Originally posted by Nibedicus
7a. You need to watch Phantom Menace. It was explained there. Precog is a BASIC jedi ability. Even Anakin as a child had it. This is the reason why they are able to block blaster shots and the reason why they seem so accurate/precise as pilots, etc. most can see seconds into the future and act accordingly. This is explained/shown in the movies, the books and the animation as well. Many of the Jedi in the movies realized the betrayal moments before they were shot down (their precog was too late on telling them as they were already surrounded when they found out). Basically, every time you see a jedi block a blaster shot, it is precog.Yoda has the most powerful precog of all force users of his time. He can actually see the distant future. Were Palpatine not blocking him, he would have predicted the Clone Wars betrayal as well. You can dismiss it all you want but this is canon and supported by the movies, but your denial only proves that since you can't counter a supported argument, you conceded this part of the debate. Giving me the win.
7b. I already defeated this argument with a twofold rebuttal many posts ago. Sigh. You just added more flaws.
(1) Post clips of Dumby casting an attack spell within .3 seconds. He still needs to wave his wand which takes more than .3 seconds.
I cannot get what is so hard to understand about that concept.
(2) We've already agreed (for fairness' sake) that Dumby can Immobulus as far as Yoda can force push. [b]So it comes down to who can act first the second they are within range. As he cannot cast his spell while Yoda is out of range.
(3) And even in the tiny (less than 1%) chance that Dumby can hit him with an Immobulus first, Yoda STILL has a window to retaliate with a force push as Dumby would need to cast another spell to finish him off. [/B]
7a. Well I've given you my reason because we only see yoda use it once and it was so unspecific that is why I believed that it wouldn't just be a huge factor. Also when has precog ever helped yoda in a battle situation in the movies. For a matter of fact when has it helped any force weilder. Not saying he can't use it but we just never see him use it to a battle applicable state. I'm not saying he can't use it I just dismiss it as battle applicable. It may be shown but it hasn't been shown as battle applicable as far I as i know/ remember. So he can use it but I don't see why he would as usual ammo is to just plow through his opponent and has never showed any battle applicable precog. So he can use it but I just don't understand what battle applicability it would hold as it was never shown. I know what precog means but it's never been shown in a battle applicable state via movies.
7b. Other than Darth sidious using FORCE CHOKE when has any other force weilder ever ever used telekenisis to throw an opponent about or levitate them purely the person, and not the object not the object below them, without their hands. Notice you must fulfill two requirements, not force choke and lifted just the person and not the object.
According to stealth ranger the average human mind processes a thought within .34milliseconds. Since dumbledore is much smarter than the average human, and since this spell doesn't really need to aim in a particular direction toward yoda, by the time he is done thinking, the spell is activated. So with all of this fact he would be able to freeze yoda before he gets hit.
2. I never said I dint understand if we have agreed on it than that means I must understand it. So both have something going for it. Yodas reflexes vs dumbledores quick mind and no need to say the word, also with stealth Rangers generous say on how fast humans process. Add that to the fact that the moment the though is finished and no need to say the word all that gives dumbledore the ability to use immobulus however, at a very close margin. Then immediamtly shoot out expulso or turn yoda into something like a glass cup or a ferret or just shrink him to an even smaller size to where can't do anything.