Originally posted by Phantom ZoneWhat "machine"? Take a verbatim passage from that scan describing said machine which isn't a countervibrational artifact in the form of either something introduced into the CNS or a barrier/cell?
Im refering to the machine. 😐I know it doesnt but as I said the speedforce distorts time and space so to counter it, the machine has to do it also.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Which are being manipulated by the speedforce. 🙄
Which are not the speeforce themeselves,they are just fast moving molecules,that aren't being manipulated through time or space,they are just urning gaseous like fast moving molecules would.
Plus it even says it bonds to his spine,soo it disrupted flashes molecules,not the speedforce.
God,is it that hard to understand...
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Right so how hes going to make these artifacts vibrate?
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
That just goes to show you havnet read anything I posted. In tower of Babel he did not use the countermeasures that I posted in the scan I also gave an explanation to the scan. Read it.
Originally posted by Phantom ZoneI'm sorry I'm still searching for a reference to a machine, that will somehow turn into a time travel device, being referred to in the scan, like you said it was.
People that have read that have said that drugs were used. 😬 Again thats not the machine thats is mentioned in the countermeasures.
I'm also still trying to determine the discrepancy between what was done in Tower of Babel, and what's actually referred to in the scan posted.
Yes, a machine that "forces Speed Force" into bullets is obviously what he did and not a baseless speculation. If you attach a toaster to this machine it becomes an entirely new time travel device, like how a fax machine is just a phone with a toaster strapped to it.
Originally posted by Phantom ZoneAnd on another occasion Surfer managed to disable one... plus, I believe that was before a couple power ups from Surfer anyway...
On one ocassions SS, Thing, Mr F, and the human torch could not stop the Punisher robot., so yeah on one showing they're SS stomping robots.Also they're SS stomping robots because added invulnerability matter manipulation so a hero cant just easily alter their molecular structure ofr the win.
Even if they stalemated him thats pretty damn good.
Thanx for the info. Frank is going to make 1000s of Punisher robots. If several dozen can blow up Sanctuary imagine what 100 could do...brilliant. 👆
They're around Surfer level.
So... wouldn't that destroy Punisher in the process? 😂
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Still doesnt matter I dont seem to be doing that bad especially when most people think that Frank Castle can use the ring in 1 year to beat Thing. 131Furthermore I stated at the beginning of this thread that Frank gets his own personal battery recharger, so if he uses the ring for personal gain he wont get any messages from Oa because its not hardwired to the central battery.
Because you said so, brilliant.
Yeah so? You keep making this statement that if somebody allows pain to define who they are they cant use the ring. You showed Batman having some trouble with the ring for the first time and actually managed to get it under control, notice how the bats disappeared? Hell the image of his parents disappeared, why did it disappear since Batman said "I dont want to", im assuming thats because he didnt want to project the image anymore.
Yes but you also stated that using the ring to instill fear in others will hinder his performance. Sinestro did this and it didnt stop him from using the GL ring.
Irrelevant you know what im talking about. Stop shouting your a mod.
How does that change my point? killing people instills fear, nobody had any trouble with the ring when they started doing it. Intilling fear in others doesnt hinder the performance of the ring...you see the response of one of the sinestro corps members?
Anyway its his own personal ring he can do what he wants. I stated at the beginning of the thread.
Er you keep making this unfounded statement that if somebody is defined by loss they cant use the ring. Batman used the ring he had trouble but he got it under control. Even if he cant get over his loss with enough willpower he can still use the ring. The point is that in the real world people get better over time, unless you can prove that this is not the case in the comic world we can assume that with enough willpower he can still use the ring.
Chuck water over somebody in the real world they get wet, its the same in the comic world unless evidence is given.
So why cant he put it behind him for the purposes of this thread? Hell even if he cant you havent proven that he cant use it.
Anyway doesnt matter because his ring isnt connected to the central battery its his own personal GL ring, stated at the beginning of the thread.
Stop shouting and swearing your a mod. You missed the point. Hal is the greatest Gl that lived but he is still subject to limitations like other GLs but because he is better he is less limited. YOU said that fear hinders the ability to use the ring, if that were true then when Coast city got destroyed his power should have been reduced. Hal does have great feats when his power starts to run it but the fact he is the greatest GL doesnt mean that this reduces his potential.
Anyway it doesnt matter because its his own personal ring. I stated this at the beginning of the thread.
first: don't presume to tell me how to behave... if i have to raise my voice, its because you aren't listening and keep missing the point, yet maintain some stupid argument based on no foundation whatsoever given that your knowledge of green lantern is poorer than my six year old sister...
second: read gl, then try to form a decent argument, until then, im done wasting my time...
Originally posted by batdude123You forgot the giggle... but I'll let it slide. This time. uhuh
Oh you... vin
I particularly like how in this one Punisher uses his surgery-performing willpower to make a Oan Starheart Batmagic Speedforce-powered time machine. Because that's what it says Batman can do in his files, which Punisher inexplicably has.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Bro he has 100years of training. Frank has one of the strongest willpowers in the MU, that will make him a very powerful GL I dont think sub-skyfather level is absurd. 1 Punisher robot is capable of stomping 1 high herald character. He can even use the ring to replicate more of them........
That willpower is below Doom.
Originally posted by -Pr-
What powers do the robots have?
Sorry can't copy and paste but basically they're are beastly. One Punisher robot is tough enough to take on a high-herald character.