Doomsday HP vs Thanos

Originally posted by Grammaton
there has been no evidence that he can even evolve on the fly

Are you Satan? Nothing but lies is coming from your posts.
You simply cannot tell the truth can you? Are you a pathological liar?

Isn't the closing of DD's ear canals evolving on the fly?
Isn't the claw send an evidence to evolving on the fly?
Is 1+1=2?
What about the writer's intention?
It was clearly shown in Superman's narrative, "HE EVOLVED...BECAME IMPERVIOUS TO MY WEAPON!"

If this isn't evidence to evolving on the fly then I don't know what is.
If this post doesn't convince you then your credibility is lost and nothing you say will be taken seriously.

Originally posted by h1a8
By the way, I am a terrible speller (always been). I am an excellent Mathematician and a decent Physicist though.
How do you know the weapons were Kryptonian? We need proof (not speculation).

Aren't sonics universal? Why does it make a difference that the weapon is Kryptonian? Sound is sound my friend. Doesn't matter if it came from a Shiar sonic gun.

Also, the motherbox analyzes the opponent when it makes weapons.
This is why every weapon Superman used actually worked on DD. It was that DD evolved to become immune to them.

You are the only one in existence that think HP DD can't evolve on the fly when he has shown it countless times. Honestly, I don't think you read the book. If you did, then you certainly wouldn't have missed this new power that DD didn't have before (Superman even commented on it).

Lastly, you are ignoring the other evidences. Such as the GL's, the Guardians, the OE, the Radiant, etc. Surely these aren't kryptonian too are they?

Im glad to see your being modest. I dont care if you can spell or not - you "tried" to insult me by asking me how old I was.

If you want proof the weapons were Kryptonian - read Hunter Prey (somthing im not convinced you've done as yet).

Let me try and simplify this for you evidently this has become beyond your grasp to understand.

Doomsday was killed in DOS by a Kyptonian - now in HP it is clearly stated by Bertron that should Doomsday be killed he will return stronger (on on the fly). So it makes sense that in HP during the rematch Doomsday has already evolved past Kryptonians including Kryptonian weaponry.

NOTHING suggests that he has evolved on the FLY - once again WHY didnt Doomsday display these attributes in DOS when Superman was flying around and using heat vision.

Doomsday must be killed before he returns better and evolved.

How am I ignoring other evidence. When Doomsday first fought the Radiant he did not evolve "on the fly" - it was only after he was killed by Radiant did he evolve past the Radiant and become immune to his attack. Everything I have stated supports my theory.

Doomsday can not evolve past Thanos during a fight (this does not mean he will lose). Should he be killed by Thanos and return however - he will surely be stronger/better the NEXT time they fight.

Originally posted by h1a8
Are you Satan? Nothing but lies is coming from your posts.
You simply cannot tell the truth can you? Are you a pathological liar?

Are you infact stupid?...

Read the above post and come back to me.

Originally posted by Grammaton

If you want proof the weapons were Kryptonian - read Hunter Prey (somthing im not convinced you've done as yet).

Doomsday was killed in DOS by a Kyptonian - now in HP it is clearly stated by Bertron that should Doomsday be killed he will return stronger (on on the fly). So it makes sense that in HP during the rematch Doomsday has already evolved past Kryptonians including Kryptonian weaponry.

NOTHING suggests that he has evolved on the FLY - once again WHY didnt Doomsday display these attributes in DOS when Superman was flying around and using heat vision.

Doomsday must be killed before he returns better and evolved.

How am I ignoring other evidence. When Doomsday first fought the Radiant he did not evolve "on the fly" - it was only after he was killed by Radiant did he evolve past the Radiant and become immune to his attack. Everything I have stated supports my theory.

Doomsday can not evolve past Thanos during a fight (this does not mean he will lose). Should he be killed by Thanos and return however - he will surely be stronger/better the NEXT time they fight.

And the reason why I ask how old you were was because I felt you were very young since you couldn't understand the obvious many cases of DD evolving on the fly in HP.

Note: Being young sure beats the hell out of being on drugs or stupid. So it wasn't such a big insult as saying "What have you been smoking?" or "Are you stupid or something?"

