Originally posted by Phantom ZoneI doubt that's what you meant with all your emo hippy pseudoscience crap.
Right so he cant obtain tech to increase his intelligence in 200 years?
He'd have to build it himself, which he lacks the intelligence to. Oh snap! Catch-22. But let's just make up outlandish claims like recreating the Infinity Gauntlet because 200 sounds such a big number.
Or steal some pre-existing technology, of which I'm unaware right now.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I doubt that's what you meant with all your emo hippy pseudoscience crap.
No thats exactly what I meant.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
He'd have to build it himself, which he lacks the intelligence to. Oh snap! Catch-22.Or steal some pre-existing technology, of which I'm unaware right now.
He has 200 years......
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Right so he cant obtain tech to increase his intelligence in 200 years?The High evolutinary invested time in intelligence increasing tech, he has highier intelligence.
Let's just forget the fact that he was genious to begin with. 😉
Originally posted by Phantom Zone"But let's just make up outlandish claims like recreating the Infinity Gauntlet because 200 sounds such a big number."
He has 200 years......
Lulz, Punisher = HE.
You're coming up with a whole lot of things that make it seem like you think pretty much anyone with 200 years prep can beat DC Earth.
Spider-Man with 200 years prep? Spider-Man recreates a cosmic cube.
Daredevil with 200 years prep? Daredevil becomes a hyperintelligent Dr Strange.
Originally posted by jinzin
lol, so you DO think Punisher's a regular Imperiex type! 😱Let's just forget the fact that he was genious to begin with. 😉
Nope but he has 200 years and actually has some knowledge of at least Shield tech because he has to infiltrate them at times.....and 200 years.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
"But let's just make up outlandish claims like recreating the Infinity Gauntlet because 200 sounds such a big number."Lulz, Punisher = HE.
You're coming up with a whole lot of things that make it seem like you think pretty much anyone with 200 years prep can beat DC Earth.
Spider-Man with 200 years prep?
Daredevil with 200 years prep?
Show me the quote where I said he beats DC earth.....oh thats right I didnt.
Originally posted by jinzin
And that equates to him having batman or HE level intelligence... how?
Noooo that doesnt equate to him having Batman or HE intelligence. Let me try again. Hes intelligent, already has knowledge of shield level tech if he invest time and research into increasing his intelligence I think he could exceed Batmans intelligence.
Originally posted by jinzin
lol whatever it takes for Punisher to look good I guess.
and thats the sort of response you get when somebody makes a logical statement and you cant counter it.
He already has knowledge of advanced tech, is already intelligent and has 200 years, if you dont think that he can reach Batmans level if he invests time and money thats fine.
Im assuming as well that he would also like into genetic egineering etc.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
SHIELD has intelligence increasing technology?He'd learn genetic engineering? So he becomes Mr Sinister/Forge/Batman/Dr Strange/High Evolutionary all simultaneously over 200 years, while building a Cosmic Cube.
Head for the hills. Sinestro Corps ain't got nothing on that.
Originally posted by Phantom ZoneHe already has knowledge of advanced tech, is already intelligent and has 200 years, if you dont think that he can reach BATMANS LEVEL if he invests time and money thats fine.
Note it does not state in the post below that Frank will increase to HEs level it just states that intelligence can be increased if you spend, time, resources, research etc. Please stop misinterpreting posts.
Originally posted by Phantom ZoneThe High evolutinary invested time in intelligence increasing tech, he has highier intelligence.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
and thats the sort of response you get when somebody makes a logical statement and you cant counter it.
And that's wishful thinking..
Okay cowboy... have you realized this?
First Frank needs to infiltrate SHIELD without getting caught.
Then he needs to get out of SHIELD without getting caught.
Then he has to avoid getting caught when SHIELD finds out what he's done. So he's already going to have a cape-killing government organization on his ass in the MU alone.
Then there's the fact that he doesn't even know where to get what he's looking for. Or what he's looking for for that matter.
What is he supposed to find? A hardrive with info? Maybe.
A disk? Possibly
A head contraption? Who knows?
What if it's a generator sized piece of machinery though? Then what?
THEN he has to figure out how it would work, and if it was on a disk or drive how to build whatever kind of device that the info he found told him.
The time and money invested in such an operation would already most likely wipe Frank's current resources dry.
On top of this there's the whole fact that if SHIELD DID have the tech to make their people geniuses they sure as hell would have used it by now!
But when you see people like Hill, Fury, and Dum-Dum Dugan (oh the irony) running the show, we're not exactly left with that impression are we?
Logical?
Okay, what's logical about this? You ASSUMED SHIELD has technology that can increase a person's intelligence into a gifted capacity.
You ASSUMED that it would be easily accessible to Punisher simply based on the fact that he's been in a SHIELD hellicarrier if they did.
You ASSUMED that doing something like this would carry no ill consequences on Frank's part.
Hell, you ASSUMED that this would be Frank's course of action in spite of an entire career of him running around with a "shoot em up" mentality, and what for? To capitalize on weaknesses about heroes he only has public and quite limited knowledge about in some ploy to be as dangerous to over 60,000 people as Batman is to his closest colleagues...
Yeah.. Logical... 🙄
The fact of the matter is as I said, you'll go to any lengths in addressing "your" character the benefit of the doubt so that he/she will look good in a thread.
Am I wrong?
"Hulk can get strong and angry enough to move lightspeed he'll definitely hit the Flash".... Later
"Captain America will be able to dodge everything Hulk throws at him".
"Punisher can beat Black Widow because he's beaten two people that have beaten her (Ignoring all the times those people kicked his ass at that)"... Later
"You can't use ABC logic"
"Captain America can hurt bricks he obviously punches with 70 tons of force"..... Later
"With the DKR batsuit Cap's stopping power will increase 90 fold, he'll be hitting with 6,300 tons of force"
(When was that suit ever stated capable of lifting 90 tons again? Oh right whatever it takes to make him look good right?)
"Ennis issues that degrade Marvel icons holds serious weight in this debate"... Later
"Hulk's speed feats are PIS, Wolverine beating top tiers is PIS"
In fact.......
"Hulk can hit Flash".... Later..
"Hulk's speed feats are PIS".........
That right there says it all.. you're "logic" akin to your debating "tactics" are total crap, rely on extreme benefits of the doubt and pretty much ignore feasibility and plausibility for the sake of making your characters look better than they are..
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
He already has knowledge of advanced tech, is already intelligent and has 200 years, if you dont think that he can reach Batmans level if he invests time and money thats fine.Im assuming as well that he would also like into genetic egineering etc.
No one said he wasn't smart/cunning.. but he's no genius. If he invests time into learning more it's going to be a lot of time, if he invests money.. where does it come from? You're talking about a man who drives around in a van.
Okay lets ASSUME he is more intelligent for whatever reason... now what? How is he going to make use of DC characters' staple weaknesses any better than he would have before when he's stuck with only using common knowledge about them?
Originally posted by Battlehammer
hahahah sado tried to uses Punisher killing the MU as evidences hahahahah no fing way.
And the saddest part about all my ranting?
Between the two of them....
I shit you not:
😐
Originally posted by Sado22
with preperation! Frank castle maims them. in one of the "what ifs" he killed all of marvel. he shot Bruce Banner when he was sleeping, electricuted Wolveirne to the point taht his brain spilled out of his ears, shot Captain American in the head (after suckering him), blew up the X-mansion with a couple of C4's (and sniped those who came out).