Doomsday HP vs Thanos

Originally posted by Bentley
The difference between the OE and genetic manipulation is that the manipulation goes straight to DD's powers, its like destroying the sun when fighting Superman Prime or giving hit a sun-destroying hit.

What? You are making no sense. Does anyone know what he's talking about. Isn't genetics based on the combination of molecules and atoms that make up a being? If one has nearly invincible atoms and molecules then how can you tamper with them? This is like saying that if I move Superman's arm this way and his leg that way then Superman becomes a pretzel. But one would need an incredible force to move Superman's arms and legs period. DD's makeup is the same way. You just can't move his atoms around without sufficient force. For his atoms is obviously bonded far stronger than a normal material object's is.

And if one could do it then wouldn't this be one-shotting DD?

Well, that at least is an honest attempt to answer my question. Genetics is basically the content of a certain carbon based structures that sends information and allows cells to communicate with each other, while encoding takes place at molecular level, communication takes place at cellular level.

This idea of "near invincible atoms" sound fishy, since I don't know any reference to DD that implies his atoms are any different than others. I suppose that depending on the genetic manipulation DD could evolve to tamper it, but sadly since his mutations are due to his DNA he would not be able to comply given a manipulation thats fast enough.

DNA manipulation should be the obvious Achilles heel of DD but the fans keep saying it won't work. providing no actual argument to the contrary of course.

Thanos should win this without any trouble.

Originally posted by h1a8
I'm not even saying HP DD can survive anything. That is how I know you guys are bias. For bias people aren't good listeners. I was merely saying that if an attack doesn't end HP DD right away then he would simply evolve to become immune to that attack. But if Thanos can one-shot HP DD somehow then he wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Your opinion is based on a lack of Thanos knowledge for one. You never answered my other post about Doomsday being defeated afterwards by either Gog or Imperiex. If this is the case and I was right then your theory is o so wrong.

Are you saying that HP DD can't evolve after an attack (if the attack doesn't kill him)?

DD was never defeated by Gog and Imperiex one-shotted DD (the only way to win).

Wait - since when does Doomsday evolve on the fly? In HP Doomsday had evolved past Kryptonian abilities and powers - Superman has withstood the Omega beams before. Please show me where Doomsday has evolved "on the fly" during a battle against somone he has never battled before and is initially physically superior.

There is no evidence that Doomsday had evolved past the OE.

Originally posted by Bentley
Well, that at least is an honest attempt to answer my question. Genetics is basically the content of a certain carbon based structures that sends information and allows cells to communicate with each other, while encoding takes place at molecular level, communication takes place at cellular level.

This idea of "near invincible atoms" sound fishy, since I don't know any reference to DD that implies his atoms are any different than others. I suppose that depending on the genetic manipulation DD could evolve to tamper it, but sadly since his mutations are due to his DNA he would not be able to comply given a manipulation thats fast enough.

His makeup (including atoms) have to be nearly invincible since the OE itself couldn't fell him. Its possible that DD is not made out of the traditional atoms we think (with electrons and protons). He could be made out of some other form of matter that man doesn't know much about, like some Super dark matter or Source material (maybe can explain why the OE didn't work). He also seems to have nearly complete control of his structure as well as this control guides his instant evolution and fuels his strong HF.

Thanos, SS, WWH, Superman, etc. can't be easily DNA manipulated or transmuted (Superman though magic though). Why? Because either they have control of their structures, have a strong HF, or have a protective aura surrounding him. HP DD definitely has the first two and possibly the third one also (as shown in his last fight with Radiant).

Originally posted by Grammaton
Wait - since when does Doomsday evolve on the fly? In HP Doomsday had evolved past Kryptonian abilities and powers - Superman has withstood the Omega beams before. Please show me where Doomsday has evolved "on the fly" during a battle against somone he has never battled before and is initially physically superior.

There is no evidence that Doomsday had evolved past the OE.

The sonic gun and lightsaber weren't Kryptonian abilities or powers. And yet you seen DD evovle past them. So that is your evidence that he can.

