Darkseid Vs. WW Hulk Fist Fight

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
Goob....I'm not negating the fact that Wwh is his most powerful incarnation ever....I'm saying that from what we've seen on panel, there is nothing at all to suggest he's any stronger than a Superman level brick....sure, we can go ahead and make hypothetical estimations of his power and just assume that he can get the upper hand against a certain character. But honestly, speculation will never win any debate. 😬

Wait.....when the hell did Hulk deflect a galaxy destroying blast. 😕 Just curious....

Anyways, though you make a good point this kind of reasoning can be used to support virtually any character......Do realize that Superman going all out, is supposed to be alot more powerful than he is portrayed on a daily basis? Did you know that Darkseid is supposedly omnipotent and is one of the most powerful beings in the Dcu? Both have a plethora feats that could support such a theory. However, if we just start giving a character a win over another based of their title(Wwh is the strongest incarnation, Ds omnipotent, etc), then we might as well disregard forum rules period...and alot of those feats you brought up are nothing someone like Superman, can't replicate.........

The rest is speculation. Darkseid his classic version is Superman level. Even with using his powers its been proven he cannot dominate Superman. In this thread his powers are taken out. Ds isnt omnipotent or even close to it. WW Hulk being stronger than he has ever been is factual while we know through Darkseid's losses that he isnt omnipotent.

Who has Darkseid beaten without using his powers?

Originally posted by psycho gundam
green scar has yet to be defeated by mostly anything let alone just fists and the occasional kick to the gut, darkseid is in too deep in this one.

i'm bumping my earlier odds prediction to king hulk 8/10, darkseid is no bytch but he can and has been worked before by presumed lesser might...... kinghulk hasn't.

pretty much a smack-on assessment imo.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
green scar has yet to be defeated by mostly anything let alone just fists and the occasional kick to the gut, darkseid is in too deep in this one.

i'm bumping my earlier odds prediction to king hulk 8/10, darkseid is no bytch but he can and has been worked before by presumed lesser might...... kinghulk hasn't.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
Hulk's feats before he was WW Hulk show us he is more than any common Superman level brick. WW Hulk was never even physically bested by anyone but we know Superman can be physically raped and we have seen it happen more than once.

The rest is speculation. Darkseid his classic version is Superman level. Even with using his powers its been proven he cannot dominate Superman. In this thread his powers are taken out. Ds isnt omnipotent or even close to it. WW Hulk being stronger than he has ever been is factual while we know through Darkseid's losses that he isnt omnipotent.

Who has Darkseid beaten without using his powers?

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
Please go away......

Originally posted by horrorwolf
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Without his powers he is toast here.

Originally posted by leonidas
pretty much a smack-on assessment imo.

That's a load of horse-hockey. The Orion-Darkseid martial arts fight is more than enough proof of skill and combat speed.

And you guys forget, DS does not like to use fisticuffs as his first attack.

And when the hell did Hulk become a trans leveler? shocklaugh Last I saw, he had trouble with Sentry, a B-list hero. Darkseid has stopped a blitz from Superman and fought him evenly. Hell, Hulk has no feats that put him on par with Superman normally, let alone a bloodlusted or sun-amped Supes.

Just because this is a fistfight doesn't mean DS is going to stand there and let Hulk whale on him. Last I checked, this isn't a slugfest, which means he can use his speed.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
That's a load of horse-hockey. The Orion-Darkseid martial arts fight is more than enough proof of skill and combat speed.

And you guys forget, DS does not like to use fisticuffs as his first attack.

And when the hell did Hulk become a trans leveler? shocklaugh Last I saw, he had trouble with Sentry, a B-list hero. Darkseid has stopped a blitz from Superman and fought him evenly. Hell, Hulk has no feats that put him on par with Superman normally, let alone a bloodlusted or sun-amped Supes.

Just because this is a fistfight doesn't mean DS is going to stand there and let Hulk whale on him. Last I checked, this isn't a slugfest, which means he can use his speed.

Superman never speedblitzed Darkseid,ever.

Your opinion of Sentry is irrelevant. He isnt a b list hero, hes a top tier.

Darkseid doesnt like to brawl period. He would like to avoid it and with good reason he doesnt have the healing factor or durability that Superman has let alone WW Hulk who trumps them both.

Ds cant put WW Hulk down while WW Hulk can break Darkseid's face. 🙂

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
And in the same comic he got hurt by cyclops and stalemated by sentry

And on another note in regards to Sentry, if anything matching the raw power of WWH was just one more noteworthy feat for the guy. Think about it, if Hulk was more powerful than the times when his strength exceeded Thor's it indicates that Sentry's stronger than Thor's classic incarnation.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
.....wwh was full of pis,

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
if you think wwh is stronger than a sunamped superman who was pissed

But just for fun, what strength feats does sundipped Supes have that puts his strength so far ahead of Hulk's in your mind?

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
and darkseid had just takin his omega beams in his own face your dumb.

What the Hell does that have to with anything I said?