Originally posted by h1a8
Are you Satan? Nothing but lies is coming from your posts.
You simply cannot tell the truth can you? Are you a pathological liar?

- The above does nothing to support your claims to being a "mathematician" or a "physicist". Please let me make it clear that I am not Satan, a pathological liar, on drugs or "young" - and your presumptions are about as clever as you seem to be.

Anyway I have 1 question for you. If the above in your post as you say is true - the WHAT is the difference between DOS Doomsday and HP Doomsday. Surely in DOS - Doomsday would have done what he did in HP? Which he DIDN'T. Explain this.

"Have you ever though about the fact that the rate of DD's evolutionary process speeded up to the point where he can now evolve while living (and not necessarily after death)?"

- So your saying Doomsday has evolved the ability to evolve...?

Your theories and posts are beginning to sound ridiculous.

Originally posted by Grammaton
Originally posted by h1a8
Are you Satan? Nothing but lies is coming from your posts.
You simply cannot tell the truth can you? Are you a pathological liar?

With that said, what would you expect someone to say if another said that there is no evidence to suggest that DD made Superman bleed? What would you think? You didn't exactly say that DD doesn't evolve on the fly, but rather "there is no evidence" that DD evolved on the fly. This is a big difference my friend. What do you expect a person to think here? Well that is exactly how I thought when I was befuddled of your stance that HP DD didn't ever show any evidence that he can evolve on the fly. I mean I'm thinking that this is more against common sense than 1+1=3 is.

So please be humble and admit your fault. And again, I'm sorry for my earlier comments. You just got on one of my common sense nerves that's all. 😂

- So your saying Doomsday has evolved the ability to evolve faster?

But maybe all this stuff is moot anyway. As DD has taken greater things than a Thanos blast and a Thanos punch before. I don't quite see DD even needing to evolve past Thanos since Thanos won't be putting a scratch on him anyway. What do you think?

Originally posted by Grammaton
Im glad to see your being modest. I dont care if you can spell or not - you "tried" to insult me by asking me how old I was.

If you want proof the weapons were Kryptonian - read Hunter Prey (somthing im not convinced you've done as yet).

Let me try and simplify this for you evidently this has become beyond your grasp to understand.

Doomsday was killed in DOS by a Kyptonian - now in HP it is clearly stated by Bertron that should Doomsday be killed he will return stronger (on on the fly). So it makes sense that in HP during the rematch Doomsday has already evolved past Kryptonians including Kryptonian weaponry.

NOTHING suggests that he has evolved on the FLY - once again WHY didnt Doomsday display these attributes in DOS when Superman was flying around and using heat vision.

Doomsday must be killed before he returns better and evolved.

How am I ignoring other evidence. When Doomsday first fought the Radiant he did not evolve "on the fly" - it was only after he was killed by Radiant did he evolve past the Radiant and become immune to his attack. Everything I have stated supports my theory.

Doomsday can not evolve past Thanos during a fight (this does not mean he will lose). Should he be killed by Thanos and return however - he will surely be stronger/better the NEXT time they fight.

You're full of it... Were ANYWHERE has it EVER been stated that Sonics are a Kryptonian weapon, all you're using here is really half assed speculation and it doesn't even make sense.

How do you even rationalize that? Doomsday becomes immune to Superman's punches thus he's immune to Kryptonian technology....? What? Okay beyond your own wild speculation what proof do you have to support this?

And what the hell are you talking about "nothing suggests he's done it on the fly?"

We gave you multiples of examples where that's exactly what he did, so far all you've produced back is "nu-uh".... 😬

And I already explained why Doomsday didn't display these attributes.... Heat vision= Worthless... the most effect it had on DD the entire fight was to push him back... why would he need to evolve past something that didn't effect him? he can't evolve past inertia.
And Supes flying around.. In DOS he flew AT DD, Dooms didn't need any development to catch Superman because Superman was taking the fight right to him, something he even comments on in HP.... 😐
In HP however, Supes was using flight to EVADE Doomsday, hence a reason to evolve...

