Punisher vs Wolverine

Originally posted by Sado22
you seriously seem to have a problem reading.
the thread said frank castle gets [b]ONE HUNDRED YEARS to prepare for it. Batman had the whole JLA's weakness down after knowing them. and yet Frank can't do it in a 100 years. its just like what one guy told me here: you sound more and more like battlehammer as time passes by.

...but then again, you also seem to have a problem wrapping your head around frank having one hour here so i guess i can't blame you. like i said.....it's too late.

~Sado [/B]

No I read the thread just fine, which is why it's so humorous.

Seems like the only problem here is your abilities of comprehension.

Even with 100 years, his time is spent in the MU, and he only has common knowledge.

Batman composed his files on the justice league over the coarse of years while living, training, and eating right next to them, their his closest colleagues.

Not to mention Bruces resources are practically limitless, and his intellect is genious level, able to use alien technology completely foreign to him after decyphering alien languages.

And you're seriously trying to compare Frank to that? Over 60 thousand times over?

AND.. on top of that imply that he's going to by-pass
Martian, kryptonian, Apokalyptian, and New God tech with virtually no knowledge about them?

pfftbwahahahahaha!
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What you don't seem to understand is how two bad story arcs written by Ennis don't equate to Punisher being more capible of dealing with an aware Wolverine than the White House, Shield, Sabretooth, or Weapon X. But then again, you are the one who DID use Punisher kills the MU as if you thought that was suitable evidence. 😐

Originally posted by Sado22
you seriously seem to have a problem reading.
the thread said frank castle gets [b]ONE HUNDRED YEARS[/B]

So you were serious in that thread. Lulz.

Originally posted by jinzin
All I'm saying is that Wolverine isn't inhibited by the same CIS that Spiderman was when Punisher did those things. And that's the ONLY reason Punisher even touched Spidey... I'm not trying to say that Wolverine's a better bullet dodger by any means, rather that your example against Spidey is a bit skewed.

What CIS he shot at Spiderman he wasnt fast enough to dodge.

Originally posted by jinzin
No I read the thread just fine, which is why it's so humorous.

Seems like the only problem here is your abilities of comprehension.

Even with 100 years, his time is spent in the MU, and he only has common knowledge.

Batman composed his files on the justice league over the coarse of years while living, training, and eating right next to them, their his closest colleagues.

Not to mention Bruces resources are practically limitless, and his intellect is genious level, able to use alien technology completely foreign to him after decyphering alien languages.

And you're seriously trying to compare Frank to that? Over 60 thousand times over?

AND.. on top of that imply that he's going to by-pass
Martian, kryptonian, Apokalyptian, and New God tech with virtually no knowledge about them?

pfftbwahahahahaha!
😆

What you don't seem to understand is how two bad story arcs written by Ennis don't equate to Punisher being more capible of dealing with an aware Wolverine than the White House, Shield, Sabretooth, or Weapon X. But then again, you are the one who DID use Punisher kills the MU as if you thought that was suitable evidence. 😐

He actually doesnt get to kill DC universe because the phantom strenger cant be killed not even by Spectre, Frank may become very powerful but he needs to get above abstract to do that, but he goes a long way hes already very smart and has 200 YEARS! Hell the guy was able to give grief to Ulik and he wasnt even properly prepped what the hell is he gonna do in 200?

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
He actually doesnt get to kill DC universe because the phantom strenger cant be killed not even by Spectre, Frank may become very powerful but he needs to get above abstract to do that, but he goes a long way hes already very smart and has 200 YEARS! Hell the guy was able to give grief to Ulik and he wasnt even properly prepped what the hell is he gonna do in 200?

What's he going to do in 200 years?

Shitall to Aquaman who lives under the ocean, is guarded by armies of Atlantians and powerful mages (as the thread was made prior to DoV iirc) and whose city isn't common knowledge. Just one example.

He kills maybe ten heroes or villains tops before he gets figured out. Mostly Ted Kords as opposed to Wonder Womans.