Originally posted by darthgoober
And during Infinite Crisis SBP got knocked around by both Conner and Martian Manhunter and was hurt by Krypto so he obviously needs to be pulled off the transcendent tier right? And let's not forget that DS himself has been beaten by Supes and been on the receiving end of a bat kick...

And on another note in regards to Sentry, if anything matching the raw power of WWH was just one more noteworthy feat for the guy. Think about it, if Hulk was more powerful than the times when his strength exceeded Thor's it indicates that Sentry's stronger than Thor's classic incarnation.

I don't like it, it didn't happen...

Where did I ever say that WWH was stronger than Supes with a sundip? It doesn't matter if he's stronger than Sundipped Supes because DS has been put down by less.

But just for fun, what strength feats does sundipped Supes have that puts his strength so far ahead of Hulk's in your mind?

What the Hell does that have to with anything I said?

If you're actually asking this, "
But just for fun, what strength feats does sundipped Supes have that puts his strength so far ahead of Hulk's in your mind?"

Then there's no point. ❌

You think Sentry is stronger than Thor? hysterical That's so rediculous I'm not even going to bother.

i don't get how ds is gonna do enough damage with his hands to put hulk down. he healed almost instantly when zom put his fist the entire way THROUGH his back and chest and heart!

ds<sundipped superman, so . . . who cares if wwh>=to sundipped supes? 😕

what is clear is that this version of hulk was intended to be the strongest version. and some of classic hulk's strength feats DO fall in the trans-tier. 😬

hulk will simply keep healing and keep getting stronger until he wins. ds simply can't dish out enough damage fast enough to put wwhulk down in h2h combat. i really don't get the big deal.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
If you're actually asking this, "
But just for fun, what strength feats does sundipped Supes have that puts his strength so far ahead of Hulk's in your mind?"

Then there's no point. ❌

You think Sentry is stronger than Thor? hysterical That's so rediculous I'm not even going to bother.

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
Goob....I'm not negating the fact that Wwh is his most powerful incarnation ever....I'm saying that from what we've seen on panel, there is nothing at all to suggest he's any stronger than a Superman level brick....sure, we can go ahead and make hypothetical estimations of his power and just assume that he can get the upper hand against a certain character. But honestly, speculation will never win any debate. 😬

And what speculation are you referring to exactly?

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
Wait.....when the hell did Hulk deflect a galaxy destroying blast. 😕 Just curious....

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
Anyways, though you make a good point this kind of reasoning can be used to support virtually any character......Do realize that Superman going all out, is supposed to be alot more powerful than he is portrayed on a daily basis? Did you know that Darkseid is supposedly omnipotent and is one of the most powerful beings in the Dcu? Both have a plethora feats that could support such a theory. However, if we just start giving a character a win over another based of their title(Wwh is the strongest incarnation, Ds omnipotent, etc), then we might as well disregard forum rules period...and alot of those feats you brought up are nothing someone like Superman, can't replicate.........

As it is in continuity now however, Byrne's reboot and weak Superman never really happened.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
If you're actually asking this, "
But just for fun, what strength feats does sundipped Supes have that puts his strength so far ahead of Hulk's in your mind?"

Then there's no point. ❌

No Bias Claims
"Batman can beat Thor because he's cooler!" That's an example of how not to debate. We would like to see the rationale behind any claims that one character can beat the other rather than a claim based on popularity and subjective bias.
Also, we insist that all claims be backed up by evidence from canon sources. If you claim that Spiderman is stronger than Superman, then you have to prove it

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
You think Sentry is stronger than Thor? hysterical That's so rediculous I'm not even going to bother.

DS wasn't even knocked out by an ALE aspect. I fail to see how WWHULk is going to get a victory over someone with that Kind of Durability. I don't see it happening.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Well let's see, the Absorbing Man has successfully absorbed/duplicated the strength of Thor and his hammer numerous times with Zero problems whatsoever but was overloaded by the raw strength of Sentry... seems to be a pretty clear indication that Sentry's strength>Thor's. Sentry matched the strength of the Hulk when Hulk's strength exceeded the levels in which it was equal to Thor's... seems to be yet another clear indication that Sentry's strength>Thor's(at least his classic incarnation).

However, when Sentry 'killed' AM, he didn't do it utilizing strength. He did so by rapidly overloading AM with to much raw power [ie. teh million explodin sunz!!]

Originally posted by Juntai
As it is in continuity now however, Byrne's reboot and weak Superman never really happened.

Originally posted by Galan007
First off, I agree that Sentry > Thor

However, when Sentry 'killed' AM, he didn't do it utilizing strength. He did so by rapidly overloading AM with to much raw power [ie. teh million explodin sunz!!]

Originally posted by Galan007
First off, I agree that Sentry > Thor

However, when Sentry 'killed' AM, he didn't do it utilizing strength. He did so by rapidly overloading AM with to much raw power [ie. teh million explodin sunz!!]

no way classic thor takes out terrax as easily as sentry did . . . 😬