The room is well lit, einstein. You saying Indy has no luck? His luck rivals McClanes. Remember that part in IJaTLC when he took out like 6 nazis with one shot? And durability and pain endurance, remember in IJaTTOD when Indy was fighting the giant towelhead while being stabbed over and over in the back, and STILL won? I can go on and on and on.....
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
He'll be able to see in the dark.Or burn all the oxygen in the room, and outlast his enemies as they all suffocate, due to his luck and endurance, obviously.
I do like the suffocating his enemies and outlasting them, something I can see McClane improvising. Good show.
He's an alcoholic, he could use the alcohol in his urine as a combustible, pissing on Indy, knocking him back and casually tossing the Zippo at him. *cue witty line*
McClane chasing down a nazi truck convoy on horseback and overtaking it, all the while unarmed. Yeah, that'll happen. 🙄 And falling out of an airplane with nothing but a life raft and surviving, sure. And the fight scene in TLC, where Indy took on the entire nazi platoon and won, sure, McClane could do that.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
The room is well lit, einstein. You saying Indy has no luck? His luck rivals McClanes. Remember that part in IJaTLC when he took out like 6 nazis with one shot? And durability and pain endurance, remember in IJaTTOD when Indy was fighting the giant towelhead while being stabbed over and over in the back, and STILL won? I can go on and on and on.....
Well, Newton, it doesnt matter, the suffocation would render that a moot point for Indy.
Im not saying that Indy in his prime wasnt an impressive figure in the world of Luck and endurance.
But your comparing Jupiter (Indy) to Betelguese (McClane).
That wasnt literally being stabbed in the back.
Indy never bled from that- that was just evil voodoo, baby.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
McClane chasing down a nazi truck convoy on horseback and overtaking it, all the while unarmed. Yeah, that'll happen. 🙄 And falling out of an airplane with nothing but a life raft and surviving, sure. And the fight scene in TLC, where Indy took on the entire nazi platoon and won, sure, McClane could do that.
McClane chasing down a CIA/Marines filled 747 on helicopter back then over taking its wing, and destroying it with a mere Zippo, whilst simultaneously saving the planes by creating landing lights was more impressive.
You say that like jumping off a high rise building with nothing but a firehose wasnt as impressive.
McClane killed more Germans than Indy ever did. Fact.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Well, Newton, it doesnt matter, the suffocation would render that a moot point for Indy.Im not saying that Indy in his prime wasnt an impressive figure in the world of Luck and endurance.
But your comparing Jupiter (Indy) to Betelguese (McClane).
That wasnt literally being stabbed in the back.
Indy never bled from that- that was just evil voodoo, baby.
Bleed or not, he fought through the pain and pwned a man twice his size.
Shall we compare the h2h feats of Indy and McClane yet again? Hmm? Shall we compare all their strengths? I'll play if you will.
Originally posted by Robtard
I do like the suffocating his enemies and outlasting them, something I can see McClane improvising. Good show.He's an alcoholic, he could use the alcohol in his urine as a combustible, pissing on Indy, knocking him back and casually tossing the Zippo at him. *cue witty line*
Holy shit. I hadnt even considered that....! An excellent point.
A napalm uriny victory to the New Jersey slugger...!
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Bleed or not, he fought through the pain and pwned a man twice his size.Shall we compare the h2h feats of Indy and McClane yet again? Hmm? Shall we compare all their strengths? I'll play if you will.
Its not in your argument's interest to compare them.
McClane fought bigger guys the whole time.
Different bigger guys too.
Whenever Indy fought someone big in the 1st 3 films, it was always Pat Roach...! 😛
Originally posted by Sadako of GirthIt's not in my arguments interest to list them? I think you got it backwards. Indy fights h2h and wins h2h, while MClane fights h2h and loses regularly h2h.
Its not in your argument's interest to compare them.McClane fought bigger guys the whole time.
Different bigger guys too.
Whenever Indy fought someone big in the 1st 3 films, it was always Pat Roach...! 😛
McClane fought bigger guys the whole time? Example, please. Who is bigger than the bald nazi from Raiders? Or the towelhead from Temple of Doom? When did McClane ever jump onto a jeep with three trained soldiers and pwn them h2h in less than a few seconds? When has McClane took on a batallion/platoon/whatever of soldiers AND tanks and won? When has McClane ever chased down a nazi convoy on horseback, overtake said convoy, get shit, dragged under a truck, and still win? Hmm?
And lets not even start on who is smarter.
Never.
Oh really..? So we dont see Indy cheap shotting people left right and center...?
So Raiders of the lost ark saw Indy leap in and disarm that swordsman ith his whip or unarmed..?
......Or did he just shoot the guy...?
He shot the guy.
In temple of doom....how did Indy beat his big opponent you referred to...?
By way of accident in stone crushing machine or with his fists...?
End case.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
It's not in my arguments interest to list them? I think you got it backwards. Indy fights h2h and wins h2h, while MClane fights h2h and loses regularly h2h.McClane fought bigger guys the whole time? Example, please. Who is bigger than the bald nazi from Raiders? Or the towelhead from Temple of Doom? When did McClane ever jump onto a jeep with three trained soldiers and pwn them h2h in less than a few seconds? When has McClane took on a batallion/platoon/whatever of soldiers AND tanks and won? When has McClane ever chased down a nazi convoy on horseback, overtake said convoy, get shit, dragged under a truck, and still win? Hmm?
