Necromancer (Diablo) Vs. Kratos, Siegfried, Ganon, Yoshimitsu and Hayabusa

Started by MadMel8 pages

Originally posted by dat_boi
yeah ive played diablo2 didnt really care 4 it but got through it, my bad 90% speed reduc. well 10% of the running power shown in yoshi and hayabusa is enuf to at least be able to run at a lil over average speeds
i said 90% +, meaning that, because of the necros armour (extra stat), that = 99%..and thats just gameplay, cuz when someone is crippled (as in avery bone crushed) in real life, that dont just walk around and attack slowly, they simply do not move at all..
Originally posted by dat_boi
hades is a god only in gow😕 huh? u know there was a lil thing called GREEK MYTHOLOGY! on which gow is based and i really dont feel like going over over freshman year bs wit u to remind u the kind of stuff the gods did. i never said numbers gave them the win i said considering feats and numbers i think that team takes it i dont think necro could keep these spells going long enuf he might kill 1 or 2 possibly 3 guys in the process but these guys would run him out of mana and then once that happens he's done

1. im am fully aware of greek mythology.
2. now you contradicting yourself
3. full powered necros dont run out of mana...they simply dont..its a fact..
Originally posted by dat_boi
i mean these guys are to tuff youve got kratos that can rip his opponents in half like a wet paper towel and overpower beings the size of a city blocc so god only knows exactly how strong this guy is so taking some of his strength doesnt reduce his blows to "scratch" status as far as being blind ryu could just smoke bomb the place up and see who fights better in the dark the like i said if kratos bombs the bone mages with posiedons rage then hes gonna b all by his lonely now i highly doubt the bone spears r gonna b hitting on target and as for bone spirits those things ll get out ran and dodged all day even at 10% speed. team. 😮‍💨

1. i know how strong kratos is..the fact is that even though he will be very strong even with weaken, he wont get anywhere near the necro or his minions
2. as the other have said, the smoke bombs will actually help the necromancer, not hinder him
3. you dont get it do you - kratos, as well as the whole team, wont be doing shit, because they'll be -
a. too weak and crippled to move
b. will be pouned on by bone mages, and because lower resist is affecting them, they'll be extra affected..in fact, if any of the bone mages are frost mages they'll be frozen and unable to move at all, let alone struggle
c. they have bone spirits and bone spears hitting them from any/all directions, thanks to the necros teleport..
necro wins

oh for the record, bone mages can take hits from the magic of the prime evils (whos magic >>>>>>>>>>> kratos'😉 and not die, so the posiedon's rage thing is moot..

Originally posted by DarkC
Moot point, the bone spirit would sense the presence of its true victim and not that of a soulless clone.
1. can u prove these clones dont have souls or dont have pieces of yoshis soul or use the power of yoshis soul. 2. wuts this "true victim" garbage get that out of here i aint never seen bone spirits have to differentiate between ninja clones so whos 2 say ur type of magic is more effective than mine. talkin bout some "tru victim" u gon find out who's the try victim wen he gets caught up by the goons

1. it worked with baal, why not someone far weaker?
2. thats probably coz youve never played up to baal, or any enemy who can clone themselves..the bone spirit can tell the difference between a baal clone and the real baal, so yea, it aint garbage 🙄

Originally posted by MadMel
1. it worked with baal, why not someone far weaker?
2. thats probably coz youve never played up to baal, or any enemy who can clone themselves..the bone spirit can tell the difference between a baal clone and the real baal, so yea, it aint garbage 🙄

Phail! Yoshi is a better cloner than Baal 🪩

Originally posted by MadMel
i said 90% +, meaning that, because of the necros armour (extra stat), that = 99%..and thats just gameplay, cuz when someone is crippled (as in avery bone crushed) in real life, that dont just walk around and attack slowly, they simply do not move at all..

1. im am fully aware of greek mythology.
2. now you contradicting yourself
3. full powered necros dont run out of mana...they simply dont..its a fact..

