Originally posted by MindsetNo, but Ds is a master tactcian who makes Wolvie look dumb in comparison. Problem with Wolverine is, he's not known for his thinking power. He's not the worlds greatest dectective, or the one of the most crafty hitmen in the Dcu, guys the Joker has survived. Logan would be wasted by one of them with prep. Planning for him shouldn't be that much of a challenge.....cause honestly what does Logan do other than fight? He'll most likely walk into a trap that he can't escape. Your grossly underestimating the Joker's intellect. This is a guy who is aware of cosmic events, before anyone else is....while locked up in Arkham. He could easily hire someone to take him out aswell...
Deathstroke faced Joker after Joker only had 1 hr of prep and DS was trying to kill him?
Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
No, but Ds is a master tactcian who makes Wolvie look dumb in comparison. Problem with Wolverine is, he's not known for his thinking power. He's not the worlds greatest dectective, or the one of the most crafty hitmen in the Dcu, guys the Joker has survived. Logan would be wasted by one of them with prep. Planning for him shouldn't be that much of a challenge.....cause honestly what does Logan do other than fight? He'll most likely walk into a trap that he can't escape. Your grossly underestimating the Joker's intellect. This is a guy who is aware of cosmic events, before anyone else is....while locked up in Arkham. He could easily hire someone to take him out aswell...
I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that you don't read that much with Wolverine in it.
Originally posted by HazsekswthurmomIf you're talking about hiding, then did either of them have hyper-keen senses?
No, but Ds is a master tactcian who makes Wolvie look dumb in comparison. Problem with Wolverine is, he's not known for his thinking power. He's not the worlds greatest dectective, or the one of the most crafty hitmen in the Dcu, guys the Joker has survived.
Originally posted by HazsekswthurmomBecause they are obviously the joker... Wait the joker survived himself?
Logan would be wasted by one of them with prep.
Interesting.
Originally posted by HazsekswthurmomSo describe it. And don't break the rules with a bias claim of "He's the joker he'll figure out something I can't." As it is up to you to present your case as to how he will accomplish what you claim he does.
Planning for him shouldn't be that much of a challenge.....cause honestly what does Logan do other than fight? He'll most likely walk into a trap that he can't escape.
Originally posted by HazsekswthurmomWhich would violate the outside help rule.
Your grossly underestimating the Joker's intellect. This is a guy who is aware of cosmic events, before anyone else is....while locked up in Arkham. He could easily hire someone to take him out aswell...
Sio is this how joker wins? By breaking the rules of the forum?
Kinda goes to show that he really doesn't have a chance if he has to do that.
Originally posted by CreshoskHuh....
Because the crossover with the teen titans was canon and obviously Joker is deathstroke...
And this pertains to Wolverine being batman how?The point is, characters who are willing to kill are not going to do much better than Batman, simply for that reason. When dealing with the Joker, you have to go through obstacles and what not. He's not stupid enough to go head to head with Wolverine.
Originally posted by HazsekswthurmomCharacters that don't hold back and go all out won't do as well as those that hold back and don't go all out... That's logical... 🙄
Huh....The point is, characters who are willing to kill are [b]not
going to do much better than Batman,[]/b]
Originally posted by HazsekswthurmomAnd what happens when Wolverine doesn't play Jokers games?
simply for that reason. When dealing with the Joker, you have to go through obstacles and what not. He's not stupid enough to go head to head with Wolverine.
What's joker going to do? Shoot him? Poison him? Stab him? Fry him?
Cause all those worked wonders in the past. I know he's going to drop him into a vat of molten metal! Cause that certainly worked...
I'm going to have to agree, you don't read much with wolverine in it.
Originally posted by CreshoskCommon knowledge rule, Joker should know about Wolvies abilties. Do honestly think that Joker would let him find him that easily? He would know Logan would be coming for him, and he
If you're talking about hiding, then did either of them have hyper-keen senses?
Because they are obviously the joker... Wait the joker survived himself?What? Do you not know of the incident where he faced Deathstroke?
So describe it. And don't break the rules with a bias claim of "He's the joker he'll figure out something I can't." As it is up to you to present your case as to how he will accomplish what you claim he does.We're talking about a guy known to pull resources out of his ass. He has gotten a hold of tech and weaponry that could possibly iincapacitate Wolverine. I believe he pulled out something(I can't recall what it was) that could give Superman a decent fight.
Which would violate the outside help rule.Does that even apply to a prep battle? Kinda defeats the purpose of prep.....
Sio is this how joker wins? By breaking the rules of the forum?This is a prep battle.....h2h Wolvie would rape Joker. But that defeats the purpose of Jokers character, he's not supposed to be a bruiser he's a thinking man's villain and one of the most unpredictable at that. Plus hasn't the Punisher beaten off Wolverine? I forgot the context behind it but I recall him using the enviroment to his advantage. And I don't mean to cling on to low showings are anything just asking.Kinda goes to show that he really doesn't have a chance if he has to do that.
Characters that don't hold back and go all out won't do as well as those that hold back and don't go all out... That's logical...Way to misquote me. 😐 Against the Joker, it takes more than lethal force to beat him. Batman (the worlds greatest detective) has to usually think his way through Jokers antics. Joker is not some villain who beat the tar out of, call it a day, you gotta be able to match wits with him.
And what happens when Wolverine doesn't play Jokers games?I know damn well stuff doesn't work on him. 🙄 Joker's alot smarter than you think. He has gotten his hands on weapons that would give Wolvie hell, explosives and such which would be pretty effective against Logan. Plus there's always the outside help he could use to his advantage. 🙂 Which he should be able to use.....What's joker going to do? Shoot him? Poison him? Stab him? Fry him?
Cause all those worked wonders in the past. I know he's going to drop him into a vat of molten metal! Cause that certainly worked...
