Which character can take down the most Hand ninjas?

Originally posted by Ha-Son
It's not wise to speak to someone who is peak human in an insulting manner. 🥷

Well if he's peak human, the weak ass way he thinks Wolverine is peak human I don't have much to worry about.

he trying to argue Logan does not have meta human strength

Originally posted by Battlehammer
he trying to argue Logan does not have meta human strength

no, I'm trying to argue that

1) Logan is not 2x stronger than captain america

and

2) their strength are both about 800 - 1200 lbs

Originally posted by Master-Borg
no, I'm trying to argue that

1) Logan is not 2x stronger than captain america

and

2) their strength are both about 800 - 1200 lbs

No one said he was. You do know capt has feats that put him over 1,100 pouns right?

Lol even though all of his strength feats would reguire more then that lol.

We will finish it after I vinish my mid term. It 3 in the morning here i need to finish it in the next few hours.

Originally posted by Master-Borg
no, I'm trying to argue that

1) Logan is not 2x stronger than captain america

and

2) their strength are both about 800 - 1200 lbs

Even though Logan's flung 1600 pound dumpsters with a single hand.... right.

http://www.comixtreme.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-15074.html

found this discussion of Logan's abilities

one guy is arguing that Logan is a 25 tonner LOL

Originally posted by jinzin
Even though Logan's flung 1600 pound dumpsters with a single hand.... right.

so I guess Logan can now throw around small cars too huh? 🙄

Daredevil's been able to knock one on two wheels.

I don't see the problem here, Wolverine isn't a human being, he was close to peak human BEFORE his enhancments by way of weapon x. He's always been described as having phenominal strength.

He's in class four on marvel's strength rating system. Tossing around small cars? Not far my any means, but he's been able to push a car away using his upper body strength alone after having had his spine shattered in a car wreck.

A guy who's knocked roughouse, rogue, and caliban out cold with brute fists.. yeah I couldn't possibly imagine him with any abnormal strength.

Originally posted by thadarknite84
I don't overrate Batman. Every thing I said about batman is true. People think that Batman can't beat DD without gadgets and that DD is just as skilled of a fighter is BS. How is he a better fighter when it is clear that Batman has train a lot longer, and master all styles. That's not overrating him, that's the truth. The problem is that you and Battlehammer don't take that into consideration. All I hear is about DD's senses. It's funny how you don't remember Batman little fight with Grundy. Grundy is way beyond DD. But let me guest, Batman can't do anything to DD, right? Get the f**K out of here with that nonsense.

Here comes my slightly Underdog Fanboyism...

Daredevil beat Absorbing Man, and with intelligence as well.

Why do you think that Batman has trained for longer than Daredevil? He has knowledge of more styles, definitely, I'll give that to you, but I wouldn't necessarily say he's been trained better. Daredevil was trained by Stick and the Chaste, who are a band of ninjas that are also blind, use their senses to perfection, and have powers such as high durability, resurrection of the dead, and sucking the soul energy out of others.

I don't necessarily think that Batman would get absolutely stomped by DD, he wouldn't. DD would be hurting, but the real fact is that DD has 10x more experience with the Hand than Bats. Probably something to do with them being from different comic universes. -_-

Originally posted by jinzin

A guy who's knocked roughouse, rogue, and caliban out cold with brute fists.. yeah I couldn't possibly imagine him with any abnormal strength.

That was MA skill and adamantuim not brute strength.....geezzzzz! baka

I can see LOgan being class 5 max but not 10 tons.

Does strength matter so much in fights against scores of Hand Ninjas?

Originally posted by Etrigan
Does strength matter so much in fights against scores of Hand Ninjas?

Not really.

In a bit, I'll get up some scans of DD killing a great deal of them, mainly through sheer skill rather than strength. And he's not even using his billy club, he's using sai, which shows that he picked up techniques from Lekkie when she was alive.

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/1227/mflcontract0005aq9.jpg
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/4741/ddsaicv1.jpg
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/4038/ddsai2qo2.jpg

See, he's pretty adept at killing them. This, and his experience, would put his count higher than Batman's.

Originally posted by thadarknite84
I don't overrate Batman. Every thing I said about batman is true. People think that Batman can't beat DD without gadgets and that DD is just as skilled of a fighter is BS. How is he a better fighter when it is clear that Batman has train a lot longer, and master all styles. That's not overrating him, that's the truth. The problem is that you and Battlehammer don't take that into consideration. All I hear is about DD's senses. It's funny how you don't remember Batman little fight with Grundy. Grundy is way beyond DD. But let me guest, Batman can't do anything to DD, right? Get the f**K out of here with that nonsense.

Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
Grundy fights are pretty invalid unless that specific version fights a lot of people to get a benchmark going. He resurrects a lot you see and some Grundy's are barely above street level.

What about Killer Croc. He has a HF superhuman durability I would put him at least 3 tons, not that big a deal but hes not a pushover.

Apparently he has one feat where he rips a bank vault off its hinges.

In Hush he's smashed through very thick bulletproof glass, but that's the only real strength feat I can think of for him.

Originally posted by Etrigan
In Hush he's smashed through very thick bulletproof glass, but that's the only real strength feat I can think of for him.

I think id put him at 5 tons actually.

We're sort of off-topic anyway.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
That was MA skill and adamantuim not brute strength.....geezzzzz! baka

I can see LOgan being class 5 max but not 10 tons.

I don't think MA had anything to do with sending those characters flying 20 feet through brick walls. 😕

I think his MA skill is what's able to actually hurt them but make them fly? Nah..

I'd say Wolvie's max is probably about 3 tons,maybe 3 1/2.