Originally posted by leonidas
when it IS confirmed odin has changed--because evidence does indeed suggest there is something going on--abhi, will you publicly admit you were wrong this entire time and that the thor side was ultimately right?so many gymnastics. at least table the discussion until something comes up to verify one position or the other. geezus. so many pages of the same thing.... if he's NOT shown to be verifiably weakened, then sure, i'll say abhi was right. but even if you ARE right, it doesn't justify this constant head-against-the-wall approach. oi...
I'm not the one who is blatantly in denial considering mjolnir retcon.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
No. The previous stories left out "one very important element". Which was... Mother Storm. No real changes, but an addition to the mythos.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-4LmlySFEvbY/WPjPWLxKsHI/AAAAAAADZK4/Euot8mNTS0MzPL-go0e1Gxln77u_WXp5QCLcB/s1600/066_005.jpg
Once again with the denial? Mother storm changed the whole origin of Mjolnir. It was mother storm who was powering mjolnir, not Odin.
I'm not sure why it is so hard for you to understand.
Yes he was.
And yes previously it was known Odinforce, uru, star, was involved in the make up of the hammer. Now we know it involved a galaxy storm. The part that was forgotten. The other parts never changed. It still has the core myth intact.
Except no, it was Odin who was powering mjolnir. Now it's mother storm and Odin only enchanted the hammer to stop anyone from lifting it.
Worthiness enchant.
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-yHvCp963J4A/WPjPZX8KmHI/AAAAAAADZLk/iyxJB8IpH0I7_B-AOBF5KAMTe0mu4cY_gCLcB/s1600/066_017.jpg
That's not worthiness enchanting. It's just enchanting to stop anyone from lifting it.
The worthiness was always determined by mother storm now.
And in your scan Odin imposing his sovereignty over the hammer.
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-qtgaLMezOb0/WcueapQ_W2I/AAAAAAAB3IQ/P2NPL7jlBxkCI3yLdYI2dD9ehq1LKo2ZgCLcBGAs/s1600/022_0003.jpg
After struggling with it. Mother Storm was getting dormant after centuries of captivity.
Again classic narrative.
https://i.imgur.com/FVrqJgY.jpg
That's irrelevant now.
Lol.. Loki sidestepped the whole SW thing while holding on to the essences of Asgard.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-f5x5PocLJUQ/VdVhAJavXRI/AAAAAAAOvV8/uNifGXrL8zA/s1600/24_01.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-z1Dq68u6e8c/VdVhH_89baI/AAAAAAAOvYs/wuvHLPEfF64/s1600/24_18.jpg
So you're saying Reed did not create Asgard after Secret Wars and Loki did? Scans for this?
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
It was mentioned once by Odin that his omnipotence isn't what it once was. Now Mangog said the same.I am not keeping up with the current discussion (I'll read through later) but just an fyi, but I noticed that Odin was ALSO giving intravenous transfers of the Odin Force to Freya right before Mangog's invasion to keep her alive.
Not only is he weakened (This is an easy explanation, Odin hasn't had the Odin Sleep in canon in how many years?), but he has been supplying Freya to keep her alive.
Anyways, I'm interested in reading this thread but goddamn, Celey, stop replying to Abhil, it literally kills the discussion even if you are making good points.
Edit: Wtf, Abhil is refusing to acknowledge the Loki? That's canon. He just referenced it in the Doctor Strange stories...
Originally posted by carver9
@JL KingOr that could mean that Jane is a beast. Do you do this with all characters or is it just Mangog and Jane? Who would win a fight out of OWAW Superman (non Sundipped) vs Silver Surfer, and why?
I wonder if we do this with all characters.
SBP vs the Titans, for example....
