Which character can take down the most Hand ninjas?

Started by Battlehammer15 pages

Originally posted by thadarknite84
You ignore the fact that DD will lose to Batman.

Actaully that an opinion not a fact.

Originally posted by thadarknite84
DD's radar is not like Spidey's, so you are wrong.

They work similar and at times better
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Originally posted by thadarknite84
His radar sense allows him to detect the Contours of his environment.

It allows him to view the world in 360 degree’s.

Originally posted by thadarknite84
While Batman senses work perfectly fine and DD will not out smart Batman in a fight.

Never said he would. There really no out smarting any one in a featureless environment unless one of the individuals in a complete idiot like rhino.

His radar senses will allow him to senses the attack and never bee taken by surprises because he see’s in 360 degree’s.

Originally posted by thadarknite84
I think you should take off that heavy helmet, it's making you think slow and your head is as hard as a battlehammer.

So now are saying that I am wearing a “heavy helmet”? I would like to know why I would be wearing a helmet. I further like to know why I would wish to wear a heavy helmet. Why not a soft one or a light one?

Even though you think for some odd reason that I would be wearing a “heavy helmet” it is not actually the comment of yours that I find most odd. The comment I find most strange is how ones head could be as thick as a last name. Battlehammer is the last name of a man named Bruenor. An actual battle hammer has a space between the “battle” and the “hammer”

Originally posted by thadarknite84
You just don't get it do you. And is not about DD vs Batman, and Wolverine winning this battle is all that we will ever agree on.

I know what the thread entitles, you are the one who made this about Daredevil and Batman.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Actaully that an opinion not a fact.

They work similar and at times better
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It allows him to view the world in 360 degree’s.

Never said he would. There really no out smarting any one in a featureless environment unless one of the individuals in a complete idiot like rhino.

His radar senses will allow him to senses the attack and never bee taken by surprises because he see’s in 360 degree’s.

So now are saying that I am wearing a “heavy helmet”? I would like to know why I would be wearing a helmet. I further like to know why I would wish to wear a heavy helmet. Why not a soft one or a light one?

Even though you think for some odd reason that I would be wearing a “heavy helmet” it is not actually the comment of yours that I find most odd. The comment I find most strange is how ones head could be as thick as a last name. Battlehammer is the last name of a man named Bruenor. An actual battle hammer has a space between the “battle” and the “hammer”

I know what the thread entitles, you are the one who made this about Daredevil and Batman.

This is a waste of time. And about the helmet comment, I see you don't get it which only proves why I said that in the first place. You can keep posting about DD beating Batman all you want. It won't change the real outcome of that fight. And I'm not saying that because I like Batman, it's just the truth. The fact is that DD is one of most skilled MA in Marvel under Cap, Iron Fist, and Wolverine. Batman is in the top three most skilled MA in DC. And you're not saying much about DD since DC has the most skillful fighters than Marvel. Batman has master all styles of combat from the GREATEST masters in the DCU. Look you think Wolverine would win this fight, right? Well so do I. So what else is there for you to say to me.

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Originally posted by thadarknite84
This is a waste of time.

My thoughts exactly, we must be twin’s.

Originally posted by thadarknite84
And about the helmet comment, I see you don't get it which only proves why I said that in the first place.

Yes your unequaled cunning with symbolism was simply beyond my comprehension 🙄 .

I mean there is no way I could understand that when you said

Originally posted by thadarknite84
I think you should take off that heavy helmet,

you were implying that I was being ignorant and dense.

There also no way that I with such a small brain, compared to yourself could comprehend that when you said

Originally posted by thadarknite84
your head is as hard as a battlehammer

that you were in fact implying that I was unable to processes the information correctly that you were trying to vocalize and that I was unreasonable.

I mean clearly the post below I made in responses to your cunning, is of sincere confusion

Originally posted by Battlehammer
So now are saying that I am wearing a “heavy helmet”? I would like to know why I would be wearing a helmet. I further like to know why I would wish to wear a heavy helmet. Why not a soft one or a light one?

