Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Carver do you just do this with the Destoryer or do you do it with all characters?Does Hal share feats with all GLs? Do they all get the feats of Hal and Kyle etc?
If not, why do we share feats with Destroyer?
I'm asking you for scans that proves the Destroyer armor change depending on who the host is. This is a simple question.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Also, Destroyer was powered by a sickly, dying goddess.Let's not share feats here. What the Destroyer has done in the past is moot.
My original post, which YOU, Carver, attempted to twist.
Please point where I said durability is lesser?
It was weakened by it's host being sh1t. Clear as day.
Originally posted by carver9
@JL KingOr that could mean that Jane is a beast. Do you do this with all characters or is it just Mangog and Jane? Who would win a fight out of OWAW Superman (non Sundipped) vs Silver Surfer, and why?
You're kidding me, right?
When Jane has an absurdly high feat, it’s fine but a character like Hal who destroyed a sky level + being like Krona, we turn a blind eye?
If Jane does beat a Mangog, its a high feat. That all. I won’t deny that she operates at a higher level than Thor does but it’s because it’s being done under one writer. This is a lot like OWAW Superman or Red Hulk.
Also, I’m still going with the idea that’s Jane won’t beat Mangog but rather fight him where she dies and his “rage” dissolves because of her death. Along with a tearing odinson
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Hehehe.Maybe.
Btw u were right. Odin is currently not operating at standard levels. Aaron has brought it up multiple times now. I remember u had said so in some other thread while I chalked it up to low showings. Something is up with him.
But yes I have the inside info on all things Marvel from a CI
Originally posted by Damborgson
He's fractured reality with a hammer shot.I'm not sure you ubderstand the point though.
Of course I do.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Hehehe.Maybe.
Btw u were right. Odin is currently not operating at standard levels. Aaron has brought it up multiple times now. I remember u had said so in some other thread while I chalked it up to low showings. Something is up with him.
1st Thor Jane series - Odin is dumbfounded as to why he can no longer control Mjolnir much less lift it.
1st Thor Jane series - Odin tells Cul his omnipotence is not as it once was. He then commands Cul to use the Destroyer to fetch Mjolnir for him.
Loki Agent of Asgard - Freya asks for Odin to use the "Odinforce" during another one of their Ragnaroks. Odin is unable to make it happen.
2nd Thor Jane series - Mangog claims he is not quite the All-father that he remembers.
All signs point yes.
While your reasoning is basically... Nonexistent.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
1st Thor Jane series - Odin is dumbfounded as to why he can no longer control Mjolnir.
Which was due to awakening of mother storm and it was shown Odin could never fully control mjolnir to start with.
1st Thor Jane series - Odin tells Cul his omnipotence is not as it once was. He then commands Cul to use the Destroyer to fetch Mjolnir for him.
Directly related to what happened to mjolnir. Not reason for weakness.
Loki Agent of Asgard - Freya asks for Odin to use the "Odinforce" during another one of their Ragnaroks. Odin unable to make it happen.
Because he says Odin power takes time to rise. Just a punchline for a dick joke on his expense. Also not written by Aaron.
No reason for weakness.
2nd Thor Jane series - Mangog claims he is not quite the All-father that he remembers.
He says the same about Odinson. And Odin says Mangog does not hits as hard as before and Odin barely felt that punch despite Mangog being stronger than ever.
Which obviously means Odin is more powerful than ever too. See how that can be interpreted.
All signs point yes.
While your reasoning is basically... Nonexistent.
Unlike you, I'm not twisting stories to make something non existent to show Odin as weaker.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Didn't it just say it was burning through souls at a faster rate, not that it was more powerful?And yeah. Agree on the street levels.
But it's about soul power, brother. So the soul of say a 'street leveller' (Cap) would potentially be more powerful than that of a god (Loki).
I can't prove this of course. But crucially,nobody can. How powerful was Freyjas dying soul? No idea. We can't just power scale though, and share feats.
Is the will power of a dying human GL (Hal) stronger than a sentient planet(Mogo)? Maybe? Who knows.It's all abstract at this point. Trying to assign a scale to it won't work, that's my point.
