Originally posted by Grammaton
There is no proof that DD evolved these attributes on the fly - after DOS Doomsday logically would have evolved to counteract Superman's powers. My point is DOS DD had evolved into HP DD once he had been killed - and already had these new abilities he displayed.
Proof?
He was vulnerable to sonics... His auditory canals closed up.
He couln't reach supes.... He reeled him in...
He couldn't break the GL forcefield.... then he could....
There's far more evidence supporting our side than yours.
You're point lacks proof as well as evidence to the contrary...
Originally posted by jinzinIf you remember he used the forcefields to lure Champion in. He wasnt there to beat his head in because of the power gem. He was there to get Champion pissed off enough to destroy the planet thus screwing Champion over so he had to hand the power gem over to him which he did.
Insane durability that had him hiding behind forcefields from champion?
On his knees at the hands of Thor?
and stabbed with the IG?
He was a little bloodied but was fine. This same Thor beat the watch,Surfer, and Strange at once friend. 🙂
Originally posted by h1a8
Did you actually read Hunter Prey?
No offense but how old are you?
I fail miserably to see how the sonic gun and lightsaber were Kryptonian powers and abilities. Is the motherbox Kryptonian? Doesn't the motherbox create weapons based of the weakness of the creature? I don't think the motherbox analyzed Superman to create that sword.
Also, as someone also said, is the Radiant kryptonian? What about the GL's or the OE or even Waverider? I pretty much doubt they are Kryptonians too.
no OFFENCE but im probably older than you seeing as I have the ability to spell.
You clearly haven't been paying attention. Motherbox equipped Superman in a KRYPTONIAN battle outfit with KRYPTONIAN weapons however Doomsday had already evolved past Superman and all Kryptonians.
As I already said it would make sense for Doomsday to have already evolved the attributes shown in Hunter Prey after being defeated by Superman as these were specifically shown to counteract Superman's other abilities - not "on the fly" which you keep insisting is fact however in reality is only your opinion which frankly makes little sense anyway.
Originally posted by jinzin
Proof?He was vulnerable to sonics... His auditory canals closed up.
He couln't reach supes.... He reeled him in...
He couldn't break the GL forcefield.... then he could....
There's far more evidence supporting our side than yours.
You're point lacks proof as well as evidence to the contrary...
I tell you what. You explain to me why Doomsday was unable to evolve and counteract Superman's other abilities during DOS - I'd love to hear your supporting evidence which you claim to have much of.
Originally posted by Lumby
Doomsday gets pounded into molecular goo
He would eventually evolved and be more dangerous and lethal than before. Best thing Thanos could do is freeze him in time.
Keep in mind these are two of his feats:
-Self-evolves immunity to previous forms of attacks.
-Ability to resurrect himself after death.
Originally posted by Grammaton
I tell you what. You explain to me why Doomsday was unable to evolve and counteract Superman's other abilities during DOS - I'd love to hear your supporting evidence which you claim to have much of.
What powers?
Superman's strength was accounted for since DD got stronger throughout the fight.
Supe's heatvistion was pretty much worthless as it only pushed DD the entire time they fought.
Doomsday wasn't concerned with Superman as much as Metropolis and Supes wasn't trying to keep out of DD's reach he was trying to fight him head on.
Supe's speed was accounted for since DD was just as fast if not slightly faster.
Ice breath, vibration, T-vo... never used...
Originally posted by jinzin
What powers?Superman's strength was accounted for since DD got stronger throughout the fight.
Supe's heatvistion was pretty much worthless as it only pushed DD the entire time they fought.
Doomsday wasn't concerned with Superman as much as Metropolis and Supes wasn't trying to keep out of DD's reach he was trying to fight him head on.
Supe's speed was accounted for since DD was just as fast if not slightly faster.
Ice breath, vibration, T-vo... never used...
Superman used his strength, flight and heatvision in DOS practically as much as he did in HP.
Doomsday wasn't concerned with Superman you say? So explain in HP why it is clearly stated that Doomsday actively wanted to kill Superman because he was Kryptonian. Once again explain why Doomsday didn't evolve "on the fly" in DOS?
Your "evidence" doesn't seem to be stacking up.
I'll throw my two-cents into the debate,
If Thanos was pissed and determined to beat and kill Doomsday, then he would find a way to kill him. Since this is just one fight and not a series of fights in which Doomsday can evolve, then Thanos only needs to beat Doomsday once to qualify for a win.