And Everything you've stated is nothing more than a house of cards built on your fragile speculations that's about to fall in the winds of overwhelming evidence... The radiant killing DD proves nothing...
Superman Killed DD, but Superman recognized that DD was getting stronger as the fight progressed effectively evolving past Superman's ability to cause him damage.
The Green Lantern Guardian beat DD back, but he also flat out said that DD was evolving to his energy and becoming stronger.

HP DD has effectively evolved past any physical trauma that Thanos can inflict on him, and ALL forms of energy that Thanos can throw at him.. That's why every rational member on this board knows that the titan's only real chance here is a win by way of BFR... it's all he's got.

Originally posted by Grammaton
Anyway I have 1 question for you. If the above in your post as you say is true - the WHAT is the difference between DOS Doomsday and HP Doomsday. Surely in DOS - Doomsday would have done what he did in HP? Which he DIDN'T. Explain this.

"Have you ever though about the fact that the rate of DD's evolutionary process speeded up to the point where he can now evolve while living (and not necessarily after death)?"

- So your saying Doomsday has evolved the ability to evolve...?

Your theories and posts are beginning to sound ridiculous.

Because he didn't need to.... 😐

Doomdsay evolves with necessity.... he doesn't just do it.. 😬

The only necessity he needed to meet in DOS was Superman's strength... Which he did, which WAS STATED....

No other evolution was necessary to face any of the opponents he faced off against in DOS. In HP that wasn't the case.

And yes, of course he evolved the ability to evolve.. that's what he was designed to do. 😕

Originally posted by Grammaton
Im glad to see your being modest. I dont care if you can spell or not - you "tried" to insult me by asking me how old I was.

If you want proof the weapons were Kryptonian - read Hunter Prey (somthing im not convinced you've done as yet).

Let me try and simplify this for you evidently this has become beyond your grasp to understand.

Doomsday was killed in DOS by a Kyptonian - now in HP it is clearly stated by Bertron that should Doomsday be killed he will return stronger (on on the fly). So it makes sense that in HP during the rematch Doomsday has already evolved past Kryptonians including Kryptonian weaponry.

NOTHING suggests that he has evolved on the FLY - once again WHY didnt Doomsday display these attributes in DOS when Superman was flying around and using heat vision.

Doomsday must be killed before he returns better and evolved.

How am I ignoring other evidence. When Doomsday first fought the Radiant he did not evolve "on the fly" - it was only after he was killed by Radiant did he evolve past the Radiant and become immune to his attack. Everything I have stated supports my theory.

Doomsday can not evolve past Thanos during a fight (this does not mean he will lose). Should he be killed by Thanos and return however - he will surely be stronger/better the NEXT time they fight.

Kryptonian? 🤨 You stupid............the motherbox is NEW GOD technology, and NOT KRYTONIAN. In fact, it's an even better feat. New God tech is far more advanced than kryptonian. In fact, it's probably the most advanced technology in the DCU.

You want examples of him evolving on the fly? How about evolving from being shot by the Omega Beams? The general consensus is that Darkseid either killed Doomsday briefly, or that he incapacitated him/downed him for a time.

Or how about Waverider getting desintegrated when he tried to use his temporal powers a 2nd time against DD?

Or how Superman's heat vision became useless mid fight? Or that DD was able to regrow his damaged bones stronger than the last time?

This version can and has evolved in mid fight. Which is why no one thinks Thanos wins short of BFR.

Jinzin has pointed this out already, but the fact that you're even arguing this point is ludicrous. 🙄

And don't forget Doomsday evolving intelligence later and spontaneously generating the ability to breathe fire against Martian Manhunter, probably the one instance (at least that I can recall) of DD evolving outside of H/P.

Originally posted by h1a8
I apologize. I'm sorry if I offended you. But understand me, you shocked the hell out of me. Not in a million years would I have expected someone to say something like what you said. Come to think of it, it's almost like you're playing with me since I'm developing a seemingly stubborn reputation of denying people's scans (evidences) here on KMC.

