Originally posted by thadarknite84
I think batman is a better h2h fighter because his style is more unorthodox than Captain America's fighting style and even without his equipment, Batman can still use his capes weighted tips as weapons against him
IN the scan on cap with him pointing to the A. isnt that the same captain that tangoed with the friggin hulk. Laid some nice blows and knocked the Hulk on his his ass may it be only for a little bit doesn't t that mean his strikes would pretty much devastate bruce? I know h2h is not a huge factor when ur talking to master MAs but it def helps. So what i'm saying that Cap will take the win if neither one has any sort of gadgets or weapons.
Originally posted by thadarknite84
What other weapons do Captain America have besides his shield?
Well if it's just a h2h fight, I would have to go with Batman all the way. They may both be peak human but there is a difference. Batman really has what it takes to be peak human and Cap was part of an experiment to be what he is. And like I said before, Batman is more unorthodox than Captain America in terms of fighting. Batman has MASTERED every known fighting style on earth and in a h2h fight with Cap. Batman only needs what can't be taken away...his keen intelligent mind to beat Cap.
We're talking about the same Batman that took out Bane, Killer Croc, and the Man-bat. All of them have greater strength than Batman. And that's not even including what he gos up against as a member of the J.L.A. Like the 4 White Martians he defeated. 3 of them he defeated by using Gasoline and a to set a fire around them. Just one more example of Batman using his keen analogical mind
I've always felt Bats and Cap were equals overall. With Cap having superior stats and Batman having superior skill.
Originally posted by Mindset
Actually Batman taking on White Martians is one more example of Batman wanking by writers.
He had fire on his side every time. Plus they thought he was dead.
Originally posted by thadarknite84
We're talking about the same Batman that took out Bane, Killer Croc, and the Man-bat. All of them have greater strength than Batman. And that's not even including what he gos up against as a member of the J.L.A. Like the 4 White Martians he defeated. 3 of them he defeated by using Gasoline and a to set a fire around them. Just one more example of Batman using his keen analogical mind
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I've always felt Bats and Cap were equals overall. With Cap having superior stats and Batman having superior skill.He had fire on his side every time. Plus they thought he was dead.
Maybe I'm remembering wrong, but I seem to remember him fighting them up close when MM was captured by them.
Originally posted by Soljer
*cough*Hulk
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King Thor
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Onslaught
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WOW!!! I sure hope you're not implying that Cap has actually defeated these people. 😆
This is amazing, it seems as though people somehow think that Cap's artificially created Physique is the equal or better to that of Batman. Which i find hilarious 😂 .
Batman is a TRUE warrior. The man has attained a level of fitness that borders on Supernatural, a Mind as sharp as a blade and a motivation toward perfection.
I feel it an insult to compare Cap w/ his Super Soldier Serum to Batman w/ his talent and dedication. How could a man that has been hand fed his abilities and tactics even compare to one who has TRAVELED THE WORLD specifically to train himself to be able to handle any situations that he may face.
I'm sorry man but Training beats a "Silver Spoon" method every time ( assuming that the end results are the same).
I am willing to bet that Cap has never trained to the level of difficulty that Batman has, mainly because his serum doesn't require him to.
Also just because 2 people know the same style(s) doesn't mean they're equal, skill and talent and training play a HUGE role as well.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
You cant prove that Batman is a better MA than Cap. Cap knows lots of styles as well. Batman fought Cap H2H and said it seemed if Cap almost had the advantage. Even without the SSS hes beaten martial experts and made Thunderstrike look silly. The SSS gives him the advantage without it it would probably be a draw.Apparently it was stated in WW2 that he had mastered every style but I dont have the scan.
Adept doesn't mean Mastered, it means skilled. It's impossible for someone to master every MA known to man and that includes Batman and his 127 or whatever styles that he has studied. Do you know how many of those styles would be overlapping and basically the same? It proves nothing to master them all but to take unique parts of each one does.
Taskmaster FTW!!!