SSJ hulk vs warrior mad thor

Originally posted by Estacado
Still he couldn't hurt or ko Surfer.
In Planet Hulk Surfer was depowered and he didn't want to fight after his control disk was destroyed that was the time when Hulk attacked him.

True to Planet Hulk. I was just "lol"ing at the image of Hulk plastering his ass into the ground.

Though, I wouldn't say he couldn't hurt or KO surfer, he's never really had much of a chance to try all out. Surfer sapped of his strength before Hulk could really do anything.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
That's only tossing a 200 pound character... when Surfer fights Hulk, he makes Hulk look really... really bad.

And Planet Hulk had circumstances. 😬

psst, jinzin -- ignore bran/slipperyfist. he gets . . . confused sometimes. just smile and be nice and he'll go away. 🙂

Originally posted by jinzin
Though, I wouldn't say he couldn't hurt or KO surfer, he's never really had much of a chance to try all out. Surfer sapped of his strength before Hulk could really do anything.

Ummm.. I think I said in that very post that Hulk can't take Surfer in a fight. 😕

ah ain't reed all yo postz. 13

Personally id say that SSJ hulk wins this. Thor does have great enrgy manipulation powers but i dont think they in SS league. SS has shown he can manipulate nearly all forms of enrgy evn magical. Plus manipulating the crunch enrgies is a far greater feat than thor can eva have. But thats beside the point, i am not evn sure if thor can drain the hulks enrgies at all considering that he was channeling it at anb uncontrollable rate. And considering this is warrior mad thor that would not evn be an option. He would simply go in looking to kill the hulk with blasts and hard hits and well fighting like that would get him killed really quickly . SSJ hulk 9/10

What is this SSJ Hulk? SuperSaiyan Jin Hulk? WTF!!

Originally posted by jinzin
In that same arc Cap was giving Fenris problems.. I don't think they would have faired much better against "ssj" Hulk so I'm not sure what that proves.

Cap has given Holocaust, The Hulk and plenty others problems.

Point?

Originally posted by llagrok
Cap has given Holocaust, The Hulk and plenty others problems.

Point?

My point is that Fenris wasn't being portrayed as some Uber foe. That using Thor's fight against Fenris and Loki really doesn't prove a whole lot when it comes to Hulk. I thought I already made that clear. 😐

what kind of WM Thor attack do people think would affect "SSJ" Hulk?
seriously, no bashing or anything, just asking.

obviously I'm of the opinion nothing Thor can throw at Hulk can actually hurt Hulk, but that's just my opinion...

Originally posted by xJLxKing
What is this SSJ Hulk? SuperSaiyan Jin Hulk? WTF!!

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
He hit him with 'all his strength' once, and Surfer laughed it off. He was also stomping on his head, and basically getting free shots while he was Bannerless to no effect... srug

ah ain't reed all yo postz. 13

I mean you don't see a difference in Hulk being melted to the bone and punching out the guy on the other side of a blast and him crying out "you're killing me?"

I won't argue that Silver Surfer didn't look like he was in much pain, but if the hits had "no" effect why on earth did he put up a force field? 😕

All I'm gonna say is that Hulk's put the "oh shit" face on SS far more than not. I think it's for a reason. But, I suppose this really doesn't have much to do with the debate at hand.

I don't see Thor being able to beat SS as proof that the can whomp Hulk when all direct comparison between the two dictate otherwise.

Originally posted by janus77
what kind of WM Thor attack do people think would affect "SSJ" Hulk?
seriously, no bashing or anything, just asking.

obviously I'm of the opinion nothing Thor can throw at Hulk can actually hurt Hulk, but that's just my opinion...

thos jugs are hypnotic, who is that?

That's Mai from King of Fighters, and Fatal Fury.

Originally posted by jinzin
That's Mai from King of Fighters, and Fatal Fury.

Originally posted by janus77
dammit, I need an X-Box 🙁.

😂

those are actually old Snes and Sega games.

Originally posted by leonidas
psst, jinzin -- ignore bran/slipperyfist. he gets . . . confused sometimes. just smile and be nice and he'll go away. 🙂

Originally posted by jinzin
😂

those are actually old Snes and Sega games.

Originally posted by jinzin
Bannerless doesn't automatically make a badass Hulk. Infact a lot of the rage and raw power that Hulk gets eminates from Banner's psychological problems. 😬

I mean you don't see a difference in Hulk being melted to the bone and punching out the guy on the other side of a blast and him crying out "you're killing me?"

I won't argue that Silver Surfer didn't look like he was in much pain, but if the hits had "no" effect why on earth did he put up a force field? 😕

All I'm gonna say is that Hulk's put the "oh shit" face on SS far more than not. I think it's for a reason. But, I suppose this really doesn't have much to do with the debate at hand.

I don't see Thor being able to beat SS as proof that the can whomp Hulk when all direct comparison between the two dictate otherwise.

😕
Are you comparing the U-Foes thing to the Surfer thing? Because the U-Foes were attacking him with power. Surfer was draining his gamma (which would have made Hulk non-existent). Hulk's not going to heal from that...

So he wouldn't be hit anymore? I mean, Surfer doesn't really like to be hit... especially when people are stomping on his head.

And he's never really been able to harm him. And Surfer's KO'ed him like 4 times.

Perhaps.

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Either way, I don't really care about this fight... srug

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Perhaps you're right... however, they turned off Banner's side to make him 'stronger'. He's basically the same Hulk that cracked Onslaught.

