Punisher vs Wolverine

Started by Master-Borg58 pages

Originally posted by jinzin
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I just said that DD's was better...

But Beyond what Logan is capable of? Nah, not when Iron Fist can hear sweat falling down a person's cheek from 20 feet away.

and Iron Fist is relevant how?

I mean IF utilizes Chi to enhance himself, does not mean Logan can do the same.

actaully Logan senses have been stated to be better then any animals.............

Originally posted by Master-Borg
and Iron Fist is relevant how?

I mean IF utilizes Chi to enhance himself, does not mean Logan can do the same.

😕 It proves that a sense like hearing can be altered and heightened by training alone, like daredevil said stick taught him. Hell stick through training gave himself a radar sense more accute than DD's in some cases.

When Daredevil made the comment about training enhancing one's own senses he made no mention of chi so there goes that speculation.

its complete speculation that Logan can enhance his senses through training.

if that were the case, Batman would've had superhuman senses long ago. As well as Captain America. But the fact is you really can't train your senses to be superhuman levels (IF and DD are exceptions not the rule)

Originally posted by Master-Borg
its complete speculation that Logan can enhance his senses through training.

if that were the case, Batman would've had superhuman senses long ago. As well as Captain America. But the fact is you really can't train your senses to be superhuman levels (IF and DD are exceptions not the rule)

actaully stick straight up says you can................and then proves it.

Oh stone and elektra have as well.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
actaully stick straight up says you can................and then proves it.

So why doesn't Captain America or Batman have super senses then? These 2 guys train harder than anyone else and try to push their physical limits to the max, if it were true one could enhance their senses to superhuman levels through training, certainly, Batman or Captain America would be the first ones to do so.

Originally posted by Master-Borg
its complete speculation that Logan can enhance his senses through training.

if that were the case, Batman would've had superhuman senses long ago. As well as Captain America. But the fact is you really can't train your senses to be superhuman levels (IF and DD are exceptions not the rule)


Who's to say he doesn't?

He's been able to pick out an enemy that even Superman himself couldn't pin down.

Captain America can fight people based on shifts in the air, again who's to say he doesn't...

Look, humans are sight oriented from birth, that's why IN REAL LIFE, when people go blind, or are blind from birth, the accuteness of their hearing far surpasses that of ordinary people. It's not speculation it's based on medical fact.

IF, DD, and Stick. don't forget about him, are exceptions because those are things they've attempted to better...

It's not like people like Cap, or Bats have tried to and failed.

Originally posted by Creshosk
He's harping on an instance where DD smelled gunpowder two blocks away. And he wants you to prove that wolverine did the same exact thing and risks commiting an Ad ignorantium fallacy and an argument from silence.

That being "If wolverine couldn't(although its simply hasn't) do what DD did this one time, his senses are not as good as DDs"

Ok you prove to me Wolverine sense of smell is greate then. 😐

Originally posted by batdude123
Looking at it from an objective viewpoint, there's no question that Wolverine has the better sense of smell.

Prove it. Hell this is what other pisters said about this issue.

hell this was discussed in another forums and mosty people thought that DD had a better sense of smell.

cna't we all just make up and live happily ever after.
'tis a time of love and compassion 😇

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Ok you prove to me Wolverine sense of smell is greate then. 😐
DD stated it on panel twice, but I guess you know better than the writers.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Prove it. Hell this is what other pisters said about this issue.

hell this was discussed in another forums and mosty people thought that DD had a better sense of smell.

Ad populem is an ivalid argument. Sorry, but if its stated on panel...

Originally posted by Creshosk
DD stated it on panel twice, but I guess you know better than the writers.

Ad populem is an ivalid argument. Sorry, but if its stated on panel...

1. sentry has been stated to have powers of a million explodings suns but has never shown this power level.

2. Frank Castle said that Winter Solider would kill him if they fought, they fought and Winter Soldier had to back down because he didnt want his brains blown out.

3. Daredevil has said that Spiderman was too fast for him to keep a bead on despite the fact that DD has been able to cope with Spidermans speed.

In other words just because somebody says it so does not make it true when there is evdence to the contrary and apparently he didnt even say that what he said was "could it be".

has daredevil ever spotted a shapeshifter masquerading as someone? has he ever identified anyone purely by scent? and by that i mean, having no other indication that theyre close, purely scent? can he differentiate between clones?

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
1. sentry has been stated to have powers of a million explodings suns but has never shown this power level.
How are you comparing obvious trash talk with someone telling someone else that they are better? You're just grasping at straws now.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
2. Frank Castle said that Winter Solider would kill him if they fought, they fought and Winter Soldier had to back down because he didnt want his brains blown out.
Trash talk, psychological warfare that OBVIOUSLY worked.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
3. Daredevil has said that Spiderman was too fast for him to keep a bead on despite the fact that DD has been able to cope with Spidermans speed.
So DD's a liar now? Figuring out a way to cope is not the same thing as being wrong.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
In other words just because somebody says it so does not make it true when there is evdence to the contrary and apparently he didnt even say that what he said was "could it be".
Yeah I'll keep in mind you saying things does not make it true.

You got any evidence of DD accomplishing something that Wolverine could not?

