Captain Marvel vs Silver Surfer

Supes & CM. They tied at arm wrestling and are about even in fights with each other. To me, they are about an overall even match with strength, speed and overall powers.

Using feats, Supes is at least = to or >>> CM. So, it just depends on your point of view. Saying they're equals is valid and saying Supes is slightly>>>>CM is also valid.

As for the thread, I have no idea how SS is against magic, let alone from a mid to high herald with magic.

Surfer ftw.... ✅

Surfer wouldn't have anything to exploit with CM like he would with Superman correct?

He could call him names, Bill is insecure.

He could hit on him, Bill is insecure.

Surfer wins.

Does marvel have any range attacks? If so, are they powerful enough to seriously hurt the Surfer? If not we gotta face facts. I don't think a purely physical attacker can beat the Surfer. He has to many abilities. And from what I've read, whether it's accurate or not, that the Surfer can use the power cosmic to raise ANY of his stats if he wants. And I've also read that Galactus has bestowed more of the power cosmic upon the Surfer making him more powerful. Imo, cm is maybe on Gladiator's level, maybe and the Surfer wasn't impressed by him at. He's just too powerful.

Currently, Captain Marvel still, because he got a power up. If it's classic versions for both, i'd still give Cap the small edge. Surfer can't exploit his weaknesses like Superman.

So you don't think that he could use his cosmic awareness the same way that he did when he sensed a weakness in the Gladiator and be able to exploit it?

Originally posted by Leobama
So you don't think that he could use his cosmic awareness the same way that he did when he sensed a weakness in the Gladiator and be able to exploit it?

But what weaknesses would Cap have? Even if he could do something like that, Captain Marvel has his WISDOM of Solomon. Which is mostly the same thing.

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
how can even Shazam harm the surfer ??? the guy's as close as it gets to completely indestructible, Shazam would have to cut him off from the power cosmic if he's to have any chance

You do know Thanos physically beat him to death? In less than 15 hits, at that.

Completely indestructible? No.

However, to say that Cap at his normal levels would beat Surfer is just false. He might have no active weaknesses, but he can still be hurt by excessive force. Surfer with his superior speed, energy blasts, etc. makes easy work of him. His magic might allow him to resist such things as transmutation, but it won't give him a win.

Originally posted by cloud102
But what weaknesses would Cap have? Even if he could do something like that, Captain Marvel has his WISDOM of Solomon. Which is mostly the same thing.

Originally posted by Leobama
Cool. I'm gonna have to do some reading on marvel. I still haven't heard if marvel has any range attacks. That could make a difference, right?

I know Adam has long range attacks. Calling down on magical lightning. Actually, I think both of them did that in Geoff Johns 1st JSA run. Whether or not it can KO the Surfer, I'm not sure. Depends on how powerful it is.

Originally posted by cloud102
But what weaknesses would Cap have? Even if he could do something like that, Captain Marvel has his WISDOM of Solomon. Which is mostly the same thing.

And Wonder Woman has the WISDOM of Athena, and it wouldn't do her any good against SS. Cap may be more durable than Diana, but he could still be overcome by Surfer imo. His best bet is his magic.

Originally posted by Sasaraixx
And Wonder Woman has the WISDOM of Athena, and it wouldn't do her any good against SS. Cap may be more durable than Diana, but he could still be overcome by Surfer imo. His best bet is his magic.

It has helped Billy out in the past. Even in Johns's run. And, yes, magic would help. A juiced up punch would probably give Surfer fits.

Originally posted by cloud102
It has helped Billy out in the past. Even in Johns's run. And, yes, magic would help. A juiced up punch would probably give Surfer fits.

Not really. SS has sufficient durability to take anything marvel can dish out. Not to mention he is faster and has forcefields. Ss also has one of the highest overall power outputs of any high tier so he could defintely ko Marvel

Originally posted by Cavalier
He could hit on him, Bill is insecure.

he should join us on msn, he'd be ruined lol...

Imo, calling down magical lightning and lightning punches doesn't seem to be alot to bring to the table against somebody as powerful as the Surfer.

Originally posted by Raoul
he should join us on msn, he'd be ruined lol...

Also the THING has kayoed him with a single punch on his first trip to earth while trying to signal galactus.

Originally posted by lawest9
Other characters such as thor, the hulk for example have punched the surfer out before so it's not a strecth to believe that a magically charged CM can do the same.

Originally posted by lawest9
Also the THING has kayoed him with a single punch on his first trip to earth while trying to signal galactus.

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