Even though you think for some odd reason that I would be wearing a “heavy helmet” it is not actually the comment of yours that I find most odd. The comment I find most strange is how ones head could be as thick as a last name. Battlehammer is the last name of a man named Bruenor. An actual battle hammer has a space between the “battle” and the “hammer”


and not myself mocking you. I mean there no way some one as dumb as I would be able to understand your complex insult and respond with mocked confusion.
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Originally posted by Battlehammer
You can keep posting about DD beating Batman all you want.

No what I am doing is posting my opinion on what would happen if the two of them were to fight in hand two hand combat. Then I used a scan to illustrate your incorrect statement on Daredevil’s radar senses capabilities.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
It won't change the real outcome of that fight. And I'm not saying that because I like Batman, it's just the truth.

Yes, because we all know that you are not one to let your bias intervene on your opinion on how a fight would play out. Just like in the post below.

Originally posted by Etrigan
Which of these characters can take down the most common Hand Ninjas before they go down? All characters have any weapons they would usually have on them. Take into account experience with fighting ninja-like characters as well as fighting skill.

Daredevil, Elektra, Black Widow, Captain America, Wolverine, Black Panther, Moon Knight, Batman, Iron Fist, Midnighter.

Originally posted by thadarknite84
I'll give it to the best ninja in the list and that's Batman.

Because I mean clearly batman has the best shot of winning out of the list. Not Wolverine or Iron Fist or Midnighter. 🙄

Also clearly Batman is the greatest ninja on the list even though more then likely he is not the greatest ninja in the DC universes who do not have the amount of quality ninjas that the marvel universe does. I mean batman must be a better ninja then an individual who has vastly more training and experiences in the ninja type arts. He also must be a greater ninja then an individual who widely consider the greatest ninja in the Marvel universes 🙄 .

Originally posted by thadarknite84
The fact is that DD is one of most skilled MA in Marvel under Cap, Iron Fist, and Wolverine. Batman is in the top three most skilled MA in DC.

That’s your opinion which I disagree and could name at least 3 individuals who are more skill in marvel, let a lone DC.

Originally posted by thadarknite84
And you're not saying much about DD since DC has the most skillful fighters than Marvel.

That is your opinion which I think is rather ignorant and lacks any solid reasoning. I would like for you to type the names of theses fighters who are more skilled then that of Marvels.

Originally posted by thadarknite84
Batman has master all styles of combat from the GREATEST masters in the DCU.

He mastered 127, not all of them to my knowledge. Also who are theses “GREATEST masters”?

Daredevil has trained under some extremely skill individuals through out his career. One such master is named “Stick” he is currently on the tier thread listed as “Uber Tier” which is the tier above Batman. This individual was able through training to exist after death, learn telepathy, gain radar senses and so much more.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
My thoughts exactly, we must be twin’s.

Yes your unequaled cunning with symbolism was simply beyond my comprehension 🙄 .

I mean there is no way I could understand that when you said

you were implying that I was being ignorant and dense.

There also no way that I with such a small brain, compared to yourself could comprehend that when you said

that you were in fact implying that I was unable to processes the information correctly that you were trying to vocalize and that I was unreasonable.

I mean clearly the post below I made in responses to your cunning, is of sincere confusion

and not myself mocking you. I mean there no way some one as dumb as I would be able to understand your complex insult and respond with mocked confusion.
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No what I am doing is posting my opinion on what would happen if the two of them were to fight in hand two hand combat. Then I used a scan to illustrate your incorrect statement on Daredevil’s radar senses capabilities.

Yes, because we all know that you are not one to let your bias intervene on your opinion on how a fight would play out. Just like in the post below.

Because I mean clearly batman has the best shot of winning out of the list. Not Wolverine or Iron Fist or Midnighter. 🙄

Also clearly Batman is the greatest ninja on the list even though more then likely he is not the greatest ninja in the DC universes who do not have the amount of quality ninjas that the marvel universe does. I mean batman must be a better ninja then an individual who has vastly more training and experiences in the ninja type arts. He also must be a greater ninja then an individual who widely consider the greatest ninja in the Marvel universes 🙄 .

That’s your opinion which I disagree and could name at least 3 individuals who are more skill in marvel, let a lone DC.

That is your opinion which I think is rather ignorant and lacks any solid reasoning. I would like for you to type the names of theses fighters who are more skilled then that of Marvels.