Don't think so.
There's different Hulk's just as there's different influences on Hulk by way of Banner...
And that was just my point. It ISN'T the same Hulk... The only thing they had in common was that Banner wasn't in control in any facet, way, shape, or form anymore. I'm sorry I should have clarified this earlier. This is why I think the example is skewed: We're using a version of Hulk who was suped up to a point of strength that hasn't been compared to since. We've already seen WM Thor take on and stupify SS, but we haven't seen "SSJ" Hulk fail to put Surfer down cause he never had the chance to try. Saying that (and I know it wasn't you but that's what got us here in the first place) WM Thor could put SS down, while ignoring that it was only OTHER versions of Hulk that have ever fought him and not "SSJ" doesn't make a convincing argument for Thor.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
😕
Are you comparing the U-Foes thing to the Surfer thing? Because the U-Foes were attacking him with power. Surfer was draining his gamma (which would have made Hulk non-existent). Hulk's not going to heal from that...

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
So he wouldn't be hit anymore? I mean, Surfer doesn't really like to be hit... especially when people are stomping on his head.
And he's never really been able to harm him. And Surfer's KO'ed him like 4 times.
Perhaps.
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Either way, I don't really care about this fight... srug

Originally posted by jinzin
Don't think so.
There's different Hulk's just as there's different influences on Hulk by way of Banner...
And that was just my point. It ISN'T the same Hulk... The only thing they had in common was that Banner wasn't in control in any facet, way, shape, or form anymore. I'm sorry I should have clarified this earlier. This is why I think the example is skewed: We're using a version of Hulk who was suped up to a point of strength that hasn't been compared to since. We've already seen WM Thor take on and stupify SS, but we haven't seen "SSJ" Hulk fail to put Surfer down cause he never had the chance to try. Saying that (and I know it wasn't you but that's what got us here in the first place) WM Thor could put SS down, while ignoring that it was only OTHER versions of Hulk that have ever fought him and not "SSJ" doesn't make a convincing argument for Thor.

Sorry, perhaps I need to clarify again. Other versions of Hulk, powerful versions, have had little care over their personal well being, but this manifestion was crying about how he was getting killed. it just reads off to me like he's a wimp compared to other manifestions.

Granted Hulk usually gets put down before he can hurt Surfer, I don't think Surfer's ever (EVER) had to deal with Hulk at the level of power that's being discussed here. And, both him, AND Thanos have made comments that they wouldn't want to either. To me, that says something.

However, Hulk sort of knows attacks that merely melt his skin off or whatever won't put him down. And he also knows that he's f*cked without gamma (especially when he has no human host to revert to). Plus, it could also be that he's telling his pacifist 'friend' to stop.

It's not Surfer's fault Hulk can't hurt him before he gets KO'ed, or the fight stops.

Surfer always fights Hulk... 😕
And prior to the Thanos comment, Thanos was in a previously weaker body... so I can't see how either has relevance to Hulk.

Anyway, Surfer could easily beat this Hulk anyway... it starts with raising an arm, and sucking his gamma away.

As for Thor... he'd have a better chance in his normal mindset.

I'm not arguing that SS couldn't beat any Hulk with Gamma manipulation. 😬

I was raising another point.

Thanos in a weaker body is still>>> Silver Surfer.

Silver Surfer's comment should also warrant merit.

I stand by what I said before, we have't seen surfer fight THAT hulk in terms of raw brute strength, so we can't use WM Thor beating Norrin against Hulk. 😬

Originally posted by jinzin
Bannerless doesn't automatically make a badass Hulk. Infact a lot of the rage and raw power that Hulk gets eminates from Banner's psychological problems. 😬

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
I know, but the Surfer thing was already brought up, so I figured "Why not?".
And I really hate talking about RRHulk, as his strength is so ambiguous, it's ridiculous. What he can do, and what he can't do is never shown. All we know is that he can potentially break the world, he's more powerful than he's been, and he's got gamma flowing off of him. And Iron Man's laser is powerful enough to KO him (yes I know Hulk let himself be hit, but he never lowered his durability... did he?).
How much can we really draw from this? If you were Devilhulk, you'd put him above abstract level, and others put him above Odin level ( 😐 )... so... he's pointless in debating about.
Until we see someone punk Iron Man's laser... 😖hifty:

However, Hulk sort of knows attacks that merely melt his skin off or whatever won't put him down. And he also knows that he's f*cked without gamma (especially when he has no human host to revert to). Plus, it could also be that he's telling his pacifist 'friend' to stop.

It's not Surfer's fault Hulk can't hurt him before he gets KO'ed, or the fight stops.

Surfer always fights Hulk... 😕
And prior to the Thanos comment, Thanos was in a previously weaker body... so I can't see how either has relevance to Hulk.

Anyway, Surfer could easily beat this Hulk anyway... it starts with raising an arm, and sucking his gamma away.

As for Thor... he'd have a better chance in his normal mindset.

Iron mans satellites neutralized his gamma enrgy and turned him back to banner. They did not physically knock him out or we would have seen an unconcious hulk before seeing him turn back to banner. That laser thing should not be used as a basis for determining that version of hulks durability. Since the hulks durability/HF grows together with his strength
it can be logically concluded ( not assumed) that his durability was FAAAAAAAAAAAAR higher than that of regualr WWH ( like a million times) so evn if you claim that it koed hulk by force it would mean that the lasers could equally ko guys like thor and surfer