Neo vs. Luke Skywalker

Started by McLovin52 pages
Originally posted by dadudemon
As long as you keep paying me to hold the camera...I don't mind if you make love to your mom. Does that make me a sicko?

Says the guy that begs his wife for sex.

Hint: She really wasn't at the gym last week.

Spoiler:
Actually, I was tiptoeing through her twoLips while beating around her bush.

haermm

Originally posted by McLovin
Says the guy that begs his wife for sex.

What?

Originally posted by McLovin
Hint: She really wasn't at the gym last week.

Spoiler:
Actually, I was tiptoeing through her twoLips while beating around her bush.

haermm

What???? She doesn't work out at a gym. Are you confusing me for someone else?

Originally posted by caedusrulesall
Y'know, the best tactic Luke has is still to hold Neo still in the Force with Force Stasis, then manhandle him with the lightsaber. And even if Neo manages to fly forward and punch Luke, Luke still has Force Protection Bubble to protect him, or he can use that thing where he can make himself so immovable not even a black hole can move him.
has luke ever shown that he can block somethin moving at mach speed ? I doubt it.

But WILL Neo be able to move at Mach speed? Will Luke allow it?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
But WILL Neo be able to move at Mach speed? Will Luke allow it?
how will luke stop ihm, has he ever used force stasis on something like a fighter ship or something?

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
how will luke stop ihm, has he ever used force stasis on something like a fighter ship or something?
yup.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
yup.

when?

It seems like somewhere in all of this, you all are overlooking something rather important.

However, before I get to that shouldn't the parameters be as such:
*both adversaries with 100% of their powers
*a lightsaber would absolutely destroy Neo (whoever hinted that he could survive a lightsaber attack, I mean c'mon)
*Neo should NOT be able to attack and destroy Luke the way he did Agent Smith in Matrix 1, because Luke is not a program

Having said all that, why would Neo even need to dodge a lightsaber? If he does not need to dodge bullets, then why the need to avoid a lightsaber? Both would kill Neo if he was hit in the right spot, but why would he need to avoid either? He doesn't. If Neo can nearly instantly rewrite the velocity of bullets to zero and pluck them out of the air, then why could he not rewrite the velocity of a lightsaber to zero?

One last point about the "less than 0 sec" Jedi reaction time someone else mentioned. That is not possible. To be able to see your opponent's move a second in advance is fine (and I concede that Luke would be able to see Neo's moves in advance); however, Luke would STILL have to react to these on-coming attacks (which would take some fraction of time no matter how small)...otherwise no Jedi/Sith would ever win a fight with one another.

no, a lightsaber would certainly hurt Neo, possibly kill him, thats where we stand.

and yet all neo nees is one strike to kill luke, and neo is the faster one, and knows much more fighting styles than luke

We keep coming back to this.....PRECOGNITION.....Luke knows what Neo is gonna do BEFORE Neo does it.

Excellent- so we're all in agreement on the lightsaber issue, in that it would absolutely destroy Neo just like it would anyone else. And we also agree that Luke has the "precog" advantage.

But still, why is any of this an issue? If Neo does not need to dodge bullets, then why would he need to dodge a lightsaber? Both would kill him, and yet it doesn't matter. Neo can rewrite the velocity of bullets to zero and snatch them out of thin air, so why can't he do the same for a lightsaber?

Luke could hold Neo in place with the force, then chop him to pieces at his leisure.

So isn't that the end of the debate? If no Luke supporters can give an indifferent observer a reason as to why Neo would need to dodge or worry about a lightsaber, then Neo wins.

Already I see that point has been ignored lol...

Hypothetically, say Luke decapitates Neo, what then? Is he dead or what? Or does his rolling head watch as his headless body keeps fighting?

Originally posted by lionlover2053
But still, why is any of this an issue? If Neo does not need to dodge bullets, then why would he need to dodge a lightsaber? Both would kill him, and yet it doesn't matter. Neo can rewrite the velocity of bullets to zero and snatch them out of thin air, so why can't he do the same for a lightsaber?

Why can't he do the same to a fist? Why does have to make an actual effort to dodge and block someone's punch, or a kick?

That's pretty much the answer to your question.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
Why can't he do the same to a fist? Why does have to make an actual effort to dodge and block someone's punch, or a kick?

That's pretty much the answer to your question.

these people have superhuman strength and a punch could blast him across a city, with weaker opponents he ahsnt needed t ododge the weapons though (he blocked a sword with his hand)

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Luke could hold Neo in place with the force, then chop him to pieces at his leisure.
neo could wretch the light saber out of his hand, or soot luke

IM pretty sure a bullet is harder to blast than a laser

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
We keep coming back to this.....PRECOGNITION.....Luke knows what Neo is gonna do BEFORE Neo does it.
except neo has the same type of precogntive abilities and he reacts much faster as well

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
except neo has the same type of precogntive abilities and he reacts much faster as well
I am gonna need proof of that. Link me somewhere that says Neo can precog like a Jedi.