Punisher vs Wolverine

Started by Creshosk58 pages

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
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Anyway Punisher still wins though. Skill has been shown to beat equipment time and time again.

Wait... Punisher wins because skill beats equipment...

That sounds contradictory considering that Punisher is going to be the one more heavily armed.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Wait... Punisher wins because skill beats equipment...

That sounds contradictory considering that Punisher is going to be the one more heavily armed.

he prob meant the other way around

Originally posted by Master-Borg
I don't see it as a dodging feat...but I agree with Alf that it can be used as a speed feat...he's running so fast they can't lock onto him

but no, it is not a dodging feat...he's running in a straight line for god's sake

are you serous? The missle was aimed at him, we see it fly towards him and then we see it blow up behind him. The missle was level with him. It could not have blow up like that behind him unless it was dodged.

Originally posted by Creshosk
And? Need I post the scans of when he chooses not to dodge the bullets? Early X-men Vol2 when Omega Red debuted a task force went in to take wolverine down with adamantium tipped bullets fired from machine guns... That didn't work, destroyed Logan's bike but that was about it.

Hes been shot before we cant assume everytime he gets shot that he allowed himself to be shot.

Originally posted by Creshosk

No, he has an hour to prepare for the fight. he doesn't get an hour of free hits on Logan nor does he win after an hour expires. He has enough time to travel to collect what he needs for the fight.

Right and you're statign the obvious because.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
are you serous? The missle was aimed at him, we see it fly towards him and then we see it blow up behind him. The missle was level with him. It could not have blow up like that behind him unless it was dodged.
it could've went through his legs....but I'll concede this point

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
No you didnt answer the question.
Since when is replying that "I don't know." not a valid answer to a question?

How many species of sponge are there?
What color is boron?
The rostral migratory stream exists in humans, yes or no?

Originally posted by Master-Borg
it could've went through his legs....but I'll concede this point

.........lol If anythign Logan jumped it. given his body sizes it going through his legs would be close to is not impossable.

Well I will take that since it the closest thing I will get from you admitting your wrong.

actually the rocket was very low to the ground...I think Logan just jumped over it. not sure if thats dodging, but I guess its close enough.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Wait... Punisher wins because skill beats equipment...

That sounds contradictory considering that Punisher is going to be the one more heavily armed.

No what im trying to say is this. The argument is being used that Wolverine can dodge a missle from a helicopter, Wolverine should be able to dodge a missle launcher from Frank.

Im sayign this is incorrect because time and time again skillful characters have shown to overcome machinery eg it could be argued that Cap should not be ablt to hit Spiderman because he has dodged lasers but this doesnt change the fact that Cap is skillful enough to hit Spiderman.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Since when is replying that "I don't know." not a valid answer to a question?

How many species of sponge are there?
What color is boron?
The rostral migratory stream exists in humans, yes or no?

Because you're basically taking the piss. SHIELD is an organization whos sole prupose is to protect the earth in a world full of superhumans and aliens. One of its greatest enemies is AIM that spends time and money into researching superhuman powers its SHIELDS business to stop them.....and you dont know wether they would have information on enhancing human ability......Nick Fury would tell you "The **** you think????".

Originally posted by Master-Borg
actually the rocket was very low to the ground...I think Logan just jumped over it. not sure if thats dodging, but I guess its close enough.


If jumping is nto dodging then i guess spiderman and DD hardly ever dodge.

pleases stop talking rubbish.

Yeah he most likely dodged that. This is just getting silly going into details, from what I can see that copter is more or less in front of Wolverine, he must have side-stepped it while running.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
If jumping is nto dodging then i guess spiderman and DD hardly ever dodge.

pleases stop talking rubbish.

Logan didnt even jump really...he was running and by lifting his legs to run, the missile went under his legs

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Because you're basically taking the piss. SHIELD is an organization whos sole prupose is to protect the earth in a world full of superhumans and aliens. One of its greatest enemies is AIM that spends time and money into researching superhuman powers its SHIELDS business to stop them.....and you dont know wether they would have information on enhancing human ability......Nick Fury would tell you "The **** you think".
I'm not in the business of giving conclusive answers to questions I don't know the conclusive answer to although that's some lovely supposition. You're again, I presume, assuming they have this information. You're again, I presume, assuming that Punisher will be able to use this information that if it exists I doubt he'd understand to fashion an intelligence increasing device. Or else you're still presuming they have the hot pink Taco Bell dog-filled soul-powered machine already just lying around.