With that said, what would you expect someone to say if another said that there is [B]no evidence to suggest that DD made Superman bleed? What would you think? You didn't exactly say that DD doesn't evolve on the fly, but rather "there is no evidence" that DD evolved on the fly. This is a big difference my friend. What do you expect a person to think here? Well that is exactly how I thought when I was befuddled of your stance that HP DD didn't ever show any evidence that he can evolve on the fly. I mean I'm thinking that this is more against common sense than 1+1=3 is.

So please be humble and admit your fault. And again, I'm sorry for my earlier comments. You just got on one of my common sense nerves that's all. 😂

Yes! I thought this was common sense when Superman said his statement. What other reason could it be possible
that Superman said that statement (and knowing the writers intentions)? I'll be open to any sensible reasons that you have on Superman's statement and the writer's intention.

But maybe all this stuff is moot anyway. As DD has taken greater things than a Thanos blast and a Thanos punch before. I don't quite see DD even needing to evolve past Thanos since Thanos won't be putting a scratch on him anyway. What do you think? [/B]

In all honesty I haven't read anything else with Doomsday apart from DOS & HP - obviously my interpretation is different to yours and Jinzin.

I never said I thought Thanos could beat Doomsday anyway - I was only speculating on the whole evolving thing.

Anyway you do have good points and I respect your opinion.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Kryptonian? 🤨 You stupid............the motherbox is NEW GOD technology, and NOT KRYTONIAN. In fact, it's an even better feat. New God tech is far more advanced than kryptonian. In fact, it's probably the most advanced technology in the DCU.

You want examples of him evolving on the fly? How about evolving from being shot by the Omega Beams? The general consensus is that Darkseid either killed Doomsday briefly, or that he incapacitated him/downed him for a time.

Or how about Waverider getting desintegrated when he tried to use his temporal powers a 2nd time against DD?

Or how Superman's heat vision became useless mid fight? Or that DD was able to regrow his damaged bones stronger than the last time?

This version can and has evolved in mid fight. Which is why no one thinks Thanos wins short of BFR.

Jinzin has pointed this out already, but the fact that you're even arguing this point is ludicrous. 🙄

Just to make it clear. I disagree with just about everything you just said.
I thought the whole point in a VS Forum was you argued and debated your point?

🤨 at Grammaton.

Do you read completely different comics from everyone else or something??

Originally posted by Baloo
🤨 at Grammaton.

Do you read completely different comics from everyone else or something??

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Originally posted by TricksterPriest
You want examples of him evolving on the fly? How about evolving from being shot by the Omega Beams? The general consensus is that Darkseid either killed Doomsday briefly, or that he incapacitated him/downed him for a time.

Don't care what the general public thinks. There's no evidence to suggest he was killed by Darkseid's OB. He's never, ever shown the ability to resurrect in about a minutes' time. And Darkseid himself states, "No one...has ever survived the Omega Beams." And is clearly shocked that DD did.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Or how about Waverider getting desintegrated when he tried to use his temporal powers a 2nd time against DD?

He was disintegrated by the force of one million nuclear bombs going off. He's still alive after his powers backlash.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Or how Superman's heat vision became useless mid fight?

It was always useless in H/P. First time he's hit with it, he yells in pain. And after he's cut by Supes' laser sword and HV'd again, he once again yells in pain. Superman even says, "It only fazed him for a few seconds."

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Or that DD was able to regrow his damaged bones stronger than the last time?

They regrew from his first fight with DD. That's specifically stated.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
This version can and has evolved in mid fight. Which is why no one thinks Thanos wins short of BFR.

Not really. The only spontaneous, on the fly evolution DD displays in H/P is the ear canal incident. And even Hulk has done things like that (adapting to being in space, breathing underwater, etc.)

Nothing suggests that this version of DD would randomly evolve during the battle to combat Thanos' talents.

That being said, its still not likely that Thanos takes him out in a straight up fight. But he does win via BFR. Easily.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Woul dyou like to see the scan of Thanos bfring someone?

Ill be happy to provide it if you really dount that its happened before.

Thanos kills him once. I really think he could go toe to toe with him. Thanos took on Thor with the power gem who was an outright beast. Thanos worked up a bloody nose and was fine. He would meet Doomsday head on and get the win.

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Originally posted by Nestical
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