Originally posted by Silent Master
I'm sorry, I thought my question implied that I was looking for specific names.Let's try this again, who(street thru low mid tier) do you think could beat Batman for the majority?
Wolverine
Deadpool
Iron Fist
Spider-Man
Captain America
Lady Shiva
Slade
Blade
Nightwing (maybe)
Cassandra Cain (maybe)
What superior endurance feats does Bruce possess? Daredevil has some endurance feats as well like fighting 100 amped up ninjas or his battle to close to death as he pushed himself against a older version of Ultron and in the death realm ect etc. I know Bruce has his own specific high endurance feats but why are his more superior?
Just some from my memory:
- Freefalling from 30 stories high and only coming out with a dislocated arm which didn't seem to bother him all that much
- Withstood the vaccum of space for 24 seconds (and was willing to go further until he was stopped) as a training exercise to prepare himself
- Buried underground and comes out just fine
- Severally weakened he easily overpowered 4 of best trained killers in the world (suppossedly anyway) hired by Riddler
- Survived a reinforced trap room full of lethal gas without his utility belt
- Took repeated blows from Clayface while his body was being crushed and still managed to defeat him plus Mr. Freeze
- Went through a gauntlet of super villains alongside Superman in addition to having to fight Black Lightning, Katana, Major Force, and Hawkman on the same day
- Took a massive beating from The Sensei who's far superior in skill and was even impaled but still managed to outsmart him to win the battle
- Has trained his body to go for days without sleep and is still able to go about his regular business
To be clear, even though I consider Bruce to be superior I don't think it will make the difference physically since they're pretty close in overall physical ability. I just believe Bruce's endurance and battle savvy will even out DD's speed and agility.
Originally posted by Phantom Ghost
Just some from my memory:- Freefalling from 30 stories high and only coming out with a dislocated arm which didn't seem to bother him all that much
- Withstood the vaccum of space for 24 seconds (and was willing to go further until he was stopped) as a training exercise to prepare himself
- Buried underground and comes out just fine
- Severally weakened he easily overpowered 4 of best trained killers in the world (suppossedly anyway) hired by Riddler
- Survived a reinforced trap room full of lethal gas without his utility belt
- Took repeated blows from Clayface while his body was being crushed and still managed to defeat him plus Mr. Freeze
- Went through a gauntlet of super villains alongside Superman in addition to having to fight Black Lightning, Katana, Major Force, and Hawkman on the same day
- Took a massive beating from The Sensei who's far superior in skill and was even impaled but still managed to outsmart him to win the battle
- Has trained his body to go for days without sleep and is still able to go about his regular businessTo be clear, even though I consider Bruce to be superior I don't think it will make the difference physically since they're pretty close in overall physical ability. I just believe Bruce's endurance and battle savvy will even out DD's speed and agility.
I don't think its superior. Superiors is Cap's or Slade IMO. I'd say better but superior might be pushing it. As I consider DD's speed better then Bruce but not superior.
IMO
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Wait one minute, you're assuming thats standard armour? Isnt that prep? Werent these OMACS fighting really powerful metas?
It was his normal suit. 🙂
http://s211.photobucket.com/albums/bb320/batdude123/?action=view¤t=alskjf.jpg
Originally posted by batdude123
It was his normal suit. 🙂http://s211.photobucket.com/albums/bb320/batdude123/?action=view¤t=alskjf.jpg
Hold a minute. Arent Omacs supposed to know the weaknesses and areas to hit of all the heroes?
I don't think its superior. Superiors is Cap's or Slade IMO. I'd say better but superior might be pushing it. As I consider DD's speed better then Bruce but not superior.
That's my mistake I used the wrong word here. I didn't mean that Bruce's endurance is so much better that he outclasses Matt's but rather that he has an edge on him just like Matt has an edge on Bruce in agility. I agree with you. As I said before, overall they're pretty evenly matched physically anyway.
Tell me about this "Survived a reinforced trap room full of lethal gas without his utility belt" sounds pretty impressive how did he do it?
Determination more then anything I'd say. He barely survived and was unconscious btw but he managed to come out of it alive no less. There was another time when Ra's trapped him in an ozone death chamber that he escaped from using a yoga breathing technique and escape artistry.
Hold a minute. Arent Omacs supposed to know the weaknesses and areas to hit of all the heroes?
Batman one weakness has always been that he's human (although an exceptional one) which is why the OMAC drone was able to overpower him. Although they originally sent more then one to take him down and capture Sasha. Then again, I'd say there's a reason for that since Superman once refered to Batman as the world's most dangerous man when the White Martians laughed at him being a threat to them since he was only human according to them. I don't think Max wanted to take any risks with Batman.
Speaking of OMAC, here's Batman OMAC file and how they rank him:
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/batomacfile.jpg
Originally posted by batdude123
It was his normal suit. 🙂http://s211.photobucket.com/albums/bb320/batdude123/?action=view¤t=alskjf.jpg
Ok did they know they were coming to get him?
That was from Hush, right? Didn't he need brain surgery after that due to a shattered skull? Or am I thinking about a different storyline.
Different storylines.
During the Hush story arc he was chasing after Catwoman when his cable line was cut in mid swing out of no where while his full attention was on capturing Selina. You're correct about the rest.
In the story arc I'm refering too, Deadshot shoots Batman's cable line while Bruce is heading towards him which causes Batman to freefall from 30 stories high. However, using agility and skill he's able to survive and only come out with a dislocated shoulder which he has popped back into place without it really bothering him.
In another story arc about the Riddler, a bomb detonates on him causing him freefall several stories high as well and he ends up hitting the ground but gets right back up although he's definitely hurting.