In conclusion, since there is evidence he can and no evidence that he can't then he certainly can.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Superman is a dc character while Thanos is a marvel one. So that explains why they have never met. 😂

Doomsday wouldnt slaughter Thanos at all. He could take what Doomsday could dish out.

Originally posted by Grammaton
HP Doomsday doesn't evolve past every attack in the universe - that was only Superman and his Kryptonian abilities (including the Kryptonian weapons). The only way HP Doomsday evolves past Thanos is if he dies (presuming he loses) and comes back.

How about the radiant's pure energy?

Or that of Waverider?

Oh I know, how about that of the GL corpse?

Wow, I wasn't aware all of those people were Kryptonians.. 😕

Originally posted by h1a8
The sonic gun and lightsaber weren't Kryptonian abilities or powers. And yet you seen DD evovle past them. So that is your evidence that he can.

In conclusion, since there is evidence he can and no evidence that he can't then he certainly can.

The weapons used by Superman in HP are all Kryptonian (motherbox equipped Superman with the Kryptonian outfit and weaponry) - Doomsday evolved past Kryptonian powers and abilities when he died in battle against Superman.

Where is the evidence that he can evolve on the fly? And you still haven't answered my last question.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Ok...I havent read it but hasnt Doomsday since come back and been killed by Gog and by Imperiex?

gog no... Imperiex yes.

Originally posted by janus77
DNA manipulation should be the obvious Achilles heel of DD but the fans keep saying it won't work. providing no actual argument to the contrary of course.

Thanos should win this without any trouble.

Well Doomsday rex went down to it, and came back, so technically DD would be evolved past it... However I'm with H1 here in that the OE should be > genetic manipulation.

Originally posted by Grammaton
The weapons used by Superman in HP are all Kryptonian (motherbox equipped Superman with the Kryptonian outfit and weaponry) - Doomsday evolved past Kryptonian powers and abilities when he died in battle against Superman.

Where is the evidence that he can evolve on the fly? And you still haven't answered my last question.

during the HP arc.. 😕 His auditory canals closed up to sonic weapons when Supes used them against him.

When he couldn't fly up to get Clark he blasted him with projectile bone claws.

And DOS... his strength wasn't enough so he got stronger as the battle continued.

His rage wasn't enough to get passed a GL forcefield so his will increased.

Originally posted by Grammaton
Both going all out...Who wins?

Thanos does very well versus unintelligent bricks.

Thanos would find a way to outthink Doomsday rather then having a slugfest with him as other dumbers guys have a habit of doing.

Originally posted by h1a8
Are you saying that HP DD can't evolve after an attack (if the attack doesn't kill him)?

DD was never defeated by Gog and Imperiex one-shotted DD (the only way to win).

Originally posted by jinzin
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Originally posted by jinzin
during the HP arc.. 😕 His auditory canals closed up to sonic weapons when Supes used them against him.

When he couldn't fly up to get Clark he blasted him with projectile bone claws.

And DOS... his strength wasn't enough so he got stronger as the battle continued.

His rage wasn't enough to get passed a GL forcefield so his will increased.

There is no proof that DD evolved these attributes on the fly - after DOS Doomsday logically would have evolved to counteract Superman's powers. My point is DOS DD had evolved into HP DD once he had been killed - and already had these new abilities he displayed.

Originally posted by Grammaton
The weapons used by Superman in HP are all Kryptonian (motherbox equipped Superman with the Kryptonian outfit and weaponry) - Doomsday evolved past Kryptonian powers and abilities when he died in battle against Superman.

Where is the evidence that he can evolve on the fly? And you still haven't answered my last question.

Originally posted by jinzin
Well Doomsday rex went down to it, and came back, so technically DD would be evolved past it... However I'm with H1 here in that the OE should be > genetic manipulation.

If we knew how the OE works for sure I would wholeheartly agree with you, but unless we know the basis there can be something that could be simply blocked by DD's regular defenses.