1. i know how strong kratos is..the fact is that even though he will be very strong even with weaken, he wont get anywhere near the necro or his minions
2. as the other have said, the smoke bombs will actually help the necromancer, not hinder him
3. you dont get it do you - kratos, as well as the whole team, wont be doing shit, because they'll be -
a. too weak and crippled to move
b. will be pouned on by bone mages, and because lower resist is affecting them, they'll be extra affected..in fact, if any of the bone mages are frost mages they'll be frozen and unable to move at all, let alone struggle
c. they have bone spirits and bone spears hitting them from any/all directions, thanks to the necros teleport..
necro wins

oh for the record, bone mages can take hits from the magic of the prime evils (whos magic >>>>>>>>>>> kratos'😉 and not die, so the posiedon's rage thing is moot..


1. well logic told me other wise seeing how u said hades was a god only in gow
2. no look at the words i typed there almost identical both times i say
3. as for every thing else im really tired of arguin
ganon posesses the necro, yoshi flys the necro over an obelisk, (they tend to have lots of those in graveyards) yoshi drops his ass for the impale, b4 he dies ganon unpossesses him, sig hayabusa an kratos while peeved they didnt get involved in the fight all put on smiles as they take a big group picture around the obelisk which officially bcomes a monument to the necros inferiority. clapping

what utter crap 😂
you come up with this ridiculas scenario cuz you have nothing better to argue, not to mention it completely ignores all of my points?
bravo 🙄
1. i was talking about videogames..i felt sure that was obvious...i guess not 😬
2. yea, kinda misread your post...it doesnt matter since feats and numbers mean absolute jack here...how are their feats gonna help when they're cralwing on the ground wimpering as all of their bones are crushed and their eyes blinded, as well as getting pounded by minions relentlessly?
3. heh

ridiculous scenario? um ganon can possess so i see no reason y this is not probable. and as for ignorin ur points i just figured we were gonna go bacc and forth rewording the same points over and over cuz i wasnt movin and neither were u, so i figured id change up a lil bit and try som new. dont hate 😠 appreciate 😱

its ridiculas because your assuming that ganon will move fast enough before he goets owned with curses 😛

Originally posted by dat_boi
1. can u prove these clones dont have souls or dont have pieces of yoshis soul or use the power of yoshis soul.

Because as far as Namco is concerned, the said clones of Yoshimitsu can do motor functions such as walk and fight and to a point, talk, but for the clone to carry a piece of his soul you need something that carries a bit of his personality, such as the ritual katana that is continually passed down among his clan, and I doubt he’d sacrifice such a precious weapon for something mundane as a duplicate.

They’re just golems in other words, made from something corporeal off of him, such as blood or hair or flesh.

Originally posted by dat_boi
2. wuts this "true victim" garbage get that out of here i aint never seen bone spirits have to differentiate between ninja clones

By true victim I mean the actual victim that the bone spirit is seeking out. It’s like a guided missile. It recognizes the victim by the aura of their spiritual presence, so it cannot be blinded or confused.

Even if the victim grabbed someone and held them in front of him as some sort of human shield, the bone spirit would just dodge around the guy being used as a shield and careen into its victim. It attacks with discretion.

Originally posted by dat_boi
so whos 2 say ur type of magic is more effective than mine. talkin bout some "tru victim" u gon find out who's the try victim wen he gets caught up by the goons

Considering that you haven’t offered a single piece of evidence or point that hasn’t been refuted by someone here, then yes, “my” type of magic (the world of Diablo’s) is more effective than yours.

I suggest you stop trash talking over something as inane as a debate in a vs, forum over video game characters, it’s remarkably sad.

no bcuz ganons possess move moves just as fast as all necros moves he also has tele😮‍💨 and even if he does manage 2 cast something theres no way he can 1 shot gannon b4 necro gets pwned,theres no gettin around this 1 bub 💃

DarkC calm down aint no 1 trash talking i mean i may throw in the occasional off topic fun brand of trash talking but nothing that is intended 2 b offensive towards any 1

Originally posted by dat_boi
no bcuz ganons possess move moves just as fast as all necros moves he also has tele😮‍💨

Necromancer also has teleport, and has a faster start up time, like Diamond and I said earlier.
Originally posted by dat_boi
and even if he does manage 2 cast something theres no way he can 1 shot gannon b4 necro gets pwned,theres no gettin around this 1 bub 💃

It doesn't need to be a one shot.

You can pretty much blab on and on about how "necro would get pwned" but unless you have a good and insightful argument or point that proves such and that I, nor anyone else can't refute, then you're just noise in the background of the actual debate.