And lets not even start on who is smarter.
Never.
The russian in DH3.
McClanes feats against multiple, more dangerous than a few nazi soldiers opponents are well in order.
And surviving like he did is not the same as winning.
In Die Hard 2 he took on whole better trained platoons and won.
No need to retread old ground.
When Indy was done fighting, there was still a Nazi Germany left.
When McClane stops fighting, all his enemies are dead.
Smarter is a relative term.
Henry Jones is certainly well educated, but McClane outsmarted Gruber brothers, the CIA, world class mercenaries and lived to maim and kill again. Knowledge and intelligence are two different things.
I'd like to see how well Indy, with all the modern anti-terrorism knoweldge that 1930s Indy'll have, would get on against German terrorist from his future, in a futuristic environment like Nakatomi towers would be to him. Hell, he wont even know what the f**k a helicopter is, much less how to evade one shooting at him on a highrise rooftop.
Nuff said.
Originally posted by Sadako of GirthYeah, and McClane would never take a cheap shot. What WAS I thinking? 🙄
Oh really..? So we dont see Indy cheap shotting people left right and center...?
So Raiders of the lost ark saw Indy leap in and disarm that swordsman ith his whip or unarmed..?He was looking for Marion and couldnt be ****ed to take the time. Like your hero McClane using the SUV to kill the ninja chick, remember? He was too busy saving the world to fight her h2h to the finish. 😉......Or did he just shoot the guy...?
In temple of doom....how did Indy beat his big opponent you referred to...?Haaaaaaaaaa!!! Indy won the fight!!! Just as McClane won the fight against the ninja chick without using his hands, remember? Hmm? And how he blew up the jetliner, remember? Hmm? Doesnt matter to you HOW the opponent is killed, only that they are in fact killed. I knew that would come back to bite you in the ass one day haermm
By way of accident in stone crushing machine or with his fists...?End case.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Haaaaaaaaaa!!! Indy won the fight!!! Just as McClane won the fight against the ninja chick without using his hands, remember? Hmm? And how he blew up the jetliner, remember? Hmm? Doesnt matter to you HOW the opponent is killed, only that they are in fact killed. I knew that would come back to bite you in the ass one day haermm
How have you already forgotten that McClane KO'd her and could have killed her, if he so wished. You blatantly ignore this, McClane beat the ninja girl, spared her life, she got all yuppity about it, so then he killed her.
It was really a double-win in McClane's book and counts as two separate feats. Win by KO. Win by truck up the ass.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
The russian in DH3.McClanes feats against multiple, more dangerous than a few nazi soldiers opponents are well in order.
And surviving like he did is not the same as winning.In Die Hard 2 he took on whole better trained platoons and won.
No need to retread old ground.
When Indy was done fighting, there was still a Nazi Germany left.
When McClane stops fighting, all his enemies are dead.
Smarter is a relative term.
Henry Jones is certainly well educated, but McClane outsmarted Gruber brothers, the CIA, world class mercenaries and lived to maim and kill again. Knowledge and intelligence are two different things.I'd like to see how well Indy, with all the anti-terrorism knoweldge that 1930s Indy'll have, would get on against German terrorist from his future, in a futuristic environment like Nakatomi towers would be to him. Hell, he wont even know what the f**k a helicopter is, much less how to evade one shooting at him on a highrise rooftop.
Nuff said.
Indy always achieves his goals, he never loses, what difference does it make if his enemies are dead or not? Victory is Victory.
And I'd like to see how McClane would do in the fight in The Last Crusade, against umpteen Nazis and tanks. I'd like to see McClane escape the cave from Raiders. I'd like to see McClane reclaim the Ark from the nazi convoy.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Yeah, and McClane would never take a cheap shot. What WAS I thinking? 🙄He was looking for Marion and couldnt be ****ed to take the time. Like your hero McClane using the SUV to kill the ninja chick, remember? He was too busy saving the world to fight her h2h to the finish. 😉
Haaaaaaaaaa!!! Indy won the fight!!! Just as McClane won the fight against the ninja chick without using his hands, remember? Hmm? And how he blew up the jetliner, remember? Hmm? Doesnt matter to you HOW the opponent is killed, only that they are in fact killed. I knew that would come back to bite you in the ass one day haermm
No its just proved my point, if anything.
And that you have been dodging admitting it in the past through sheer and willful McIgnorance.
Finally you have no excuse, having now admitted to Mcunderstanding this analogy, for your ninja chick superiority claims.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Indy always achieves his goals, he never loses, what difference does it make if his enemies are dead or not? Victory is Victory.And I'd like to see how McClane would do in the fight in The Last Crusade, against umpteen Nazis and tanks. I'd like to see McClane escape the cave from Raiders. I'd like to see McClane reclaim the Ark from the nazi convoy.
One would argue that if your enemies are all alive, then, that you are not as good at killing people as McClane is.
Well, no doubt McClane would.
List ALL of the umpteen tanks.
Cause I gotta know what umpteen is as a number exactly.