He still gets decapitated Sailor Moon-style in this thread and that.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Phantom Stranger is just one of many he can't kill.

What's he going to do in 200 years?

Shitall to Aquaman who lives under the ocean, is guarded by armies of Atlantians and powerful mages (as the thread was made prior to DoV iirc) and whose city isn't common knowledge. Just one example.

He kills maybe ten heroes or villains tops before he gets figured out. Mostly Ted Kords as opposed to Wonder Womans.

He still gets decapitated Sailor Moon-style in this thread and that.

Amass alot of magical powers for starters.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Characters within the MU have done it, most specifically look at X-factor annual 1993 an ordinary boy teaches himself magic and summouns a powerful being. In the morbius series 1993 another guy taches himself magic. If I had my old comic collection I could probably give you loads of examples.

Even if summouning a being is considered outside help what if the force is semi-sentient also he could use magic to gather vast amounts of power.

We also know that magic enables people to make "shortcuts"

Heres another example of somebody teaching himself magic without any outisde help
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/gargoylechristians.htm

Now an elderly man, Isaac locked himself in his mansion and studied books on the occult. He started toying with black magic and looking into ways that he could revitalize Christiansboro. He eventually called up the demon Avarrish, and made a deal that granted Christiansboro prosperity in exchange for Isaac's willingness to serve Avarrish. Isaac's soul was put into a demon's body (Isaac wouldn't learn for years that the body belonged to the demon Gargoyle, Son of Pan, who had displeased the Six-Fingered Hand and was being punished. Isaac also would not learn for years that the Gargoyle's soul had been placed into the body of Isaac Christians). Isaac adapted to his new body and powers, and began doing deeds for Avarrish. Christiansboro, in return, seemed to be thriving and prospering.

A normal kid can teach himself magical powers and gain enough power to take on X-Factor in months, whats Frank going to do in 200 years. Not fully prepped he gave Ulik hassle, whats he going to be able to do in 200 years? He doesnt even have to stick to just tech.

A kid gets the power to take on 6 mutants, so obviously Punisher would be able to take out all of non-bulletproof DC Earth, because all of non-bulletproof DC Earth is comprised of the equivalent of around 100 mutants. Oh wait there's a 5th dimensional imp somewhere in there. Seeking out magical ability being intuitively Punisher's style.

So Punisher somehow becomes a Dr Strange knock-off, then is transported into DC and runs into Dr Fate, Zatanna and Circe? And?

Ressurrection man alone makes it impossible.

Originally posted by Martian_mind
Ressurrection man alone makes it impossible.

Anyway its a spite or joke thread, my point is simply that he could go along way.

Irony. The thread actually states two centuries. So that's either poor mathematics or poor reading comprehension.

No I read the thread just fine, which is why it's so humorous.
Seems like the only problem here is your abilities of comprehension.
Even with 100 years, his time is spent in the MU, and he only has common knowledge.
Batman composed his files on the justice league over the coarse of years while living, training, and eating right next to them, their his closest colleagues.
Not to mention Bruces resources are practically limitless, and his intellect is genious level, able to use alien technology completely foreign to him after decyphering alien languages.
And you're seriously trying to compare Frank to that? Over 60 thousand times over?
AND.. on top of that imply that he's going to by-pass
Martian, kryptonian, Apokalyptian, and New God tech with virtually no knowledge about them?
pfftbwahahahahaha!
What you don't seem to understand is how two bad story arcs written by Ennis don't equate to Punisher being more capible of dealing with an aware Wolverine than the White House, Shield, Sabretooth, or Weapon X. But then again, you are the one who DID use Punisher kills the MU as if you thought that was suitable evidence.

and again, the keywor is TWO HUNDRED YEARS! jackass.

~Sado

Originally posted by Sado22
okay so that makes it even better. one person has 200 years to prepare for a fight against a man whose weakness EVERYONE knows. 😆

for one i'm pretty sure the thread was talking about only those who CAN be killed by a bullet.

Which proves you have comprehension problems since that was never a specification.. It only said non-bulletproof. Something that was detailed out well after you joined the "debate".

