MMT: Character Discussion(Banning/Trading/etc)

Started by leonidas29 pages

"teh List":

Loki: (power level exceeds cap) martian, trick, akuki
Firestorm: (power level exceeds cap) trick, akuki, martian, bran
Sersi: (power exceeds cap) bran
Jefferies/Box: (exceeds killability cap) leo, trick
Lang: (OHK) Fox
Aquarian: (loophole-power nullification) Fox, trick, akuki, dl, martian
Meggan: leo, trick

9 votes, btw, gets someone booted.

anyone else?

(better smurph? 😄 )

I know next to nothing about Lionheart... but does he have Excalibur?

Anyways, if people are seriously freaking out about Meggan...

First off, please don't take Mr. Master's word as law (never thought I'd have to warn people...)

Anyways, important to keep in mind that Meggan could only do that for two reasons:

1. She was drawing lots of extra power from Otherworld, which was why she was HUGE (Juggy size in this scan, but got to be skyscraper-tall)

http://img204.imageshack.us/my.php?image=uncannyxmen465page19rk5.jpg

2. It was a force of nature, which is specifically why she was able to commune with it, and slow it. Girl can stop a tidal wave, but not a fist (not directly, anyways).

Also important to keep in mind that she got pwned by it in a few seconds... just seconds more than everybody else.

Put me down as against Loki and Aquarian.

My two cents but from a neutral perspective, I have to agree with Smurph.
Megan is an elemental, she's very powerful and versatile but she's well below a Wonder Women cap. 😬

It's a bit odd that people are even contesting her. Her average power showing is like Magneto Level give or take a little.

Loki owned the friggin Thor Corps... I'm against Loki as well.
And Aquarian... unless... 😖hifty:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t434907.html

judge for yourself on Meggan.

Originally posted by Zeitgeist
Anyways, if people are seriously freaking out about Meggan...

First off, please don't take Mr. Master's word as law (never thought I'd have to warn people...)

Anyways, important to keep in mind that Meggan could only do that for two reasons:

1. She was drawing lots of extra power from Otherworld, which was why she was HUGE (Juggy size in this scan, but got to be skyscraper-tall)

http://img204.imageshack.us/my.php?image=uncannyxmen465page19rk5.jpg

2. It was a force of nature, which is specifically why she was able to commune with it, and slow it. Girl can stop a tidal wave, but not a fist (not directly, anyways).

Also important to keep in mind that she got pwned by it in a few seconds... just seconds more than everybody else.

my question would be this: was she only able to tap that power BECAUSE she was in otherworld? could she call upon those same powers from earth (or . . . wherever the hell we find ourselves battling???) if she has no access to those powers normally, than i have no problem with her. 🙂

seriously -- i'd considered her but figured she would just get banned almost automatically. but then again, i wasn't sure about the answers to the above. 😬

"teh List":

Loki: (power level exceeds cap) martian, trick, akuki, goob, bran
Firestorm: (power level exceeds cap) trick, akuki, martian, bran
Sersi: (power exceeds cap) bran
Jefferies/Box: (exceeds killability cap) leo, trick
Lang: (OHK) Fox
Aquarian: (loophole-power nullification) Fox, trick, akuki, dl, martian, goob, bran
Meggan: leo, trick

9 votes, btw, gets someone booted.

anyone else?

(better smurph? 😄 )

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
My two cents but from a neutral perspective, I have to agree with Smurph.
Megan is an elemental, she's very powerful and versatile but she's well below a Wonder Women cap. 😬

It's a bit odd that people are even contesting her. Her average power showing is like Magneto Level give or take a little.

problem is in these things high showings mean things are POSSIBLE. so if it is POSSIBLE for her to access such a high level of power, then in a tourney she CAN because we use characters to their utmost. averages tend not to matter . . . 😬

if there is a specific reason she was able to access that power (and hence woulnd't be able to duplicate the feat in tourney), then i recind my vote against. 🙂

http://img204.imageshack.us/my.php?image=galactussizepu2.jpg

http://img204.imageshack.us/my.php?image=detachedfromstringswg0.jpg
http://img204.imageshack.us/my.php?image=detachedfromstrings2sk9.jpg

http://img219.imageshack.us/my.php?image=electromagneticcg1.jpg

http://img272.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lifeforceofaplanetln6.jpg
http://img272.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lifeforceofaplanet2on9.jpg

If this doesn't get her banned, there's more.

