has never shown it, JENOVA has.

Too bad Sephiroth's body in AC/ACC, is 100% Jenova.

2. His TK is pathetic honestly, he TKed some people and the top of a building, and he is gonna TK a Megaflare tanking being like Kuja(and that was normal Kuja). And don't even say Sephiroth's TK is more powerful than Megaflare.

Telekinesis, is when you use your mental power to affect the physical world. Pushing things, holding things... Like he was doing with Holy.

If Sephiroth use the power he was using on Holy, against Kuja, it's all over.

And about the Megaflare... It didn't hit Kuja directly. It was close, but not a direct hit.
But Bahamut Sin's Megaflare hit Cloud directly, he didn't even bleed, and he is still much weaker than Sephiroth.
And don't even say FFIX Bahamut is a city-buster. He would have destroyed the Iifa Tree and Alexandria in one shot, if that was the case.

Speedblitz I can't really comment on.

And that's what he needs to win the battle.
Can you imagine Sephiroth fighting a statue? In this case, the "statue" is Kuja.

I repeat:

Speedblitz FTW. Intangibility + Telekinesis FTW.

And Sephiroth FTW.

Masamune, his speed, and the ability to fly. That's all Sephiroth needs.

I believe its been officially stated that Trance Kuja is strongest FF villain of all time (sephiroth merged with jenova being 3rd)

1st: trance kuja
2nd: time compressed ultimacia
3rd: Jenova merged Sephiroth
4th: god kefka (interesting... ud think he wudda been higher)

So, Magic Lifestream still blows up Kuja.