But on an average day, Thanos would be amused by Doomsday's strength, brawl with him for a bit (just like he did against Warrior Madness Thor with the Power Gem), then get tired of Doomsday and probably teleport doomsday away. Thanos would then go back to whatever he was doing without giving Doomsday a second thought.
Thano's durability is through the roof. Taking Odin's multiple energy blasts head-on, taking a huge blast from a pissed off Galactus, and even taking hits from the Infinity Gauntlet (minus the reality gem) is no small matter. Both Thanos and Doomsday have durability in spades, but defense doesn't win battles. Doomsday can evolve, but Thanos' versatility wins him the first battle.
I have no comment on subsequent battles with Thanos in which Doomsday evolves as that is when the real threat begins.
-Evangel94
Originally posted by Evangel94
I'll throw my two-cents into the debate,If Thanos was pissed and determined to beat and kill Doomsday, then he would find a way to kill him. Since this is just one fight and not a series of fights in which Doomsday can evolve, then Thanos only needs to beat Doomsday once to qualify for a win.
But on an average day, Thanos would be amused by Doomsday's strength, brawl with him for a bit (just like he did against Warrior Madness Thor with the Power Gem), then get tired of Doomsday and probably teleport doomsday away. Thanos would then go back to whatever he was doing without giving Doomsday a second thought.
Thano's durability is through the roof. Taking Odin's multiple energy blasts head-on, taking a huge blast from a pissed off Galactus, and even taking hits from the Infinity Gauntlet (minus the reality gem) is no small matter. Both Thanos and Doomsday have durability in spades, but defense doesn't win battles. Doomsday can evolve, but Thanos' versatility wins him the first battle.
I have no comment on subsequent battles with Thanos in which Doomsday evolves as that is when the real threat begins.
-Evangel94
This is what I have been trying to say. Doomsday will not evolve during a fight with Thanos - there has been no evidence that he can even evolve on the fly - and this fight is based only on ONE fight between HP Doomsday and Thanos. Doomsday dying, evolving beyond Thanos and returning is irrelevant.
*shrugs* He has in the past adapted on the fly before
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*Sadly I don't have scans of the full fight, he did serious damage to DD when he unleashed a full powered attack, which killed the Guardian.
Originally posted by Grammaton
Superman used his strength, flight and heatvision in DOS practically as much as he did in HP.
Doomsday wasn't concerned with Superman you say? So explain in HP why it is clearly stated that Doomsday actively wanted to kill Superman because he was Kryptonian. Once again explain why Doomsday didn't evolve "on the fly" in DOS?
Your "evidence" doesn't seem to be stacking up.
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because in HP they developed Doomsday's backstory, where as in DOS he had none... you're not going to argue otherwise when Doomsday walked away from an unconcious superman.....
And again.. HE DID.... His strength was rising to meet the challenge of Superman...
You're readily ignoring evidence that opposes your opinion, and only produce speculation, that on top of needing me to explain what's either already been explained by DC publishers/authors, and/or is common knowledge/sense shows me that what you're saying in that opinion has little merit.
Originally posted by Grammaton
no OFFENCE but im probably older than you seeing as I have the ability to spell.You clearly haven't been paying attention. Motherbox equipped Superman in a KRYPTONIAN battle outfit with KRYPTONIAN weapons however Doomsday had already evolved past Superman and all Kryptonians.
As I already said it would make sense for Doomsday to have already evolved the attributes shown in Hunter Prey after being defeated by Superman as these were specifically shown to counteract Superman's other abilities - not "on the fly" which you keep insisting is fact however in reality is only your opinion which frankly makes little sense anyway.
Aren't sonics universal? Why does it make a difference that the weapon is Kryptonian? Sound is sound my friend. Doesn't matter if it came from a Shiar sonic gun.
Also, the motherbox analyzes the opponent when it makes weapons.
This is why every weapon Superman used actually worked on DD. It was that DD evolved to become immune to them.
You are the only one in existence that think HP DD can't evolve on the fly when he has shown it countless times. Honestly, I don't think you read the book. If you did, then you certainly wouldn't have missed this new power that DD didn't have before (Superman even commented on it).
Lastly, you are ignoring the other evidences. Such as the GL's, the Guardians, the OE, the Radiant, etc. Surely these aren't kryptonian too are they?