No, you have biased circumstantial evidence? Sorry, but that kinda bull wouldn't be addmisible in a court of law... Not that you'd know that since you compare trash talking to a more civil disscussion... but then this is the same guy who said that Hulk should cause shockwaves just by flexing his muscles... Different avatar, different name, same old clueless Alf.

Originally posted by Raoul
has daredevil ever spotted a shapeshifter masquerading as someone? has he ever identified anyone purely by scent? and by that i mean, having no other indication that theyre close, purely scent? can he differentiate between clones?

He can spot different people by scent and he has sensed gunpowder two blocks away and his radar sense was being screwed up at the time.

Originally posted by Creshosk
How are you comparing obvious trash talk with someone telling someone else that they are better? You're just grasping at straws now.

Trash talk, psychological warfare that OBVIOUSLY worked.

So DD's a liar now? Figuring out a way to cope is not the same thing as being wrong.

Yeah I'll keep in mind you saying things does not make it true.

You got any evidence of DD accomplishing something that Wolverine could not?

No, you have biased circumstantial evidence? Sorry, but that kinda bull wouldn't be addmisible in a court of law... Not that you'd know that since you compare trash talking to a more civil disscussion... but then this is the same guy who said that Hulk should cause shockwaves just by flexing his muscles... Different avatar, different name, same old clueless Alf.

You are missing the point just because somebody says something in a comicbook does not make it true.

Daredevil said that he could hardly cope with Spidermans speed. How is this true when there are loads of other accounts that contradict this when there is evidence contrary to it.

It was said that aegis and tenebrous were both as powerful as Galactus how is this true when he has beaten both of them on his own.

Please show me the quote where Daredevil says his sense of smell is better because apparently thats not exactly what he said.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
He can spot different people by scent and he has sensed gunpowder two blocks away and his radar sense was being screwed up at the time.

You are missing the point just because somebody says something in a comicbook does not make it true.

You're missing the point. Not everyone in comics are liars. Do you even know what trash talking is? Do you know what "psyching someone out" is?

Since you seem to think its the same thing as a civil comment I'm going to guess you don't. But that doesn't surprise me.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Daredevil said that he could hardly cope with Spidermans speed. How is this true when there are loads of other accounts that contradict this.
Except that that "hardly copping" is exactly what happens. When you're able to cope, even a little bit you can still get the job done. Seems to me DD was right.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
It was said that aegis and tenebrous were both as powerful as Galactus how is this true when he has beaten both of them on his own.
Are either of them Daredevil? Are any of these guys Wolverine?

No? Then why are you using them? That's sort of like me using something that Phoenix said in a fight between Punisher and Wolverine... Oh wait...

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Please show me the quote where Daredevil says his sense of smell is better because apparently thats not exactly what he said.
Is it really that hard to accept? 😂

Whatsa matta? Can't stand to see Punisher lose?

Oh wait... Punisher vs DCU, Punisher vs Apokalips...

Yeah, you're the Rutog of the Punisher world.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
He can spot different people by scent and he has sensed gunpowder two blocks away and his radar sense was being screwed up at the time.

more efficiently and more regularly than logan?

Originally posted by Creshosk
You're missing the point. Not everyone in comics are liars. Do you even know what trash talking is? Do you know what "psyching someone out" is?

Since you seem to think its the same thing as a civil comment I'm going to guess you don't. But that doesn't surprise me.

Except that that "hardly copping" is exactly what happens. When you're able to cope, even a little bit you can still get the job done. Seems to me DD was right.

Are either of them Daredevil? Are any of these guys Wolverine?

No? Then why are you using them? That's sort of like me using something that Phoenix said in a fight between Punisher and Wolverine... Oh wait...
Is it really that hard to accept? 😂

Whatsa matta? Can't stand to see Punisher lose?

Oh wait... Punisher vs DCU, Punisher vs Apokalips...

Yeah, you're the Rutog of the Punisher world.

Nice talking to you Cresh. 👆

Originally posted by Raoul
more efficiently and more regularly than logan?

His sense of smell is not shown that much because he has other senses as well that doesnt prove that hes not better than Wolverine.

As I said he has sensed gunpowder 2 blocks away and from what I gathered he was also able to smell pretzels from across the river. I have never seen Wolverine sense smells from that range. As far as I can see there is no evidence to prove that Wolverine is better than DD whern they use their sense of smell.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Nice talking to you Cresh. 👆

maybe now i won't have to close the thread...

His sense of smell is not shown that much because he has other senses as well that doesnt prove that hes not better than Wolverine.

As I said he has sensed gunpowder 2 blocks away and from what I gathered he was also able to smell pretzels from across the river. I have never seen Wolverine sense smells from that range. As far as I can see there is no evidence to prove that Wolverine is better than DD whern they use their sense of smell.

except the differentiating clones, knowing mystique is whoever she's pretending to be, etc...

question: how much x-men have you actually read?

Originally posted by Creshosk
You're missing the point. Not everyone in comics are liars. Do you even know what trash talking is? Do you know what "psyching someone out" is?

So Sentry DOES have the power of a million suns then. 😉

Originally posted by grey fox
So Sentry DOES have the power of a million suns then. 😉

yeah, cos i'd trust tony stark, mister 50 state initiative who needed spider-woman to tell him that the skrulls were coming... 😛