Originally posted by Sado22
for one don't tell me batman is genius iq since i already know that.

Originally posted by Sado22
the point that you (as always) miss is that frank has 200 years to prepare for it. bruce found out superman's weakness is kryptonite. well congrads to bruce for finding out the one thing that every jackass in DC knows. as for wonder woman and the rest, his "antis" weren't over the top intelligent. oh wait green latern's blinded..........that takes a millenia of scientific knowledge to figure out.
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Originally posted by Sado22
and again, the keywor is TWO HUNDRED YEARS! jackass.

~Sado

Originally posted by Sado22
you seriously seem to have a problem reading.
the thread said frank castle gets [b]ONE HUNDRED YEARS to prepare for it. [/B]

Yeah, you're an idiot. 😬

Originally posted by jinzin

And yet you're comparing his intelligence to Punisher. 😐

200.....years. What part of that arent you getting? 200.......years. How intelligent is Frank going to be after 200 years, dont you think he would be more intelligent or just as intelligent after 200 years?

I cant understand how you call people idiots but the obvious has to keep getting explained to you.

He'd be the same intelligence, he may be more learned. There's a difference. Batman would still be leaps and bounds above in intelligence, and possible still more learned.

Originally posted by Sado22
okay so that makes it even better. one person has 200 years to prepare for a fight against a man whose weakness EVERYONE knows. 😆

Originally posted by Sado22
for one i'm pretty sure the thread was talking about only those who CAN be killed by a bullet.

Punisher cannot take on Hulk with 200 years of prep!

(Unless knockout is a win, then maybe he can take the Hulk like, once)

Originally posted by Bentley
Punisher cannot take on Hulk with 200 years of prep!

(Unless knockout is a win, then maybe he can take the Hulk like, once)

He wasnt even prepped properly and he did pretty well against Ulik...why not?

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
200.....years. What part of that arent you getting? 200.......years. How intelligent is Frank going to be after 200 years, dont you think he would be more intelligent or just as intelligent after 200 years?

I cant understand how you call people idiots but the obvious has to keep getting explained to you.

you probably don't understand because you're one of them.

Being old does not incline one to genious level intelligence.

Dracula
Cyber
Wolverine Sabretooth
even Cap after your lil Korvac saga.. tell me these guys are as smart as Batman... you can't because they're not.

"can't fix stupid"

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
He wasnt even prepped properly and he did pretty well against Ulik...why not?

Did he have any chance to kill Ulik? Was he not under what we call PIS or CIS that we don't use in this forum?

Originally posted by jinzin
you probably don't understand because you're one of them.

Being old does not incline one to genious level intelligence.

Dracula
Cyber
Wolverine Sabretooth
even Cap after your lil Korvac saga.. tell me these guys are as smart as Batman... you can't because they're not.

"can't fix stupid"

Thats because they didnt try to spend 200 years trying to increase their intelligence. Increasing ones intelligence is a viable option and if he did that he would be more intelligent than Batman.

Originally posted by Bentley
Did he have any chance to kill Ulik? Was he not under what we call PIS or CIS that we don't use in this forum?

Nope but he manged to hurt him and dodge his punches but of course he got caught in the end. The point is he did pretty well eventhough he was not fully prepped....see my point?

You can't increase your innate intelligence, unless you mean via some imaginary comic book tech/magical means. Being well read doesn't make one more intelligent, Batman will still be more intelligent than Punisher if all the latter does is learn a lot of information.

But you're probably talking about some bullshit chi/karma/Prozac thing that you think applies to the real world.

Down's baby is still going to be down's baby.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Thats because they didnt try to spend 200 years trying to increase their intelligence. Increasing ones intelligence is a viable option

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
and if he did that he would be more intelligent than Batman.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
You can't increase your innate intelligence, unless you mean via some imaginary comic book tech/magical means.

Right so he cant obtain tech to increase his intelligence in 200 years?

Originally posted by jinzin
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The High evolutinary invested time in intelligence increasing tech, he has highier intelligence.