Just coming back to this for a second:
Originally posted by Rogue JediDumbledore's full range of power been explored either. But in EU materials, Yoda's limits are much better tested and explored. Hell, forget the limits of Dumbledore's power, we don't even know the limits of magic. If you're going to base your argument that Yoda's full power hasn't been used, then that's an argument you're going to lose, amigo.
Translation: Yoda doesnt display his full powers in the movies, so this is how I am gonna win.
Originally posted by dadudemon
I feel that the magical world of JK Rawling has created is grossly underpowered. Considering all of the "stuff" that is covered in the magical world, a person similar to Orochimaru would have to exist and Voldemort doesn't really cut it for me.If someone were TRULY able to become great at magic in Rawling's Harry Potter universe, then the possibilities are endless.
As I read her stories, I thought that Voldemort was very weak considering the reputation he was supposed to have.
I could go on for pages about things that could be done by a truly powerful wizard/witch...
Still, it is no contest.
Dumbledore by a ridiculous landslide.
Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
Now now now. Don't get out the celebratory cups just yet.When I get home from school I will counter everything that's been said so far.
Not to be a dick, and you know I love your WetBlack ass, but you spend an awful long time in School.
Damn, I just checked the racial slur database, and it seems I was not the first to come up with that one 🙁
Maybe you shouldn't have used Yoda to represent the Force. Darth Sidious, although inferior to Yoda, has all the more aggressive Dark Side Force powers at his disposal. A single Bolt of force Lightning is sure to smoke Dumbledore to a nice charcoal grill.
Also the most powerful Jedis/Sith were before the time of Yoda. Yoda only possesses a fraction of what the former Force users could do.
Originally posted by Rogue JediWithout his wand, he can't really do anything, I'll admit. That said, there's no way you're getting the wand out of his hand.
What if Dumbles is disarmed? What type of defense/offense can he mount without a wand?
Originally posted by PlacidityThe fact that it's my opinion pretty much goes without saying, fckwit.
Fixed.
Originally posted by StrangeloveNo way at all? How can you be so sure? And I have heard from a Harry Potter enthusiast that Dumbles can indeed do some magic without his wand, but that JK Rowling leaves it open for mystery as to what he can actually do.
Without his wand, he can't really do anything, I'll admit. That said, there's no way you're getting the wand out of his hand.
Originally posted by Rogue JediI say "no way" because to a wizard, the wand is an extension of the self. And to a wizard as experienced and weathered as Dumbledore, I think it'd be mighty hard to get it away from him.
No way at all? How can you be so sure? And I have heard from a Harry Potter enthusiast that Dumbles can indeed do some magic without his wand, but that JK Rowling leaves it open for mystery as to what he can actually do.
And maybe it is possible to do magic without a wand. The concept hasn't been explored extensively in the books or the films.