Thor Vs Wonder Woman (Fist Fight)

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I do take it into consideration, but I don't think it's as simple as that. It kinda sounds more like an excuse. Because they sure have been in a lot of situations that would have called for that level of combat speed. They've both been pushed to the brink several times. Flash, Zoom, amped-Cheetah for Wonder Woman and Gladiator, Balder, Hermes for Thor.

Fact: They've never on-panel punched and kicked at the same FTL speeds as they do when they defend and parry. Fact: They've fought a lot of speedster opponents and historically speaking, they don't match their combat speed. Fact: They've both stated on-panel that they have great difficulty with speedster opponents.

I'd like to think Wonder Woman and Thor could have FTL combat speeds. But at the same time, they've never demonstrated them. And that's key for me. Besides, several things seem to contradict that they could. And actually, if you care to know, I am of the opinion that Wonder Woman has a bit better combat speed than Thor. I also think her melee skills are more suited for this fight and she has an advantage there. I personally think Wonder Woman is very underrated. But compared to Thor's experience advantage, strength advantage and durability advantage... I'd pick Thor for a slight majority. I have seen him beast without Mjolnir.

Thor 6/10.

WW is stronger (prove me wrong), more durable to blunt force (prove me wrong), and has the same amount of experience (she's thousands of years old too). Thor has no advantages here. Thus he loses.

Originally posted by olympian
We arent talking on how much the Serpent weigthed, blueballs. No number is asserted, and its not even important. This only goes to show how you dont even know what is being debated.

All that matters is what Thor`s strength in a struggle did compared with what the strength of WW hasent done so far. Or it HAS but only with ASSISTS. Get another hobby. Like fishing. It doesnt take much to understand fishing from what i hear.

And if that was still the case, she still wouldnt be older than Thor or Hercules because she hasent been in events that spanned over five thousands years like they have, has she?

It doesnt mean anything because, wheter her reaction time is good or not, her slugfest examples arent any different of bricks who are by supossition slower.

Originally posted by h1a8
I'm not blueballs (neither do I have them since I just masturbated to internet porn).

Golly, retard. Thats some blog insecurity you got there.

Originally posted by h1a8
You must understand, that without your implication of the serpent weighing a lot then the feat that you are so desperately trying to use in order to prove why Thor is stronger would be useless. So how is the serpent's weight not important again?

My implication wasent that the Serpent was weigthless. Thats yours, and a wrong one at that.

The Serpent certainly weigths something. The enough to shake the Earth in a struggle with Thor. Thats enough for the feat. You cant even run and lie about it when its described on panel.

What we dont have its the exact numbering for the Serpents weigth, but we dont need to because we can SEE what the effect is. Moreso, the feat counts as impressive because Thor with strength alone against something/someone else shaked the globe. Diana so far only accomplishs that kind of shit if she has someone else helping her, like "her" Moon and Earth feats. Its not even against someone else, its by assist.

What a whooping of can ass your making me giving you. Its clear you didnt read anything at all, so why argue with an ignorant blueballs like you?

Originally posted by h1a8
If the serpent's body doesn't weigh anything then the feat doesn't prove anything. Are you getting frustrated since you are losing? 😆

Read above, loser.

In comparation, we take a look at the migthy feat involving WW and Superman in trying to catch the Spectre that had (as well) a non given accurate weigth other than "it weigths like shit". And yet, it couldnt even dent the Moon.

Wich is better? Lock yourself up. Spare us of your stupitidy.

Originally posted by h1a8
This makes no sense what you are saying here. Totally fukked up logic. If she is thousands of years old then she was in events thousands of years ago (whether we seen them or not is moot).

Then tell me wich events wer those. Tell me accuractly how exactly old she is. Nada? Shit, thats impressive.

Your sticking to this like a man in the Ocean trying to grab a piece of ravaged wood.

Originally posted by h1a8
Blah Blah Blah. Thor has no advantages here thus he loses because im a wonder fanboy who cant answer to anything other than bitching about how wrong it should be. I need to stop loving Wonder Woman so much I think she's becoming very uncomfortable with me on her balls all the time. I cant be objective my friend.

Its ok. An Olimpic Ownage tm of epic proportions for ongoing pages can do that.

But do not worry. You are not alone in this.

And just in case you make more idiotic replies of basically nothing to contribute at all, other than your cumpulsive desorder of assumptions:

Originally posted by h1a8
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Yes, we know.