You're presuming a lot without a lot to base it on besides supposition.

If Nick Fury were to say that to me, then I'd respond by asking why he's only of his level of intelligence.

Originally posted by Master-Borg
Logan didnt even jump really...he was running and by lifting his legs to run, the missile went under his legs

are you really still trying to argue Wolverine did not dodge it? You really dislike him that much don't you.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Yeah he most likely dodged that. This is just getting silly going into details, from what I can see that copter is more or less in front of Wolverine, he must have side-stepped it while running.

cosigned.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I'm not in the business of giving conclusive answers to questions I don't know the conclusive answer to although that's some lovely supposition. You're again, I presume, assuming they have this information. You're again, I presume, assuming that Punisher will be able to use this information that if it exists I doubt he'd understand to fashion an intelligence increasing device.

You're presuming a lot without a lot to base it on besides supposition.

Person A: Hi Nick I wanted to ask you a question...whats SHIELDS purpose?
Nick Fury: To protect the earth, since their are alot of superhumans on this planet it usually involves protecting them from superhumans.
Person A: Right so you would need alot of information on superhumans...all sorts of things....in fact the more information you have the better to deal with the problem?
Nick Fury: Nope we got **** all.
Person A: ....but I thought its your purpose to protect earth from superhuman threats.
Nick Fury: Yeah so....we got nothin. Despite the fact weve come across all sorts of superhumans we never bother to keep any information in the database that could help us to deal with the threat.
Person A: .........

dur

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Person A: Hi Nick I wanted to ask you a question...whats SHIELDS purpose?
Nick Fury: To protect the earth, since their are alot of superhumans on this planet it usually involves protecting them from superhumans.
Person A: Right so you would need alot of information on superhumans...all sorts of things....in fact the more information you have the better to deal with the problem?
Nick Fury: Nope we got **** all.
Person A: ....but I thought its your purpose to protect earth from superhuman threats.
Nick Fury: Yeah so....we got nothin. Despite the fact weve come across all sorts of superhumans we never bother to keep any information in the database that could help us to deal with the threat.
Person A: .........

dur

You've gone from that they have an intelligence increasing device, to that they have information sufficient to fashion an intelligence increasing device, to that they have information on superhumans, the last of which was never in question.

The first two you're now apparently extrapolating on the last, I'm not sure based on what. And then further extrapolating that Punisher would be able to interpret the information in the second sufficiently to fashion an intelligence increasing device. Presumably love of Punisher.

Your attempt at being snarky only makes you look foolish. You don't do it well, you should stick to being emo.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
are you really still trying to argue Wolverine did not dodge it?
not arguing it...just pointing out how I interpreted it. You're free to disagree.

Originally posted by Master-Borg
not arguing it...just pointing out how I interpreted it. You're free to disagree.

Notice how no one agrees with you?

And do you still think you don't have a negative bias verses wolverine?

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Person A: Hi Nick I wanted to ask you a question...whats SHIELDS purpose?
Nick Fury: To protect the earth, since their are alot of superhumans on this planet it usually involves protecting them from superhumans.
Person A: Right so you would need alot of information on superhumans...all sorts of things....in fact the more information you have the better to deal with the problem?
Nick Fury: Nope we got **** all.
Person A: ....but I thought its your purpose to protect earth from superhuman threats.
Nick Fury: Yeah so....we got nothin. Despite the fact weve come across all sorts of superhumans we never bother to keep any information in the database that could help us to deal with the threat.
Person A: .........

dur

If Person A is just a civilian that could be the answers given. I doubt they'd divulge information like that to just anyone.

"Oh yeah we have a neuro-enhancer which rapidly develops synaptic pathways in the human brain via the RMS."
"Where is that kept?"
"Oh its kept in subsection A-328 of area 40."
"Area 40?"
"That's in Utah right under the Brigham Young University Campus."
"And How tight is security?"
"Oh we just have a couple of Mormon missionaries down there, noone dares go near 'em."