Originally posted by OneDumbG0There is a lot of Hulk hate here imo. But yes with all that Hulk has accomplished pre WW Hulk and all that he accomplished in WW Hulk he is a physical beast.
World War Hulk... while trying to control himself... took a single step and inadvertently caused the entire Eastern Seaboard to shake. That step also screwed the tectonic plates underneath Manhattan and Hercules had to stop the widening to prevent catastrophic damage. Can you imagine what would happen if he wanted to actually step on someone's face, while going all out in a fight?Do people really believe that World War Hulk's strength is short of one-shot planet-shattering strength and is way below top-tier?
I cant think of a top tier that could handle WW Hulk in a brawl at his angriest. Heck at the end of the story when his mere steps were taking out the eastern seaboard I cant imagine what he would have done to someones face if he would have hit them in this rage.
Originally posted by Dark-JaxxExplain.
Worldbreaker would be useless in a fight.
Originally posted by quanchi112
There is a lot of Hulk hate here imo. But yes with all that Hulk has accomplished pre WW Hulk and all that he accomplished in WW Hulk he is a physical beast.I cant think of a top tier that could handle WW Hulk in a brawl at his angriest. Heck at the end of the story when his mere steps were taking out the eastern seaboard I cant imagine what he would have done to someones face if he would have hit them in this rage.
Explain.
Originally posted by fangirl101Superman was hitting him. Iman looked and appeared fine and easily pwned Superman. He did no damage to the Iman and didnt affect him in the slightest. He wasnt going to let him whale on him though as it would eventually damage him I am sure.
Superman was brawling with the AMPED infinity Man. The same one who could easily pwn skyfathers and Trans tier characters. Superman=Orion=Darksied. All of whom are at PC strength levels or somewhere near it. Either of these guys could brawl with WWH IMO.
What skyfather character did Iman pwn?
Nowhere near pcrisis. Prime is pcrisis and he would crush Superman and shows us he is way above Superman.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Superman was hitting him. Iman looked and appeared fine and easily pwned Superman. He did no damage to the Iman and didnt affect him in the slightest. He wasnt going to let him whale on him though as it would eventually damage him I am sure.What skyfather character did Iman pwn?
Nowhere near pcrisis. Prime is pcrisis and he would crush Superman and shows us he is way above Superman.
Iman killed takion who was the combination of himself and had Highfather's staff. He was skyfather level. Killed. Prime is precrisis? I never saw any precrisis guy be able to grab mxy. That is beyond any feat they had. Precrisis superman were very vulnerable to magic. Prime is immune to magic.
I dont understand how people can actually say that WWH is not at the level of superman or Darkseid strength wise. He( Hulk) has feats that match up and at other times evn surpass their best feats. Id like to see a list of superman strength feats that surpass those of the hulk. Not to mention he will be increasing in strength throughout the fight. He is perfect for this type of fight cuz it allows him to use his powers to his full potential. In a straight up brawl i dont see any top tier beating him
Originally posted by ultimatethor
I dont understand how people can actually say that WWH is not at the level of superman or Darkseid strength wise. He( Hulk) has feats that match up and at other times evn surpass their best feats. Id like to see a list of superman strength feats that surpass those of the hulk. Not to mention he will be increasing in strength throughout the fight. He is perfect for this type of fight cuz it allows him to use his powers to his full potential. In a straight up brawl i dont see any top tier beating him
Superman respect Thread. Supermans str feats surpass Hulks best.
Originally posted by horrorwolf
Check them, there are NO raw strength feats (not involving Superman's ability to generate momentum via flight) that even come close to surpassing Hulk's best.
Superman hovers in midair, he flies to an solar system, into the sun, he searches for the best grip to move the system without breaking through the radiation zone, this is the moment all the momentum is nonrelevant, because NOW he begins to move the entire system.
Let me put it this way, if he couldn't fly and this system would be there on the ground, Superman could still lift it as easy as he did while flying. This is the most ridiculous assumption i ever read, honestly.
Most of Superman str feats are in air but only because it makes more sense to carry heavy stuff in the air rather then on the ground 😐. That the writers think he can lift as much as he does while flying is shown in all Star Superman, where he lifts quantillions of tons with one hand, without even trying.
This may be noncanon but it still shows that his strength doesn't increase while flying. It is constant, so stop those lame excuses, you just try to discqualify Supermans strength feats because else WWH wouldn't win even 1 out of 100.
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Superman hovers in midair, he flies to an solar system, into the sun, he searches for the best grip to move the system without breaking through the radiation zone, this is the moment all the momentum is nonrelevant, because NOW he begins to move the entire system.Let me put it this way, if he couldn't fly and this system would be there on the ground, Superman could still lift it as easy as he did while flying. This is the most ridiculous assumption i ever read, honestly.
Most of Superman str feats are in air but only because it makes more sense to carry heavy stuff in the air rather then on the ground 😐. That the writers think he can lift as much as he does while flying is shown in all Star Superman, where he lifts quantillions of tons with one hand, without even trying.
This may be noncanon but it still shows that his strength doesn't increase while flying. It is constant, so stop those lame excuses, you just try to discqualify Supermans strength feats because else WWH wouldn't win even 1 out of 100.
Your opinion - but the writers have commented on how he utilizes inertia - almost as a form of tk to move massive objects that would be otherwise impossible for him physically- allowing him to also keep them in tact.
For our purposes we need on the ground strength feats, not Superman pushing and pulling objects with flight.
Originally posted by horrorwolf
Your opinion - but the writers have commented on how he utilizes inertia - almost as a form of tk to move massive object that would be otherwise impossible for him physically.For our purposes we need on the ground strength feats, not Superman pushing and pulling objects with flight.
WRONG. Writers have commented on how he uses a field to Hold together Objects that normally would crumble under thier own weight.
Originally posted by fangirl101
No offense, but thats just more utilization of flight to do what even Savage Hulk can do from the earth's surface utilizing his arm and leg strength alone.
Savage Hulk has destroyed a planetoid twice the size of earth which is far more mass than a moon.
Shifting tectonic plates while in a very calm state....is far beyond that feat as well.
Knocking the Earth from it's orbit with a single punch.
I personally think Superman could likely do the same, but my point is that I dont have any feats that show it without using flight. Therfore feats prove they are easily on par with each other strength wise. Only WWH >>> Hulk, and Hulk's strength is unlimited.
Understand that Hulk as we have seen him near the end of World War Hulk is a beast beyond those levels. When Superman stomps his foot and cracks the entire seaboard with a footstep....I'll agree.
Originally posted by horrorwolf
No offense, but thats just more utilization of flight to do what even Savage Hulk can do from the earth's surface utilizing his arm and leg strength alone.Savage Hulk has destroyed a planetoid twice the size of earth which is more mass than a moon.
Shifting tectonic plates while in a very calm state.
Moving the Earth from it's orbit with a single punch.
Originally posted by horrorwolf
Your opinion - but the writers have commented on how he utilizes inertia - almost as a form of tk to move massive objects that would be otherwise impossible for him physically- allowing him to also keep them in tact.For our purposes we need on the ground strength feats, not Superman pushing and pulling objects with flight.
Read fangirls answer, I guess you misunderstood what the writers said.
For our purpose strength feats in air are as valid as those on the ground.
There is not always an planet lying around so Superman can lift it ❌ .... but if there was he would surely lift it easier then Hulk.
BTW my opinion is as good as yours, so don't try to disqualify in air str feats just because they don't suit your opinion kk? 🙂