*hands napkin*.

Originally posted by olympian
Golly, retard. Thats some blog insecurity you got there.

My implication wasent that the Serpent was weigthless. Thats yours, and a wrong one at that.

The Serpent certainly weigths something. The enough to shake the Earth in a struggle with Thor. Thats enough for the feat. You cant even run and lie about it when its described on panel.

What we dont have its the exact numbering for the Serpents weigth, but we dont need to because we can SEE what the effect is. Moreso, the feat counts as impressive because Thor with strength alone against something/someone else shaked the globe. Diana so far only accomplishs that kind of shit if she has someone else helping her, like "her" Moon and Earth feats. Its not even against someone else, its by assist.

What a whooping of can ass your making me giving you. Its clear you didnt read anything at all, so why argue with an ignorant blueballs like you?

In comparation, we take a look at the migthy feat involving WW and Superman in trying to catch the Spectre that had (as well) a non given accurate weigth other than "it weigths like shit". And yet, it couldnt even dent the Moon.

Then tell me wich events wer those. Tell me accuractly how exactly old she is. Nada? Shit, thats impressive.

The crux of our argument seems to be whether an ethereal snake is weightless or not. Note that ethereal means 'intangible'. So if the serpent weighing something contradicts it being intangible. You also imply it 'physically' shook the Earth where I say it 'magically' caused Earthquakes (as said officially). Who's correct?

Originally posted by h1a8
I was just joking (I think you know, just making sure). Except for the masturbation part. 😛

Aha. So it was a blog!

Shame on you, boy.

Originally posted by h1a8
For what's it worth, I'm going to say the head weighed something (since the handbook said only the head materialized). So Thor actually did an awesome feat anyway.

Comic > Handbooks, for evidence.

Originally posted by h1a8
The serpent created earthquakes, storms, etc. [B]magically (not physically) as proven earlier. If Dr. Strange creates worldwide earthquakes ('shakes the Earth' in your language) with his magic then does he weigh a lot? Or if you lift him would that make you stronger than WW?[/B]

Proven? You need to give me proof from the comic of what you say for me to even consider it.

Originally posted by h1a8
As it is, ive read the story. Alot of us read that story. And. The. Earth. Was. shaking. Globally. Because. Of. A . Physical. Struggle. Between. Thor. And. The. Serpent. No matter what some dumb handbooks who have the universal rep of not even being all that accurate says.

So, how does that make him stronger than WW? Its simple. She doesnt have this kind of feat range without help. And as noted, this isent Thor`s only feat of that range.

[QUOTE=10439563]Originally posted by h1a8
[B]So it doesn't prove that WW is stronger than Thor. But the serpent feat doesn't prove that Thor is stronger than WW. So were both satisfied.

Oh, i am satisfied. because it proves exactly what im saying.

You dont like it? Deal with it.

Originally posted by h1a8
This is what I was saying in the beginning, we don't the exact age of these two. So simply saying one is older than the other without proof is asinine.

Oh, we know something at least. Thor is at least 5.000 years old, and WW is.....hum.

How much?

Far as i see the only assasine thing is too claim shes older and got more experience without having zip to back it up.

Originally posted by h1a8
The crux of our argument seems to be whether an ethereal snake is weightless or not.

No, it isent.

Its what the struggle caused.

[QUOTE=10439563]Originally posted by h1a8
[B]Note that ethereal means 'intangible'. So if the serpent weighing something contradicts it being intangible. You also imply it 'physically' shook the Earth where I say it 'magically' caused Earthquakes (as said officially). Who's correct?

I am.

Because the story shows the struggle causing effects on the physical realm, aka: The Earth.

Its actually simple, ya see: When the Serpent was quiet, it was allll o-kay. When Thor decided to have some Worm for dinner, suddently Earthquakes started to happen alll over the Earth. At the same time.

But im sure it was a coincidence, nothing related at all with the cause in question.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Wonder Woman's travelling speed means nothing in a slugfest. Besides your scan is more reasonably read that Superman and Flash are on another level entirely from Wonder Woman, considering that Superman and Flash are zooming around in China and Egypt respectively and Wonder Woman is... still in the same park they were originally at. That kind of made me lol. Wonder Woman is nowhere near Flash's level of combat speed and even she is painfully aware of that fact:

I'll give credit where it's due. It really does seem like she's in the same park. 😆

How does one vibrate invisible and undetectable without superspeed though?