He mastered 127, not all of them to my knowledge. Also who are theses “GREATEST masters”?

Daredevil has trained under some extremely skill individuals through out his career. One such master is named “Stick” he is currently on the tier thread listed as “Uber Tier” which is the tier above Batman. This individual was able through training to exist after death, learn telepathy, gain radar senses and so much more.

As I said... Waste of time, next.

Originally posted by thadarknite84
As I said... Waste of time, next.

What a champ you are, with thoses skills your sure to win the next tourament 😱

Originally posted by thadarknite84
As I said... Waste of time, next.
You do realize don't you that you don't actually accomplish anything on these boards right?

So simply dismissing a person's post and calling it a waste of time is not only intellectually dishonest but also hypocritical.

Let me ask you this, if responding to people posts in a debate forum is a waste of time, what the hell do you hope to accomplish by posting here?

Why bother posting at all?

Originally posted by Battlehammer
What a champ you are, with thoses skills your sure to win the next tourament 😱

Look DD is not someone who I think would beat Batman, because Batman is more intelligent, more dedicated, has lot more training, and he is more focused. Cain is the greatest ninja/assassin in DC, he trained Batman at one point in his life. Batman has defeated him. Lady Shiva is consider one of the most skilled and deadly fighters in DC. And Batman is on par with her and at one time he had defeated her. You talk about DD's radar sense, Shiva knows your every move before you make it. Richard Dragon is yet another MA, who is consider one of the best in DC. He also was defeated by The Dark Knight. Batman is at a level that one can either match him or they would need some kind of enhancements to beat him. Like Slade, Captain America or Prometheus. And even people with powers can meet defeat. Because Batman is a master planner. He would find a weakness to exploit. Cassandra Cain and Nightwing are consider two people that may take him. And Nightwing is only considered because Batman trained him and that saids a lot about Batman. DD is also not peak human, Batman is.

Originally posted by thadarknite84
Look DD is not someone who I think would beat Batman, because Batman is more intelligent,

This is true, but it does not pertain to the match. Superior intellect means little in a one on one hand two fights. The only time this would matter in such a scenario is if one individual was extremely dumb such as Rhino.

Originally posted by thadarknite84
more dedicated,

That is a matter of opinion. Again it really has little effect on this match up.

Originally posted by thadarknite84
has lot more training,

This does not win a match. As you your self has even argued. Also Batman does not have much of a training edge verses Daredevil. Both have been training since they were young kids.

Originally posted by thadarknite84
and he is more focused.

Again this is a mater of opinion and pertains little to the out come of the match.

Originally posted by thadarknite84
Cain is the greatest ninja/assassin in DC, he trained Batman at one point in his life. Batman has defeated him.

Daredevil sparing partner was Elektra for a very long time. She is consider the greatest ninja in the world and Daredevil has trained with and along said extensively.

Daredevil has also defeated Elektra.

Originally posted by thadarknite84
Lady Shiva is consider one of the most skilled and deadly fighters in DC. And Batman is on par with her and at one time he had defeated her.

Has he not also been defeated? Also did he not state him self that she was superior to him?

Originally posted by thadarknite84
You talk about DD's radar sense, Shiva knows your every move before you make it.

She read individuals body language. She can bee tricked and it not fool prove. Radar senses allows him to know the attack, prior to it been sent and can not be miss lead like the ability to read body language. DD radar senses all so can work no matter if he facing batman or not, shiva can not say the same.

Originally posted by thadarknite84
Richard Dragon is yet another MA, who is consider one of the best in DC. He also was defeated by The Dark Knight.

Good for him, but as I recall there was more to it and Richard was not as his best.

Also how does this mean he defeats Daredevil?

Originally posted by thadarknite84
Batman is at a level that one can either match him or they would need some kind of enhancements to beat him. Like Slade, Captain America or Prometheus.

Also individuals with out enhancement’s have defeat and best Batman before.

Also Capt is just as skilled as batman.

[QUOTE=10376303]Originally posted by thadarknite84
[B] And even people with powers can meet defeat.


Daredevil has and does drop individuals with powers.

Originally posted by thadarknite84
Because Batman is a master planner.