How about jacking the phoenix force?
http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exc09p07ur7.jpg

Originally posted by leonidas
my question would be this: was she only able to tap that power BECAUSE she was in otherworld? could she call upon those same powers from earth (or . . . wherever the hell we find ourselves battling???) if she has no access to those powers normally, than i have no problem with her. 🙂
I've never seen her pull off a feat anywhere near that powerful in the past, and only in the instance with Wanda's wave. When she had access to that other world.

So, you can judge for yourself.

For reference, she has one other famous instance of growing really big, when Galactus arrived. But she immediately admitted that, a) she'd get shitstomped by the world eater, and b) she was draining her power source (which she named as Earth), of all of its power.

And yet, she never mentioned another power source, and she grew huge against the Chaos Wave, without mention of any consequence. In fact, the way Britain phrased it, it seemed she was growing that huge because she had to due to the amount of power she was taking in.

Ok I'm going to have to add my vote against Meggan. She's also once shattered the Lighthouse with a blast that destroyed it in all realities. This same lighthouse was strong enough that adamantium drills simply melted trying to work on it.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
http://img204.imageshack.us/my.php?image=galactussizepu2.jpg

http://img204.imageshack.us/my.php?image=detachedfromstringswg0.jpg
http://img204.imageshack.us/my.php?image=detachedfromstrings2sk9.jpg

http://img219.imageshack.us/my.php?image=electromagneticcg1.jpg

http://img272.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lifeforceofaplanetln6.jpg
http://img272.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lifeforceofaplanet2on9.jpg

If this doesn't get her banned, there's more.

You drafted Dr. Light and you're complaining about Megan? 😐

That Galactus scan is being taken out of context.

Being immune to reality warping doesn't warrant a ban otherwise Psylocke would be banned.

And I don't actually see why or how that feat involving Rachel Grey warrants a ban for Megan?

And she's not jacking the Force in that scan. She's a true elemental that morphs according to her surroundings and draws power from her surroundings.

Her average showing is now where near what you're making it out to be. 😬

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
http://img204.imageshack.us/my.php?image=galactussizepu2.jpg

http://img204.imageshack.us/my.php?image=detachedfromstringswg0.jpg
http://img204.imageshack.us/my.php?image=detachedfromstrings2sk9.jpg

http://img219.imageshack.us/my.php?image=electromagneticcg1.jpg

http://img272.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lifeforceofaplanetln6.jpg
http://img272.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lifeforceofaplanet2on9.jpg

If this doesn't get her banned, there's more.

I've covered the first.

As for the second... on those grounds, Psylcoke could be banned.

The third proves nothing at all.

Nor does the fourth... except that if I decided to draft the Phoenix Force and Meggan, I could heal everybody on the planet. Due to a power that Meggan can't access without the PF, and the only showing displayed has no offensive potential whatsoever.

Do you even look at the scans you post?

Originally posted by leonidas
problem is in these things high showings mean things are POSSIBLE. so if it is POSSIBLE for her to access such a high level of power, then in a tourney she CAN because we use characters to their utmost. averages tend not to matter . . . 😬

You know after giving it some thought I have to agree with you here. The fact that certain characters limit their effectiveness shouldn't really factor into this type of tourney because of the whole "fusion" concept. We should probably completely remove both PIS and CIS in our assessments of whether or not a character's acceptable...

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
You drafted Dr. Light and you're complaining about Megan? 😐

That Galactus scan is being taken out of context.

Being immune to reality warping doesn't warrant a ban otherwise Psylocke would be banned.

And I don't actually see why or how that feat involving Rachel Grey warrants a ban for Megan?

And she's not jacking the Force in that scan.

Lol, EC... great minds...

Originally posted by Akuki
Ok I'm going to have to add my vote against Meggan. She's also once shattered the Lighthouse with a blast that destroyed it in all realities. This same lighthouse was strong enough that adamantium drills simply melted trying to work on it.
She shattered the lighthouse, because she absorbed energy from a massively charged up Brian. 😐
The guy was able to punch Necrom back quite a bit with a punch in that form...

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
She shattered the lighthouse, because she absorbed energy from a massively charged up Brian. 😐

It just demonstrates that so long as she has access to a source of enough power she can easily exceed the caps of this tourney.