Why Are Atheists Moral

Originally posted by dadudemon
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LMFAO.

Excessive much with your hyphenated adjective? That was as excessive as the joint in my sig. 😉

LOL, I just read it again and its still made me "lol".

Anyway, I don't know how you would search for what DK is looking for. You would have to remember specific examples and then use the search feature for them...the search feature on this board is not good enough, imo, to provide DK with adequate evidence to support your case....unless you can remember specific examples. I don't know what they call it in a court but you may have to concede the point because of lack of evidence. 😕

It's not hard, in this thread alone there are a number of non-existant examples of his lack of evidence.

Originally posted by Devil King
It's not hard, in this thread alone there are a number of non-existant examples of his lack of evidence.

In your opinion. A statement on the internet is not fact.

Originally posted by dadudemon
No, I am a Mormon who has atheistic doubts. I swing back and forth all the time.

I can and will continue to have conflicting ideals. It doesn't matter that you don't agree with it. I can, will, and do have atheistic thoughts and actions. Sometimes, it gets to the point to where I know that religion is a farce and atheism the obvious and correct choice. Again, I can and will continue to flip-flop on a whim between atheism and Mormonism.

Who said I was willfully cutting out God? Who's to say that what you say is true? So you mean to tell me that all of a sudden "POOF!" someone is atheist and never looks back again? Dude, you have to allow for doubt in something like theism vs. atheism. (I read back over my point here...and it seems rather antagonistic on my part.)

Great...usually neither do it. This is my point and why we disagree. It is NOT a simple black and white process. If it was, then it would be a simple decision and there would be no such things as doubter on either side. There may come a time when I completely discard atheism ideals...but that most certainly is not now.

Neither. He would be saying what you are saying...except flipping the words and ideas "atheism" and "mormonism".

That should be obvious. But since you and I are discussing it, that is the restriction I put into that sentence.

I do no subscribe to the thought that I should earn money to do good, I believe that I earn money for my own personal selfish needs without regards for a God or doing good. Unless I am forced to, God never enters into the equation or my thoughts when it comes to things of money.

I could even post scriptures that Mormons believe that directly contradict my thoughts.

Are you talking about things like WWJD? (What Would Jesus Do) I strongly disagree with your point of view. I would say that the vast majority of people rely on their religious beliefs to govern their behaviors (the ones they view as debatable, moral, etc.) in some form or another. This would not be the case with an atheist who takes no thought or regard to things like "WWJD"; God or things of God would not enter into the equation.

Sounds like you misinterpreted my perspective when I answered your question about being created in the image of Santa God.

Remember this?

Sounds pretty consistent that I am conflicted with a theistic and an atheistic perspective. Do you agree?

Oh. Well I'm glad that I'm not one of those people.

Hypocritical? If you say I am, I am.

I'm still lost. When did I accuse of something? If I was wrong, I will definitely admit fault and apologize.

Heh heh, I learned more about succeeding at life by working for my money...something that I couldn't/didn't learn in a school building or Church.

Look man, I don't define your stance, you do.

But what you can not do is define yourself as half mormon and half atheist. Repeatedly I have addressed healthy skepticism. Skepticism is a natural and widely regarded aspect of faith, from Mother Theresa on down to the people she "helped". But to claim that you are atheist one mintue and mormon the next, based clearly on your own claims that you dismiss your religion when it is convient for you, you add credence to neither your claim to be mormon nor your claim to be atheist. That simply is not how religion works. The over all meaning to your post seems to be that you are confused, as are most human beings; hence the human responce of religion at all. And organized religion is a seperate matter. But the consistantly hypocritical nature of your claim of daily family prayer and weekly visits to the church despite your supposed atheist tendancies are simply not comprable. If anything, it sounds like you resort to atheism as a matter of argument and not practice.That's not atheism, that's religion! That's exactly the problem with most people who claim religion. When a person gets to a point of desperation, they turn to a god they see as their own personal on-call genie, not a being independant of his followers and jugdemental of their actions. That's something akin to thinking that the "creator of the universe" is sitting on the edge of his seat, waiting for you to need him, waiting for your validation. That isn't mormon, that isn't christian and that certainly isn't theist and it is far from atheist.

Originally posted by TheMockingbird
In your opinion. A statement on the internet is not fact.

Your socking aside, that was not my opinion, nor my claim.

Originally posted by Devil King
Look man, I don't define your stance, you do.

But what you can not do is define yourself as half mormon and half atheist. Repeatedly I have addressed healthy skepticism. Skepticism is a natural and widely regarded aspect of faith, from Mother Theresa on down to the people she "helped". But to claim that you are atheist one mintue and mormon the next, based clearly on your own claims that you dismiss your religion when it is convient for you, adds credence to neither your claim to be mormon nor your claim to be atheist. That simply is not how religion works. The over all meaning to your post seems to be that you are confused, as are most human beings are; hence the human creation of religion at all. And organized religion is a seperate matter. But the consistantly hypocritical nature of your claim of daily family prayer and weekly visits to the church despite your supposed atheist tendancies are simply not comprable. If anything, it sounds like you resort to atheism as a matter of argument and not practice.That's not atheism, that's religion! That's exactly the problem with most people who claim religion. When a person gets to a point of desperation, they turn to a god they see as their own personal on-call genie, not a being independant of his followers and jugdemental of their actions. That's something akin to thinking that the "creator of the universe" is sitting on the edge of his seat, waiting for you to need him, waiting for your validation. That isn't mormon, that isn't christian and that certainly isn't theist.

Such a silly reply to an equally silly post.

Originally posted by Devil King
Your socking aside, that was not my opinion, nor my claim.

You seem bothered.

Originally posted by mocked by me
You seem bothered.

Well, I don't have a quater to feed the fish, so I guess that will have to do.

Originally posted by Devil King
Well, I don't have a quater to feed the fish, so I guess that will have to do.

I guess............. It's not a fact though, is it?

Originally posted by mocked by me
I guess............. It's not a fact though, is it?

However you want to define it, Miss Daisy.

All I know is that the more you post the bigger your dick gets and the more women love you.

Originally posted by Devil King
However you want to define it, Miss Daisy.

All I know is that the more you post the bigger your dick gets and the more women love you.

Why talk about my dick.....?

Originally posted by -Bored now
Why talk about my dick.....?

Because it's so big.

Originally posted by Devil King
Because it's so big.

Is that why? 😉

Originally posted by -Bored now
Is that why? 😉

no, it's the total ownage really.

Originally posted by Devil King
no, it's the total ownage really.

We are from the internets. Whatever "ownage" is? Do you talk like that in real life whilst you play dngeons and dragons. So why mention my penis? You want it to own you to? Never happen.

Please, let's not ruin the topic

Originally posted by Devil King
So, you did not claim that all posts you've made are directed generally, and not specifically?

and you care so little that you said anything at all? Is that not what you're saying now?

I listen to you just fine, like I have for the last three years of posts and private messages. The apparent disconnect in logic between one statement and the next aren't relevant?

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Originally posted by chithappens
Please, let's not ruin the topic

Too late.

That's right. A certain someone always gotta turn a usual discussion into a drama fest. 🙄

What usual discussion?

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