Originally posted by dat_boi
DarkC calm down aint no 1 trash talking i mean i may throw in the occasional off topic fun brand of trash talking but nothing that is intended 2 b offensive towards any 1

I'm calm. Despite your belief, if you had looked and taken the time to read my posts properly you would not find a hint that I am not.

Congrats, you just won the "I'm a Perceptive Puppy!" award for April.

Whether it's fun or not, trash talking is still trash talking. The "we'll just see when" comment reeks of it, and being on a place like this is just ridiculous, is what it is.

this guy reminds me of furion...no debate, just spamming useless points 😛

alrigt 4 1 DarkC i was under the impression that since u brought up trash talking that i had said something 2 offend u either way my bad i didnt mean to take wut u sed out of contextdoh but as far as the overall arguement goes i admit u guys had me cornered alot of the stuff i brought up turned out to be inneffective against this chars skillset and u guys taught me 1. this char really isnt all that much of a punk (despite wut i may have said in some of my "trash talking"😉 2. theres a lot of shit i didnt know about diablo so yeah i got schooled. the only thing that honestly looking bacc on it now is the only chance 4 these guys is that last scenario.

well unless jax decides to bring something else up, i say this thread is goin on the "dead" pile 😬

Ok From what I understand about necromancer's is they have nice abilities but they have their flaws. One thing I notice is they all have Durations and and range of effect. The most I have seenis around 8 yards. Staying out of 8 yards from an opponent is not that hard specially if your fast and or has teleportation. but im still reading through.

Ryu hayabusa has immortal clones having the ability to create and control two of them. They are reistent to all magic and and physical damage and can only be taken out by Ryu dying and or Running out of stamina. They have all of RYu hayabusa techniques and skills.Art of the spirit clone or(Phantom Clones) would give this person a run for their money .

Now these poison attacks. From what I beleive they seem to be airbourne. As you can simply blow things out of the air or move the contaiminated particles with high winds. Art of the Hurricane when he summons hurricanes of intense winds to blow away targets and air particles. Since the poison doesnt last for long. Even if it does make contact. the posion should quickly run its course through the body. Ryu The Art of Divine lines. complete heals him of damage and all inflictions. So the posion and all curses put on him should be dispelled by this.

Now the bone armor and sheilds and walls. They are highly resistent to damage but from what I read they can be broken. By magic abilities. Just not by melee attacks. Such as punches, kicks, sword slashes ext.

Well Basically Ryu should be able to just use ninpo and or his powerful spirit energy attack which are all quite quick.

i dont think the bone Sheilds or bone wall is going to stop the Art of the Peircing Void. When ryu summons meteors to crush his targets. So basically Ryu can summon a meteor and obliterate the sheilds and take out the necro all n one blow.

Ryu has gotten faster over the instalments. Specially in NGII where his higest speed achiveble which were during his essence moves he can simply move like that at will in the forms of dashes. Right now Ryu Hayabusa has the speed of Loz and maybe even Weiss. at full speed. So Ryu can definetly catch and deal damage. On top of that he has teleportation.

Ryu range attacks such as his spirit energy blades should be a problem as well. When he slices in to the wind and multiple energy blades emerge and home in on their targets to slice them through.

Also since You just said Ryu hayabusa doesnt have his Dragon Blades. You mentioned nothing about the Demon Stones he has in his possession. He can simply summon an enitity more powerful then the Dark dragon(well rivals its powers) to take on Necromancer.

Also since everyone seems to have the ability to summon their Minions. Is Ryu Hayabusa able to summon upon the force of the Hayabusa clan since he is their leader

There are alot of items, abilities, and factors that you are overlooking upon these characters. I highly doubt after looking over all Necromancers abilities he will be able to take on ALL of them. One on one maybe give them a run for their money and even be able to beat them. Right now im gathering up more information for my argument. So please dont dispute this.

no problem..lemme just address the first bit
most of the ingame stat are highly under exagerated...get to the highest of levels, and the necros range is that of the screen and further..as for duration, it doesnt matter, as this is perfect ai, and he simply recast all the curses again the instant the time runs out..since curses are the necro's trump card, this is the only point i need to address, as most other points are moot the second the necro activates decripify, blind, weaken, iron maiden and lower resist 😬

The greatest advantage I see for the Necromancer is the fact that his teleport is more effective, faster and more controlable than the others hmm This is what makes me so certain about his victory, since he will not be caught.

hellz yea!
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