I know this, but again it has little relevance’s in a non prep match.

Originally posted by thadarknite84
He would find a weakness to exploit.

How is he to do this? Daredevil on the other hand senses and radar allow him to senses weak points in Batmans body.

Originally posted by thadarknite84
Cassandra Cain and Nightwing are consider two people that may take him. And Nightwing is only considered because Batman trained him and that saids a lot about Batman.

That’s funny since Daredevil is like the combination between the two, but better.

Originally posted by thadarknite84
DD is also not peak human, Batman is.

Batman never been stated to be.

Also Daredevil is his superior in agility and reaction time. Batman is superior in strength and durability. Durability will not be a major factor due to Daredevil pressure point skills.

As for thoses combatants Daredevil has fought people such as Iron Fist, Captain America, Bulleye, Elektra, Black Widow and so on.

Batman is peak human.

if we consider capt superhuman then yes, but if capt is peak-human batman is as closes to peak-human as one can get with out enhancements such as SSS formula.

Originally posted by Creshosk
You do realize don't you that you don't actually accomplish anything on these boards right?

So simply dismissing a person's post and calling it a waste of time is not only intellectually dishonest but also hypocritical.

Let me ask you this, if responding to people posts in a debate forum is a waste of time, what the hell do you hope to accomplish by posting here?

Why bother posting at all?

You asked me why bother. Did you read Battlehammer's new post? He knows nothing about Batman or DC to me. DD is Cassandra Cain and Nightwing put together, Batman has never been stated to be peak human, what!!!!!! Creshosk, take a look at this

Originally posted by Battlehammer
This is true, but it does not pertain to the match. Superior intellect means little in a one on one hand two fights. The only time this would matter in such a scenario is if one individual was extremely dumb such as Rhino.

That is a matter of opinion. Again it really has little effect on this match up.

This does not win a match. As you your self has even argued. Also Batman does not have much of a training edge verses Daredevil. Both have been training since they were young kids.

Again this is a mater of opinion and pertains little to the out come of the match.

Daredevil sparing partner was Elektra for a very long time. She is consider the greatest ninja in the world and Daredevil has trained with and along said extensively.

Daredevil has also defeated Elektra.

Has he not also been defeated? Also did he not state him self that she was superior to him?

She read individuals body language. She can bee tricked and it not fool prove. Radar senses allows him to know the attack, prior to it been sent and can not be miss lead like the ability to read body language. DD radar senses all so can work no matter if he facing batman or not, shiva can not say the same.

Good for him, but as I recall there was more to it and Richard was not as his best.

Also how does this mean he defeats Daredevil?

Daredevil has and does drop individuals with powers.

I know this, but again it has little relevance’s in a non prep match.

How is he to do this? Daredevil on the other hand senses and radar allow him to senses weak points in Batmans body.

That’s funny since Daredevil is like the combination between the two, but better.

Batman never been stated to be.

Also Daredevil is his superior in agility and reaction time. Batman is superior in strength and durability. Durability will not be a major factor due to Daredevil pressure point skills.

As for thoses combatants Daredevil has fought people such as Iron Fist, Captain America, Bulleye, Elektra, Black Widow and so on.

And would somebody please talk some sense into him. I'm done this is not for some championship so I really don't care. I can't talk to someone who overrates a character as much as he does. Battlehammer I'm sorry, but are you nuts? Batgirl would destroy DD! Batman doesn't need prep. He's always thinking, even in the middle of a fight. Once again, Batman is more intelligent, more dedicated, has lot more training, and he is more focused. It's not an opinion, It's Batman's character. That's who he is. He is a perfectionist at every thing he does. And in the next tournament. I don't see how you would win with inaccurate information. Apart form DD having faster reflexes, Batman is a lot stronger, more skilled and can take more punishment. And he will out smart DD every time. It hurts my soul when I see the nonsense you post. Please I would rather someone with the same level of Batman knowledge, to prove to me why DD would beat Batman. I'm telling you right now you are not a challenge to me at all. All you have done is give me a headache.

Moon Knight is cool...I would like to see him kill a bunch of Ninjas, has he faced them before?

Originally posted by thadarknite84
You asked me why bother. Did you read Battlehammer's new post?