I'm going to have to agree, you don't read much with wolverine in it.
Anyways I'll done for tonight, I'll finish this later on.
Joker has made a joker venom that can put down Firestorm. He's survived Deathstroke's assasination attempt, he's taken out Wonder Woman. He's been able to poison Cirice, a skyfather level being, briefly. He's manipulated people like Superman into doing his work. He's taken over Atlantis.
Guys, you are REALLY underestimating the joker. shockno
Originally posted by HazsekswthurmomNope. Joker would only know what the common people of the Marvel world would know about him.
Common knowledge rule, Joker should know about Wolvies abilties.
Originally posted by HazsekswthurmomDo you honestly believe that Joker has a choice?
Do honestly think that Joker would let him find him that easily?
Originally posted by HazsekswthurmomSince Wolverine IS Deathstroke it's a valid comparison.
He would know Logan would be coming for him, and heWhat? Do you not know of the incident where he faced Deathstroke?
Originally posted by HazsekswthurmomThis is not emporer Joker. And he only has an hour of prep.
We're talking about a guy known to pull resources out of his ass.
Originally posted by HazsekswthurmomSuch as?
He has gotten a hold of tech and weaponry that could possibly iincapacitate Wolverine.
Originally posted by HazsekswthurmomIt's called Kryptonite. But I'd like to hear an explination on how Joker would know about much less find the carbondonium generator.
I believe he pulled out something(I can't recall what it was) that could give Superman a decent fight.
Originally posted by HazsekswthurmomPrep is not infinite. Prep is still limited to what the single character could reasonably pull off in the given time frame. For example It's nlikely that one would be able to recreate the Infinity guantlet in an hour. Also being able to focus on securing a location to be able to hide from wolverine as well as be able to take him out... in an hour? I'd like to hear the rundown of ohow you hope to acheive such a thing. Don't forget to factor in travel time between resources.
Does that even apply to a prep battle? Kinda defeats the purpose of prep.....
Originally posted by HazsekswthurmomNot in canon.
This is a prep battle.....h2h Wolvie would rape Joker. But that defeats the purpose of Jokers character, he's not supposed to be a bruiser he's a thinking man's villain and one of the most unpredictable at that. Plus hasn't the Punisher beaten off Wolverine?
Originally posted by HazsekswthurmomOnly through low showings on wolverine's part was he able to accomplish such a thing, in a story that was not canon to the 616 universe.
I forgot the context behind it but I recall him using the enviroment to his advantage. And I don't mean to cling on to low showings are anything just asking.
Originally posted by HazsekswthurmomThat's because he has to come up with non-lethal ways to take him out. IT takes a lot more to be non-lethal than it is to just kill the person.
Way to misquote me. 😐 Against [b]the Joker, it takes more than lethal force to beat him. Batman (the worlds greatest detective) has to usually think his way through Jokers antics.[/b]
Originally posted by HazsekswthurmomSuch as? I'm still waiting on that.
Joker is not some villain who beat the tar out of, call it a day, you gotta be able to match wits with him. [/quoite] Tell that to Jason Todd.[QUOTE=10359730]Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
I know damn well stuff doesn't work on him. 🙄 Joker's alot smarter than you think. He has gotten his hands on weapons that would give Wolvie hell,
Originally posted by HazsekswthurmomThank you for confirming you don't read anything with wolverine in it mr "Has sex with your mom." You're dismissed
explosives and such which would be pretty effective against Logan.
Originally posted by HazsekswthurmomNope, its against the rules. Unless Wolverine can also call for help during the battle. Read the rules of the forum. You don't seem to be familiar with them Mr. Mom.
Plus there's always the outside help he could use to his advantage. 🙂 Which he should be able to use.....
Originally posted by HazsekswthurmomSure you will. You'll just bring more of your ignorant bullshit.
Anyways I'll done for tonight, I'll finish this later on.
Originally posted by TricksterPriestCorner.
Joker has made a joker venom that can put down Firestorm. He's survived Deathstroke's assasination attempt, he's taken out Wonder Woman. He's been able to poison Cirice, a skyfather level being, briefly. He's manipulated people like Superman into doing his work. He's taken over Atlantis.Guys, you are REALLY underestimating the joker. shockno
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Joker has made a joker venom that can put down Firestorm. He's survived Deathstroke's assasination attempt, he's taken out Wonder Woman. He's been able to poison Cirice, a skyfather level being, briefly. He's manipulated people like Superman into doing his work. He's taken over Atlantis.Guys, you are REALLY underestimating the joker. shockno
OMG Joker did all this with 1 hour of prep and no pis, I take back everything I said, Joker beats Marvel Earth.
Originally posted by TricksterPriestWell that's all that joker gets this time. And remember basic knowledge is that which those of Marvel EArth know about wolverine... He might be lucky to recognize the name.
An hour? Nah.
Originally posted by TricksterPriestYes, because Joker is totally exempt from PIS... because its so totally plausible for him to take over Atlantis in an hour. I mean Aquaman only has the powers of spongebob...
But he has pulled some rediculous shit in an hour. Actually, I think he did the Atlantis one is an hour or so.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Joker has made a joker venom that can put down Firestorm. He's survived Deathstroke's assasination attempt, he's taken out Wonder Woman. He's been able to poison Cirice, a skyfather level being, briefly. He's manipulated people like Superman into doing his work. He's taken over Atlantis.Guys, you are REALLY underestimating the joker. shockno
Circe is trascendent.
Joker will win if he some how manages to trick wolf into something real dumb. Like detonate a big bomb near wolverine and then and then hose hime down with lots of acid. As logan is groaning and trying to heal, this leaves Joker able to do whatever as logan tries and heal. All this is kinda slim chance in hell so Logan ftw!