Batman VS Captain America: MA contest

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Is being adept in all forms of combat being the same as mastering them? I mean Cap spent a majority of his years frozen.

I don't think so, as even Moon Knight was said to be versatlile in all martial arts as well

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Originally posted by Sado22
personally i give the slight edge to bruce on account of being the better martial artist. not only does he know more MA's than cap he also knows some lethal moves (of couse he won't do them here). now a simple question, does SSS offer some sort of healing factor? i was just wondering since cap seems to have insane endurance. of course its not like logan's or Deadpool's but does he heal faster than a normal human?

at any rate, the point i'm trying to make is that bruce can break Cap's leg or arm and just KO him? Cap wasn't "blunt trauma proof". just a thought though. i'm open to opinions.

I'm giving it to bruce 5.5/10 for the time being though.

~Sado

I think it has been discussed on this thread that cap knows at least as many ma as bats. My question would be even if cap jusyt knew boxing would that mean bats could take him. Knowing lots of martial arts does not make you the most effective fighter. Royce Gracie only really was adept in BJJ and he was unstoppable for a while

Batman is def the better martial artist, I'm not sure about who's the better fighter though

Originally posted by Master-Borg
Batman is def the better martial artist, I'm not sure about who's the better fighter though

Whats your evidence for this?

Originally posted by severance
Whats your evidence for this?

whereas Cap seems to just train to fight

I think it has been discussed on this thread that cap knows at least as many ma as bats. My question would be even if cap jusyt knew boxing would that mean bats could take him. Knowing lots of martial arts does not make you the most effective fighter. Royce Gracie only really was adept in BJJ and he was unstoppable for a while

~Sado

Originally posted by Sado22
i know what you mean. however, hasn't bruce faced tougher MA's than Cap. i'm asking btw.

~Sado

Dunno

Originally posted by Master-Borg
the fact that Batman specifically traveled the world learning all the martial arts by some of the best masters

whereas Cap seems to just train to fight

Well cap is adept at every martial art known to man (he even has his own style)
But I am not sure of your distinction here: is the best martial artist the one that knows the most styles or the one that would win the fight? IMHO it has to be the latter as this is the whole purpose of martial arts - its not just for posing.

as a practitioner myself, i find that it helps to cut the flashy stuff out and focus on fundamentals. tkd is very flashy but mostly useless i found out during sparring. muay thai, savate, or kickboxing skills win most fights on the feet then wrestling and bjj on the ground.

in essence, cap is a kickboxing, acrobatic wrestler that doesn't tire so he may have an edge

Originally posted by psycho gundam
as a practitioner myself, i find that it helps to cut the flashy stuff out and focus on fundamentals. tkd is very flashy but mostly useless i found out during sparring. muay thai, savate, or kickboxing skills win most fights on the feet then wrestling and bjj on the ground.

in essence, cap is a kickboxing, acrobatic wrestler that doesn't tire so he may have an edge

There is no may here. It would be close in some bouts but Cap gets 10/10 wins.

if both fighters aren't holding back...batman wins via one-hit killing blows

cap getting dim makked is kinda hard to swallow

The title of this thread is quite misleading.

If this were a true contest of martial skill, I'd give the nod to Batman.

In a simple hand to hand fight, however, Cap takes the win seventy five percent of the time.

Originally posted by Master-Borg
if both fighters aren't holding back...batman wins via one-hit killing blows

Captain America knows one-hit kills as well.

However, he doesn't even need them. If he doesn't hold back, he's strong enough to kill a man with a regular old straight cross.

Yeah, if this is a contest of who's better in MA's, i'd probably give the nod to Bruce.

If its a fight to win, Cap gets the nod. Its like the fight with Iron Fist. Danny was probably better at MA's, but as Cap said, "your not near good enough" (or something on that line. I'm pretty sure the scans in Caps respect thread.)

Originally posted by tkitna
Yeah, if this is a contest of who's better in MA's, i'd probably give the nod to Bruce.

If its a fight to win, Cap gets the nod. Its like the fight with Iron Fist. Danny was probably better at MA's, but as Cap said, "your not near good enough" (or something on that line. I'm pretty sure the scans in Caps respect thread.)

Yea get the scan.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
as a practitioner myself, i find that it helps to cut the flashy stuff out and focus on fundamentals. tkd is very flashy but mostly useless i found out during sparring. muay thai, savate, or kickboxing skills win most fights on the feet then wrestling and bjj on the ground.

in essence, cap is a kickboxing, acrobatic wrestler that doesn't tire so he may have an edge

I completely agree with you, I,ve taken MA's for a while myself, and over the time that i have, I've learned that the more styles you know the weaker at them you become (Jack of all trades, Master of none). It would be impossible for a man to master all MA styles. I have a Kung Fu, and Judo background, and I'm telling you that it took me 17 years to become pretty ok at the both. Bruce can't be a master at all styles it would take him roughly 250 years to pull that off.

Cap should win this by attrition.

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
Yea get the scan.

I completely agree with you, I,ve taken MA's for a while myself, and over the time that i have, I've learned that the more styles you know the weaker at them you become (Jack of all trades, Master of none). It would be impossible for a man to master all MA styles. I have a Kung Fu, and Judo background, and I'm telling you that it took me 17 years to become pretty ok at the both. Bruce can't be a master at all styles it would take him roughly 250 years to pull that off.

Cap should win this by attrition.

Yeah, and people can't fly and shoot lasers from their eyes.

It's a comic book. Deal with it.

Originally posted by tkitna
Yeah, if this is a contest of who's better in MA's, i'd probably give the nod to Bruce.

If its a fight to win, Cap gets the nod. Its like the fight with Iron Fist. Danny was probably better at MA's, but as Cap said, "your not near good enough" (or something on that line. I'm pretty sure the scans in Caps respect thread.)

Batman is the more skilled and better martial artist. Cap's SSS gives him the edge here and should win the majority in a fight between these two.

Originally posted by severance
Bane and killer croc are barely superpowered. My point is Cap has all day to train Bruce doesn't. Wasn't suggesting Bruce doesn't train hard. Also becaus eof SSS Steve can recover faster than Bruce from his training so he can train harder for longer. As he has peak human reflexes and strength etc. he will be better than Bruce at fighting it is as simple as that