I think he be far more shocked by your posts through out the thread.

Originally posted by thadarknite84
He knows nothing about Batman or DC to me. DD is Cassandra Cain and Nightwing put together,

You are entitled to your opinion. Daredevil is quite similar to a mix between Nightwing and Cassandra cain, but better.

Originally posted by thadarknite84
Batman has never been stated to be peak human, what!!!!!! Creshosk, take a look at this

He is not going to be very surprised. Marvel coined the phrases and to date I do not recall DC ever using it.

So stop acting so surprised, if it has been stated merely provide evidences of this.

Originally posted by thadarknite84
And would somebody please talk some sense into him.

That is just what I been thinking through out this debate.

Originally posted by thadarknite84
I'm done this is not for some championship so I really don't care. I can't talk to someone who overrates a character as much as he does.

This is an amusing and ironic statement given all you have said through out this thread..

Originally posted by thadarknite84
Battlehammer I'm sorry, but are you nuts?

No I am quite sane, but thanks for the concern.

Originally posted by thadarknite84
Batgirl would destroy DD!

You come to this conclusion how?

Have you ever even read a Daredevil comic? I mean there absolutely no merit to this statement nor logical reasoning.

Originally posted by thadarknite84
Batman doesn't need prep. He's always thinking, even in the middle of a fight.

You just described pretty much any skilled fighter in either universe. He can think all he wishes, but it will not affect the out come of this fight.

Originally posted by thadarknite84
, more dedicated, has lot more training, and he is more focused. It's not an opinion, It's Batman's character. That's who he is. He is a perfectionist at every thing he does.

Again that is your opinion not a fact. It also does not effect the out come of this match up.

Again Batman has more training, but not by any vast amount.

Again that’s your opinion not a fact. Like I said before this will not affect the out come of the fight.

No it is an opinion. Sorry, but being a perfectionist does not make you more dedicated nor more focus then another individual.

Originally posted by thadarknite84
And in the next tournament. I don't see how you would win with inaccurate information.

What tournament are you speaking about? Again the irony in this statement.

Originally posted by thadarknite84
Apart form DD having faster reflexes, Batman is a lot stronger, more skilled and can take more punishment.

Batman is stronger, but not by the amount your thinking. Daredevil is not slouch in strength. Batman and Daredevil are both top tier fighters. Batman may have a skill advantage, but it by such a small margin it will not be a driving forces in the out come of the match.

Batman may be more durable, but Daredevil can take a beat and keep on coming. Durability will not be the deciding factor in a fight between the two.

Daredevil has the advantage in reflexes, agility and the ability to know batman attack before he makes it.

Originally posted by thadarknite84
And he will out smart DD every time.

Daredevil is not some common thug or less then average intelligences villain. He not going to be out smarted. It a hand two hand fight, how batman going to out smart him?

Originally posted by thadarknite84
It hurts my soul when I see the nonsense you post.

My souls fine, but your arguments do make me feel sorry for you.

Originally posted by thadarknite84
Please I would rather someone with the same level of Batman knowledge, to prove to me why DD would beat Batman.

I personally would like some one who not in love with Batman and who has actually read an issue with daredevil in it we all can’t get what we want now can we?

Originally posted by thadarknite84
I'm telling you right now you are not a challenge to me at all. All you have done is give me a headache.

What was the point in this? What are you a little kid who says stuff like this.

This is so amusing lol

Originally posted by thadarknite84
Battlehammer I'm sorry, but are you nuts?
No, battlehammer is not nuts...but he is suffering from a severe form of incurable fanboyism, and that tends to make him illogical and irrational at times.

Yea I am such a Daredevil fanboy master bruces........

pleases your idiocy knows no bounds.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Yea I am such a Daredevil fanboy master bruces........

pleases your idiocy knows no bounds.

i never said you were a daredevil fanboy 😐

You did not even look at my debate with him before speaking.........typical

Originally posted by Master-Borg
No, battlehammer is not nuts...but he is suffering from a severe form of incurable fanboyism, and that tends to make him illogical and irrational at times.
And what's your excuse?

Originally posted by Creshosk
And what's your excuse?
I was not aware I am a fanboy at all. And what's with you defending hammer all the time?!