We can't say 'look at the Destroyers feats with a no name Asgardian', 'One Freyja is equal to 100 Asgardian', a dying Freyja is equal to 10, so let's power scale and use the fight with Glads, and multiply by 10'.
That's essentially what you're saying.
On account of its "fire growing"
Where even Freya admits that it depends on the god.
No sir, that's not what I'm saying. I've purposely never mentioned numbers because I don't believe it works that way.
But I hardly think its unfair to believe that, the more powerful the soul, in this case the All-Mother Freya's should give the destryoer something better to work with than a mortal soul? That's not feat sharing, at least not attempted feat sharing, it's just a logical step, would you agree?
And I couldn't find where it said 'dying' just that she was 'recovering' so weakened but no on the edge of death anymore.
Originally posted by abhilegend
This just came in everyone, Superman has reality warping powers.You must be talking about rage. He is the only one embarrassing here.
I was talking about this:
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/14/146286/3036758-darkseidcollapsemultiverse.jpg
But maybe that doesn't quite fit the description.
Okay if you don't like that term, how about a weapon that can rip through time and space?
Originally posted by abhilegend
Which was due to awakening of mother storm and it was shown Odin could never fully control mjolnir to start with.Directly related to what happened to mjolnir. Not reason for weakness.
Like Aaron said. He no longer holds the same omnipotence.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Because he says Odin power takes time to rise. Just a punchline for a dick joke on his expense. Also not written by Aaron.No reason for weakness.
Originally posted by abhilegend
He says the same about Odinson. And Odin says Mangog does not hits as hard as before and Odin barely felt that punch despite Mangog being stronger than ever.Which obviously means Odin is more powerful than ever too. See how that can be interpreted.
Too many instances and too many statements of the underlying truth that has been following him around.
Originally posted by Damborgson
I was talking about this:
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/14/146286/3036758-darkseidcollapsemultiverse.jpgBut maybe that doesn't quite fit the description.
Okay if you don't like that term, how about a weapon that can rip through time and space?
Originally posted by abhilegend
That's a good description but Thor has never used it like that against Mangog. Usually it's just a bashing hammer with energy gun type of weapon.
He has actually:
https://imgur.com/1ED04M6
https://imgur.com/hXDky88
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Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Lol... Aaron revealed Classic Odin conquering the mother storm and forcefully imprisoning it in a chunk of uru. Not to mention for years he had full control over Mjolnir to an extent that even Thor can only dream of.
Now this is just a flat out lie.
Aaron retconned the shit out of "Odin had control over mjolnir".
I'm not surprised you lied though.
Like Aaron said. He no longer holds the same omnipotence.
Uh-huh. Mother storm awakened inside mjolnir. Odin didn't become weakened.
Err.. She slipped in that joke after his line. But guess what? The whole battle he was never able to utilize it. It was a Ragnarok for christ sakes... Even worse for you that it's not under Aaron. Looks like a companywide mandate.
A company wide mandate which is mentioned nowhere but to mock Odin?
And he was also blocked by Those Who sit above in the shadows.
That was also before Secret Wars and there was no reason for him to get weaker all of a sudden.
And? Unfortunately that doesn't discount what Mangog claims about Odin's current state. It's a pattern brought up over and over.
You mean twice in last five years? To mock Odin?
Too many instances and too many statements of the underlying truth that has been following him around.
😂
You're just crying at this point, aren't you?
Originally posted by abhilegend
Now this is just a flat out lie.Aaron retconned the shit out of "Odin had control over mjolnir".
I'm not surprised you lied though.
Uh-huh. Mother storm awakened inside mjolnir. Odin didn't become weakened.
And btw lying is proclaiming that Cul has never been a skyfather even when presented by overwhelming evidence.
Originally posted by abhilegend
A company wide mandate which is mentioned nowhere but to mock Odin?And he was also blocked by Those Who sit above in the shadows.
That was also before Secret Wars and there was no reason for him to get weaker all of a sudden.
You mean twice in last five years? To mock Odin?
😂
You're just crying at this point, aren't you?
His proclamation of his omnipotence not being the same was also right before SW. As well as his inability to even budge Mjolnir. Durrr...
Twice? I listed multiple things. And now because of your scans, you've opened up more proof.