Originally posted by Newjak
Yes.

Oh wait I forgot Thor is nothing without his hammer right 🙂

ummmm....

wonderwomans wardrobe

tiara

braclets

magic laso

magical sword

shield.

i think womder woman has a chance if she gets a duribility boost, maching thor for strength she can do.

I think I would back Thor in h2h combat. It'd be a good scrap though.

WW wins. Even if they're even in strength but she's still way faster.

Originally posted by h1a8
Let's see

Strength is even (even though I think WW is stronger)

Speed goes to WW

Fighting skill goes to WW

Blunt durability goes to WW (Thor couldn't have withstood the punch that sent WW from the sun to earth in seconds since Hulk has koed him with far less power)

Experience is about even (WW is thousands of years old too)

Thor has no advantages over WW. None!
The only way it is possible for someone to say that Thor wins is through sheer fanboyism.

Agreed. This goes to Wonder Woman hand and foot.

this being kmc, it's not surprising some people think ww would win.

OK. I HAVE TO DISPELL SOME MISCONCEPTIONS ABOUT WONDER WOMAN.

SOME PEOPLE THINK THAT SHE IS NOT THOUSANDS OF YEARS OLD.
WONDER WOMAN WAS BORN THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO TO HIPOLYTA. SHE AND SUPERMAN BOTH ARE THOUSANDS OF YEARS OLD FROM FIGHTING WITH DC'S THOR IN HELL OR SOMETHING.

PEOPLE ALSO SEEM TO THINK THAT WONDER WOMAN ISN'T AS SKILLED AS THOR. GEEZ. LIKE WONDER WOMAN ACTUALLY HAS SKILL FEATS. THOR FIGHTS LIKE A BRUISER.

WONDER WOMAN DOES FIGHT AND MOVE AT FTL SUPER SPEEDS. I MEAN HOW ELSE DID SHE EVEN KEEP UP WITH THE LIKES OF ZOOM, FLASH, SUPERMAN IN COMBAT, ETC?

WONDER WOMAN CLEARLY IS AT THE TOP OF THE FOOD CHAIN WITH OTHER PEOPLE LIKE SUPERMAN WHEN IT COMES TO BLUNT FORCE TRAUMA. SHE'S TAKEN SHOTS TO THE DOME FROM SUN AMPED CRAZY SUPERMAN, SUPERBOY PRIME, DARKSIED, OBLIVION, ZOOM, ARES, ZEUS, AND MORE.

IN A HAND TO HAND FIGHT BETWEEN OLD THOR AND WONDER WOMAN, SHE WOULD WIN. SIMPLY BECAUSE SHE HAS ACTUAL SKILL FEATS AND SHE'S GOT BETTER REFLEXES AND BETTER SPEED. EVEN IF SHE DIDN'T HAVE HER BRACELETS, WE KNOW THAT SHE WOULD BE ABLE TO BLOCK MOST IF NOT ALL OF THOR'S PUNCHES.

THEN LET'S NOR FORGET THAT WW HEALS FASTER THAN THOR AND HAS THE ABILITY TO HEAL EVEN FASTER IF SHE WISHES. SHE COULD ALSO JUST PUNCH THOR WITH HER SLEEP TOUCH AND WIN.

THOR IS COOLER, WONDER WOMAN IS BETTER.

If it's current Thor with the Odinforce I don't see her taking more then 4/10 agaisnt him. Plus Thor has defeated SS (whom is vastly beyond WW as far as speed,strength..basically everything) on two seperate occasions.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
If it's current Thor with the Odinforce I don't see her taking more then 4/10 agaisnt him. Plus Thor has defeated SS (whom is vastly beyond WW as far as speed,strength..basically everything) on two seperate occasions.

WW will beat thor 10/10.......supes and doomsday are holding him down..... 😆 😆

This again!
WW is at least equal strength, faster, more skill.
Thor can't win a majority (unless you in bias see Thor as a man fighting a woman).

mijolnir deforms the bracelets and her ulna and radius with them in one attack, unless ww durability > dread destroyer's.

then as she is mourning her arms, mijolnir comes at her chin golf swing style, checkmate.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
mijolnir deforms the bracelets and her ulna and radius with them in one attack, unless ww durability > dread destroyer's.

then as she is mourning her arms, mijolnir comes at her chin golf swing style, checkmate.

This is a fist fight. That means no hammers allowed.

no bracelet and tiara also...?